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Personally I've only dealt with Long ago roses and Riobay. Long ago roses of course is my Favorite. Although Riobay bay sells larger plants some own root some grafted. All plants from both have been healthy, both have answered all my questions very quickly and have made suggestions for plants that would do better in my zone as opposed to the ones I had placed a bid on.
The one other comp. I dealt w/ was the cause of a recent debacle. So I can't honestly pass judgement (yet).
Not sure if this helped
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Thank you for the information about using the minus sign to limit searches.

I agree about the patented roses, although the vendor might be reselling a patented rose he or she had bought elsewhere, which is perfectly legal.

I have not bought from Riobay, I will check their offerings next spring.

Awwww. Best dogs ever. Check out sunshades FB page.it is Darling.

I don't know why they make my tummy warm just to look at one, but they do.

Thanks for giving me the FB page for Sunshades.

Hugs and slurps,

Andrea and Rainbow Chaser

P.S. you have to guess who sent what.

Jax, the Cherrios thing is just a common saying...
Better than saying:
If you don't have anything nice or helpful to say then
you shouldn't say anything... :-)

Glad things worked out Alwayzbgrateful! :)

Please be kind.

Yes!

Lavaglut is a beautiful dark red, cold hardy, great repeat bloomer.

I think Drop Dead Red is a very good red floribunda, has been disease resistant for me on a uniform bush and repeats quickly. Tom Carruth seems to have some really good roses. Regan's Nursery said it is hardy to Zone 5 and I think it is readily available. Pictured here is its first flush.

so far, knock on wood, no wind here

The pictures are breathtaking!

OK, the end of the Rose searson is approaching...I'm new to active rose cultivation and would like to be reminded how to prepair for winter (I'm even open to chastisement for my previous neglect of my DonJuan's). I have 3 or 4 DonJuan's that are old & almost dormant due to my neglect (I will do better, I promise!)...the beauty of this DonJuan rose is hard to describe if you haven't seen it.... This week I planted a couple of new DonJuan's along with a Peace climber plus 2 Mr Lincoln's, added 4 ArticFlame's, 2 AlmostBlack and one PopeStPaul-II, plus 2-yellow no-name's... I'd like to know if 2 or 3 inches as mulch for protection on the new plantings will protect them 'till spring - I'm in mid-NC (Durham) ?

Michael, I agree that the burlap doesn't keep them warmer. What I think it does do is hold moisture in and protects them from winds that can dry the canes out. As you said, the only way to keep them warmer is to provide a heat source. But in fact you really don't necessarily want to keep them warmer. They need to go dormant and stay dormant. However, keeping them from becoming desiccated is beneficial.

Mike, 2 to 3 inches is a start, and not knowing much about Durham's climate may be enough, but more would be better. I don't winter protect everything in the ground any more but if there is something new or one that I know is tender I pile on the mulch using something to hold it up and on if necessary. I like to try and go at least 6 inches and have done as high as a foot on a rose that I knew was weak. I've used old, broken plastic flower pots with the bottoms cut off and milk jugs, bottoms off and side slit to get it around the rose. Mounded soil works well and stays in place. Experiment with what you have to see what works best. But don't winter protect too soon. You have to be patient and wait for the weather and the roses to tell you when it's the right time. Some years I have done it in October because it was very cold very early. Other years I had to wait into December before the roses finally went dormant. The point of winter protection isn't to keep them warm it's to keep them evenly cold and dormant all winter and early spring through all the ups and downs of the temperatures until it really is spring for good.

racin rose, your Lady Emma Hamilton rose is to die for. What gorgeous flowers! Can you tell me how old is your plant? Are those flowers from an established plant? Thanks, Karen

Maryl, your Rouge Royale is stunning. I've debated about this rose for years, and you've pretty much convinced me...I must have it. Just where to put it is the question.
Susan, that is an exquisite little bouquet of Teasing Georgia. Lovely. Diane

Thank you so much for your suggestions. I had considered roses with wine tones such as Munstead Wood. I noticed that a volunteer seedling of Brazilian verbain next to the limelights looked really good and that gave me that idea.

The all white roses is a great idea, one that has been stuck in my head now, thanks hoovb!! :-) I think a white rose with a "milky" tone to it might work well. I would think the "snow" white roses would look to bright white next to the more milky hydrangea blossoms.

I am not sure how pink tones would look planted next to the hedge. One of my first thoughts were some of the English roses that have pink and also yellowish tones like Jubilee Celebration... on the other hand, I walked past a flower show where they had deep red roses combined with lime-ish colored filler plants and it looked modern and fresh...

