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Just keeping everyone updated - Vintage sent out the roses that are still left after the first rush and that's posted below. Among these, I see an additional recommendation for The Prince's Trust that I got from Vintage a few years ago, and it's a red climber that very enthusiastically wants to grow. It was probably the biggest band plant I've ever seen at nearly 4 feet long, and it put on another 5-6 feet in its first year. It's a very healthy happy climber in my zone 5.
Cynthia
Remaining list as of March 6:
Ch "Ferndale Red China" 1
ChCl Setina 1
E Jeannie Deans 1
Fl Centenaire de Lourdes 1
Fl Europeana 1
Fl Fire and Ice 14
Fl Fred Loads 1
Fl Holstein 1
Fl Impatient VID 1
Fl Jazz Fest VID 1 0
Fl Kirsten Poulsen 3
Fl Lili Marlène 1
Fl Lipstick 1
Fl Orange Garnet VID 2
Fl Playboy 1
Fl Showbiz VID 2
FlCl Heidelberg 9 1
HB "California Malton" 1
HM Heinrich Conrad Soth 1
HM Verdi 2
HP Dr. Masaryk 4*
HP François Arago 5*
HP Marguerite Guillard (Loubert) 8*
HP Mme. de Staël 15*
HP Paul's Single White Perpetual 3*
HP Rose de Bouffarik 2*
HP Silver Queen 1*
HP "Souvenir de Mme. Berthier" 5*
HT Blithe Spirit 1
HT Broadway 1
HT Chivalry 3
HT Die Welt 2
HT Ellen Willmott 1
HT Frances Ashton 1
HT Harry Wheatcroft 1
HT Kalahari 3
HT Love VID 1
HT Macho Man 1
HT Maria Callas VID 1
HT Movie Star 1
HT Peach Beauty VID 1
HT Slava 2
HT Tropicana VID 1
HTCl Amy Johnson 1
HTCl General MacArthur, Climbing 1
HTCl Queen Elizabeth, Climbing VID 8
HTCl Reine Olga de Wurtemburg 9
LCl Casa Blanca 2
LCl Coral Dawn 1
LCl Crimson Cascade 1
LCl Doubloons VID 1
LCl Dr. Covell's Carrotrooted Understock 2
LCl Eden 6
LCl Étendard 1 0
LCl Gold Rush VID 2
LCl Golden Threshold 3
LCl High Noon 1
LCl JACclam (aka America™) 1
LCl Joseph's Coat VI 1 1
LCl Lawrence Johnston 4
LCl Leverkusen 3
LCl Olive 5
LCl Pelé 4
LCl Rosendorf Schmitshausen 1
LCl Salita 8
LCl Sympathie 2
LCl Tempo VID 1
LCl The Prince's Trust 1
LCl White Cocade 2
LCl William Baffin 1 2
M "Joséphine de Beauharnais" 15*
Min Magic Carrousel VID 1
Min Oakington Ruby 1
N "Lingo Musk" 1
N Narrow Water 1
Pol Ave Maria 5*
Pol Mme. Taft 2 4*
Pol Petite Marcelle 24*
Pol Rösel Dach 16*
PolCl Rose de Montplaisir 4*
R America 3
R Baby Shower 4
R Chevy Chase 5
R Cooper's Burmese 4
R Dr. Huey VID 4
R Harry Maasz 1
R "Mystery Muse" 3
R Not Cherub 4
R Purity 7 1
R Ramona 3
R Roserie 2
R Wartburg 1
R Windermere 3
S Ferdy 10
S Hamburger Phoenix 7
S Illusion 1
S Romanze 1
S Rosy Cushion 4 3
S Salmon Wings 7*
S Sandrine David 2*
S Yellow Butterfly 3
S/AUS John Clare 6
S/Aus Red Coat 1
*Starred items are French Imports priced at $30 each
desertgarden561 - I didn't do much pruning this year because of our drought. The deer did a lot of pruning on the roses, but not me. Also, many of my roses are old teas, chinas, etc, which don't get pruned much anyway, except to take off dead stuff and keep them off the paths and the driveway. What I did do re pruning was in December, so when the rains came back at the beginning of Feb, I think the roses were ready to sprout, and did so.
Jackie
Jacqueline3,
I purchased my first Tea Roses this year and am looking forward to a less pruning in December:)
I really hope the Tea Roses perform well here. While they perform well in Phoenix gardens, which is a hotter place than here, it is colder here during the winter, but they should be just fine.
