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Another very recent research paper on behavior of immune enhancer hydrogen peroxide on plant virus.
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0076090
If you do try the cut the stem to the ground method, it may be worth while trying a H2O2 spray on the rest of the plant and the neighboring plants. If nothing else it should kill the mites, and possibly it may ward off a weak infection. This is just an educated "maybe", but until the scientists give us more to work with, this type of thinking is all we have.
Here is a link that might be useful: the above link

Lynn, may I suggest Poseidon? It's gorgeous. I got it this spring grafted on multiflora and it's just bloomed and bloomed...but it is at least 6 ft tall. I pulled down some canes and it is busting out the laterals....I may use it as a climber! It's a Kordes rose and has been very healthy. Here is a photo on HMF that looks like mine. Notice the buds?
I purchased Love Song on Dr. Huey...I realize now that I have mf root stock to compare that Huey is not good for my garden. Love Song is anemic. I will try it on mf though because it is a beautiful rose and I love my lavenders!
Poseidon's buds are deep hot pink and then burst into many petals similar to Love Song but more blue/lavender.
I have Purple Tiger own root. It's lousy own root here...
Susan
Here is a link that might be useful: Poseidon on HMF

I purchased the purple tiger today from S & W but could not determine via their site which root stock they use. Dr. Huey works well for my alkaline soil. I purchased 4 Marie Pavie on multi-flora and am guessing that I will have to really amend my soil to reduce the pH. I will have to do the same for Purple tiger if it is on multiflora.
Thank your for the suggestion. Poseidon is very pretty. It reminds me a bit of the way Blue Girl in person when it is in a pot and greenhouse. These roses usually turn gray here. I do not know if it is the heat, soil, or a combination of the two.

You might try calling or e-mailing Burling at Burlington roses to see whether she would root one for you. She can root just about anything and if she has a mother plant it's very possible she'll help you out. I know she rooted a bunch of Annie Laurie McDonnell climbing roses (I have one of them) for interested buyers and had a waiting list for this rose before too long. The same thing could happen with the very desirable Cl. Lady Hillingdon. Judging by the size of the one described by Rogue Valley Nursery, I have the feeling that they have the climbing one too.
Ingrid

I also found I didn't have the patience to convert my old slides. I meant well, but . . .
I used Olympus SLRs for years (film) and I am now using an Olympus E-500. It does a good job for me, but I don't know what I would next move on to.
For a "pocket" camera, I tried a little Nikon Cool-Pix, found it SORELY lacking, and took it back to Costco, whence it came. I replaced it with a Canon PowerShot A2500, which fills that niche nicely. At a push, I can get a decent rose image with it, and it's good for snapshots of the dogs, and events.
Jeri

A rather inexpensive item to improve photos, is one of the "cubes" (photo light tent like to do small product photos) I cut the bottom out of mine so I can set it down and over a vase(etc)
Taking photos early or late in the day will help and on a cloudy/overcast day.
You can also stand back and zoom in to blur the background. (if you have an optical zoom)
A $2 piece of white poster board can be propped up to reflect light back to open up shadows.
And there are a lot of modifiers for flashes that can help, but the best thing to do with a flash is buy a second and use them off the camera to add depth and highlights (Ratio in your cameras flash manual if you have that type of flash)

That IS lovely, bkutz! And Jeri's right, ignore what Amandahugg said about the patent police. That's nonsense. As a matter of fact, you should consider sending photos of the rose to Star Roses. There's a good possibility that THEY might want to purchase the rights to propagate and market this new variety from YOU.
Let's hope that the sport remains stable over time (ie, doesn't readily revert), and that it retains the disease resistance of its sport parent (my guess is that it will).
Congratulations on your find, Bkutz! Keep us posted, okay?

It's been my experience (unfortunate as it is) that the difference in spray drift from Herbicides and RRD can often be differentiated by the amount of initial damage exhibited. If one lone cane (or a small part thereof) is deformed I usually think RRD. If more then one cane seems to be affected I think of the possibility of Herbicide damage. The next test (although a bit risky) is easy. Cut back the offending cane (canes) and if new growth sprouts with symptomatic foliage it's RRD.....Interestingly enough, I took out an Austin rose this spring that exhibited RRD growth. Further confirmation of its RRD appeared 2 months later when a leftover piece of the root sprouted showing RRD symptoms on even the tiny new leaves. I will not replant in this spot for a couple of years just for this reason - unseen leftover virus infected roots........The plight of the elm tree in America I hope isn't indicative of where roses will be in 50 years. But if the mite can't be widely controlled (including in the wilds), it may be a sad ending to a glorious hobby........Maryl

maryl, not all herbicide damage is spray drift. Herbicide can also be absorbed by the roots.
Here is a link that might be useful: link to my rose rosette virus web page


I don't have experience with using Wilt Pruf for that purpose, but I can tell you that WP itself can burn rose foliage under some circumstances. Be sure plants are well hydrated, and apply in the cool of the morning. Don't apply to wilting transplants, but apply days in advance of transplanting.
By reducing transpiration, anti-transpirants cause leaves to "run hotter" than they would otherwise, because transpiration cools the leaf. But this is not to say your idea would never work. I really don't know.


I'm not as tempted by Wisconsin roses or any of the Canadian companies because they graft on rootstocks that wouldn't like it here in Florida. Truthfully though, I've even considered trying multiflora rootstock for rare varieties. Maybe I could build a tiny air conditioned greenhouse or put ice cubes on the roots......
I have a rose "problem." :)



Thanks for all the information. Hopefully I will get lucky w my Sugar Moon since one of the things that attracted me was that there were several blooms and a bunch of buds yet to open. And I loved the scent. Today I found a spot for it and will plant it this weekend. I planted my Liv Tyler in a nice, sunny location earlier today. I'm already excited for next spring!




Thanks for the link. A fun article. The book that is mentioned, "Elizabeth And Her German Garden", can be read for free at Project Gutenberg.
Here is a link that might be useful: Elizabeth And Her German Garden @ PG
I did want to read "Elizabeth and her Garden." I think reading it online would be easier than trying to find a copy. Thanks.