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I found this rose a few days ago at a Big Lots store in Colorado for under $4. It says it is from Tyler Rose Nursery in Tyler, TX.

(I know this thread is a couple of years old, but thought I'd pass along the info.)

I just received a catalog from Burgess Seeds and they have a Cl. White American Beauty rose listed in there. They also have a whole collection of roses you can get that only have colors for names, Yellow Rose, Pink, Crimson, etc Who knows what these roses really are. It may be a white rose but what kind, climber or not, or what variety it is will all a guess.

I am also in Ontario and have grown 3 of the roses on your list. My own experiences are listed below:

Hot Cocoa- Beautiful and unique colour. Not very cane hardy and will die back to the snow line, or a few inches above the soil line in an average winter. Very good mildew resistance, but only average blackspot resistance. Removed from garden.

Julia Child- Heavy blooming rose with fast repeat. The blooms fade quickly in the heat to a light pale yellow. Unfortunately, it was a blackspot magnet in my garden and I removed it last spring. Since it BS'd so bad, it wasn't very hardy for me either and the plant stayed small as well. It is a very charming rose and perhaps I had a dud of a plant.

Molineaux- One of the best yellow roses I have grown. It is not cane hardy though and will die back close to the ground in most winters, but it does have excellent vigour and will quickly regrow and bloom. One of the fastest and heaviest repeat blooming roses in my garden as well. Bloom colour is also very changeable pending location and temperatures. Blackspot resistance here is above average, but it will get some late season BS. Mildew resistance is also excellent.

I have or have had all of them except Mollineux.

Hot Cocoa has been in my garden since it came out in 2002 and it winters fine. ugly plant, black spotty but it winters. I keep it because it was one Mom bought and I can't part with it. Besides, I have this thing about roses that can hold up against our winters. If they can survive them who am I to kill them?

Julia Child, LOVE IT! Had her since 2010 and she has wintered green to the tips every year. Not sure about this year though...

Falling IN Love is THE thorniest rose on earth but lovely blooms and has wintered very well in the pot ghetto for 2 years.

Disneyland Rose was really pretty but, alas, did not winter it's first year.

Dream Come True is a very good survivor since 2008. Has been both potted and in the ground and grows like a horse. Really nice rose.

Touch of Class wasn't a good winterer. I bought it twice and both times it did not survive it's first winter.

All of mine are grafted, probably on Dr. Huey, and the grafts are not buried but are right at soil level whether in a pot or in the ground. I do always protect the potted ones. The ones in the ground got some protection some years but recent years have not gotten any protection at all. I'm getting very curious about how all my roses are going to do this arctic winter!?

Will do Cynthia. I was hoping I could find it at Pickering Roses but no luck. Will keep looking.

Susanne

Pickering used to carry it, but they cut back their selection of roses massively this year. They used to carry almost all of the Renaissance series and now they don't. Noticed also that they no longer carry any of the newer Kordes roses such as the Fairytale, Vigorosa or Climbing series either. Sad.

The new rose beds are next to the lawn where tables are set up for weddings and other events. There are new Austin roses in front of the Victorian house where people take pictures. The arboretum is having new lighting installed all over the gardens and it looks labor intensive. All of this should make it nicer for weddings. The rocks are odd. I would have gone with organic mulch or some low groundcover. I don't think it's because of rabbits because some roses have poultry netting cages for that.

I always keep a few rocks handy for the deer.

I heard of making your own traps but haven't tried it. You take blue plastic cups, coat the inside with STP automotive stuff, and invert the cup on a stake in your garden. I don't know why blue is recommended for the cup color, when thrips seem drawn to light colored roses. It might be worth experimenting with other substances to trap thrips such as perfumed hand cream or vaseline . Might be worth trying it with any old container also, or a pastel one. I would not do that where kids or animals might eat the stuff.
I heard of a fruit fly trap for indoors, wherein you use a container with lid and punch a small hole in it. Put wine or vinegar inside. The flies get in but drown and/or can't readily get out. That might also work with other bugs if you knew what attracted them. I think some people put a small funnel or make a funnel to insert into the hole on the lidded trap.