What are your thoughts on something like Lady of Shallott or a warm pink like Princess Alexandra of Kent in groups of several plants each on front that hedge?

I have PAK and I think the color would work well as long as the Princess didn't get too tall. Mine is a year old and is about 5 feet, but in your cooler climate, she might stay shorter. Her color is a bit variable, too--at least here. In the heat, there are more warm tones, and when it's color, she's more of a straight pink, but not a light one. What about the new Austin in a medium pink called Boscobel? (Hope I got that name right). That rose's look has got me enthused about Austin's again. Here's a pic of PAK with less of the yellow tones in her coloring. Diane

Kim,

I will be glad to be on the 'hunt' for you.

Have a lovely weekend,

me

Thank you. I hope yours is lovely, too. Kim

Looks lots like my brides dream, but she is 4-5 ft.

Thanks for reviving this thread. The blooms have a soft fragrance, I'd give the strength of the fragrance is a 3 out if 5. The bush I took the cutting from was approx 4'x4'. It had arching canes and appeared robust despite the BS and neglect. (I remember pruning it this past spring out of pity)

M

Thanks Kim. While my plant is young the blooms are close to two inches. The color definitely makes up for bloom size. Keep us updated Susan. Mine is going dormant for the year so I will have to live vicariously through you.

I've never noticed much difference between bloom size on young plants versus older plants, nor on budded versus own root, which is what made me nervous about Marina. There have been the occasional outliers, so hopefully Marina is one of them!

probably because I am an unloveable misanthrope who vastly prefers plants to people but here are some more reasons:
cheap, even free - gardening is, I believe, the most egalitarian hobby inasmuch as the poorest of us can save a few seeds and plant them in hope altho' yep, you can spend 400 sterling on ONE paeony........
The pleasure of nurture - I surely struggled as a mother, feeling bored and overwhelmed a lot of the time (although 35 years later, a bit more patience and experience has graced my efforts....but growing tiny seeds, pricking them out, potting them on, watching, watering, wondering - a rather lovely pastime.
The pleasure of creating beauty - colour has always stirred me - to the extent that a mere colour chart causes me to practically salivate - gardening is painting the world in drifts and swathes of brilliance.
Curiosity - as an inveterate meddler, I find I can do my frankenstein graftings, crossings, pruning, training, and general fiddling about in relatively guilt-free circumstances in that no plant has ever wailed, moaned, had a tantrum, sulked, stomped off or complained - they either stoically endure, thrive or provide me with compost - nothing ever lost.
I get to make a bit of money - selling, swapping, bartering.

Um, I know these are rather prosaic reasons and I am not immune to the numinous or the transcendant but I truly enjoy keeping my head bent to the soil, enclosed in a little world of my own construction....since the rest of the world often seems hostile, disappointing, politically inept and cruel. A sustained weeding session takes all those fears and anxieties away.

Thanks, Carol!

Jim 1961, "Its the middle of October and your admiring all the blooms and you wake up to this the next day... :-0" Lol, bro, been there. Hope NOT to have that happen this October...but you never know. ;-)

Campanula, "...since the rest of the world often seems hostile, disappointing, politically inept and cruel..." I totally get you on that. I flee any hint of that in a nanosecond. I just flat out refuse to go there! I do love people like Rick Steves who spread the gospel of peace, love, and understanding to EVERYONE wherever they travel. In places like Iran for example. And even here in Spokane, Washington if we are lucky. P.S., I love you, sweetheart, and I've noticed many other people here seem to adore you, too. :-)

"Europe's my beat. For four decades now, it's been my second home." Rick Steves

Johnny Cabot, "The COLORS warm my heart." They deeply warm my heart, too! I LOVE color sooo much. I took a stained glass art class once because I adore stained glass, but I cut myself one time too many so I eventually gave it up.

Mirenda Jean, you are such a soulful lady...your very being is your song. And I suppose that is the same way for the roses, too.

Susan4952, your bouquet is VERY beautiful. Soft and compelling. What are the roses in it, hon?

This post was edited by dove_song on Fri, Oct 4, 13 at 15:00

It's a seedling of 'Fourth of July'. It looks very promising.

Probably a climber. I have lots of Fourth of July self seedlings, and they almost always are climbers, just like mom. I haven't registered any of them, though, because I don't think any of them are as good of a rose as Fourth of July. If any of you want to try your hand at germinating rose seeds, Fourth of July is a good one to start with -- easy, peasy to get growing.