Lynn
I think Heirloom has Super Excelsa. That's a lax caned reblooming rambler, not exactly red but it would do. Crimson Showers would be nice but maybe hard to find. Have you heard of Perennial Blue? It has the same growth habit with mauve flowers. Rogue Valley has a number of these Wichurana types(now called R. Lucae).
I would go with the Romanticas here in So Ca if you don't want tall and leggy! The Austins I have put out octopus legs after their initial bloom and don't bloom that much. They hang their heads too. The Romantica's I have are Yves Piaget and Liv Tyler (used to be Comtesse de Provence). They stay much shorter and sturdier, are upright and last longer!
Drooping due to rain has been no greater problem for my Austin's than for any other type of rose in my garden.
Unless a number of posters start reporting that Boscobel (to use that example) has special problems handling the rain, I wouldn't worry about those broad generalizations implying that "all" Austins" suffer from certain problems.
Kate
I follow Paul Zimmerman on facebook and fine gardening.
Wirosarian was kind enough to refer to my blog above, but justkristy, if you visit it, I have a number of linked blogs on the right hand side at the bottom. For the most beautiful rose pictures, one of my favorites, Masha's, is linked below.
Here is a link that might be useful: A Rose Is A Rose Blogspot
Unfortunately, my Blue Bayou is totally black canes as I look at my gardenâ¦Boo Hoo! I might be looking for this rose again myself. It is lovely and I have my fingers crossed that it might make it. This winter has wrecked havoc in my garden. Maybe someone will know where this rose can be found. Good Luck. Lesley
Hoovb--is that your balcony? That is just gorgeous the way it cascades! I am pretty much sold based on your advice and what I've read on sombreuil. My siding is reddish brown so will check out your 2nd idea, as well as Jackie's. Great to have advice from people who have first-hand knowledge. Also,I will look in into pole pruner.
Yes that is Sombreuil on the front of my house. Right now it is still bare from winter pruning. that pic is from '10 or '11. Keep in mind the first 2 or 3 years Sombreuil does not repeat well. it needs to settle in and grow larger before repeat is regular.
Look around, do not be in a hurry, choose carefully. Right plant in the right place.
Jackie makes good point about making sure your planter connects to the ground without concrete in the way.
Hi, Greenhaven, welcome to Michigan and Garden Web! I'm in SE Michigan so I'm not familiar with nurseries on the west side of the state but I do know there are several rose societies on that side. There is one in Grand Rapids, Kalamazoo and the new Southwest Michigan Celebration of Roses. You can find contact information for them on the American Rose Society's web site.
The National Rose Society of Australia has a website with links to several local clubs.
I'll put a link below -- a local expert would know which varieties would do best in your microclimate in the Sidney area:
Here is a link that might be useful: National Rose Society of Australia
Thanks Petaloid, I've looked at their site. They list a number of roses that haven't been good for me,and don't list many that have been. But I will get in touch with someone in the Sydney area.
I would still be interested to know how others have fared with the roses I listed.
Trish.
I've replanted roses many times in the same spot where another rose has been and have never had a problem. It's much more of an issue in Europe, for some reason, but almost a non-issue here, especially if you add new bagged soil and new native soil. Your new roses will be fine.
Ingrid
The fresh soil was not used for my established roses so I do think it was the heat and the roses just couldn't deal with it, even the ones I have had for many years.
Does anyone have recommendations for a good moisture meter?
Thanks again to all for the advice. I will get a moisture meter and also check into drought resistant varieties. At least we got lots of rain Friday and Saturday. :-)
Avian, I don't know how much difference there will be between roses budded on a common root stock. Generally, I've found harder pithed varieties to be more more water stress tolerant than those with softer pith. Also, the harder the pith, harder the wood, the more sun scald resistant the rose. But, bud them all on the same root stock and they are probably going to be similarly "drought resistant". The softer wooded types will likely sunburn more easily, but the plants in general, should be about the same as far as "drought resistance". Kim
Using the following spray every two weeks from early spring to november will keep your roses looking fabulous. It's called Bayer Advanced Disease Control and it's considered the best by rose aficionados:)
Here is a link that might be useful: Bayer Disease Control
When purchasing from Vintage, IF the plant is VI from Davis, it has always been listed as "VI". Their big catalog will tell you what the original source of the rose was. Kim
Gardentiller, I don't know if they're still available, but Nipstress recently posted the list from Vintage's last chance sale which includes four, VID Dr. Huey. Take a look at the below link and move on it if you're still in need. Good luck! Kim
Here is a link that might be useful: Vintage One of a Kind Sale