Erasmus -If you think about it, all those colored plastic cups are white on the inside. "When thrips seem drawn to light colored roses" actually thrips like anything light colored.
Here my list Daffodils, Iris, plum tree blooms, pear blooms, privets and of course light colored roses.
I can deal with them on the above except for the roses which they just destroy the blooms.

Thanks for all the comments. I'm leaning towards the copper idea. Anyone have some recommendations of products that are readily available and won't cost me an arm and a leg?

Since only 2 of your 30 roses are showing spots on their old leaves, seems easier and cost-free to just remove & trash those leaves. A pair of sewing snips or manicure scissors works well if you don't have flower shears. Usually hold a small paper bag to catch the snipped leaves as they fall. For leaves harder to reach, I use long metal kitchen/barbecue tongs to avoid any thorns. Wash those afterwards. Common practice to clean up & remove any fallen rose leaves on the ground & trash them, too. Two bushes done this way at a leisurely pace might take 20 minutes on bushes of average size

Environmentally friendly & free.

This post was edited by vasue on Fri, Feb 28, 14 at 10:16

Thank you soo much! SaraAnn what a beauty that Tiffany is. Thanks for sharing that picture. I have several Belinda's Dreams and she is one of Belinda's parents. To be honest one of the only reasons I ordered her. Ingrid, Nastarana and Roseseek. I also thank you for your advice. I will put Tiffany in the harsher sun and La France in the evening shade.

Shopshops - Thank you. I would agree about Belinda's Dream. I have three and it is such a good rose. Glad you started this thread, the info about La France has been helpful also.

I think Dr. Huey is the answer. If so, there is another alternative. You can leave it where it is but cut the canes back and then graft a new rose (or even more than one) on to the cane. You'll get a new rose on an established powerful root system. If you want to try it I'm sure some of the people here will tell you how.

Look up Paul Zimmerman on you tube. He has a great video on trimming back climbing roses. If it is doctor Huey like some suspect either choose the enjoy the once bloomer or rip it out and start over IMO .

Thanks everyone. I guess I didn't prune it enough the first couple years-I just cut off the dead flowers and pruned down a few inches. I would never cut the entire top off, but I guess I will have to try and prune a few of the brances hard and see what happens. The rose tree is really hardy. I'm in the NW suburbs of Chicago and do nothing to it except throw some fertilizer down. It's been beautiful and blooms all summer.

REGARDLESS of where the graft is, and thank you SO much for the correction, i would prune as a regular rose at the top where you want to encourage new growth. If you have shoots off of the trunk, cut them down all the way to keep the standatrd form. Now i want one.

Almost all my roses are pink, with a few white and purple/red. I love old fashioned roses and most of the ones we can grow, come in these colors.

Pink roses are so pretty and they look great with lots of lavenders, purples, white, blues, and even clear red. I have some Jacob Kline bee balm, daisies and lavender with some pink roses and they are beautiful together :)

I agree with the others. Do a rose combination that suits your tastes. I am definitely into pinks. At least 40 of the many I grow are pinks. I have an all pink bed with Belinda's Dream,Madame Lombard and the magenta pink Pioneer rose Thomas Affleck.

Another pink bed has Belinda's Dream, Sharifa Asma and soon La France. Dusty miller is my accent in Summer and White Mums in Spring and Fall. Pink is gorgeous if you love it. Lots of us ladies certainly do. Never too much.....

Have you seen my post on the gauntlet I got? http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0222271330801.html?8

I have a great pair from The Antique Rose Emporium. They used to be $25 and they are great protection. No more snags and cuts when pruning. I think they are real leather.

This New Zealand nursery has 2 pictures down the page which help. If they are too small hold down the Ctrl key while you tap the + key.

Here is a link that might be useful: pruning pics

I tend to trim my roses in a cone shape, so they fan out at the top. Definitely lop off growth that grows to the inside of the bush and those that cross over other canes. It opens up the inside of the bush and helps the rose grow up and out.

Josh

Your Over the Moon is stellar. Mine is poor here. It barely hangs on. I don't think it likes this area. Thanks for the eye candy.

Thanks everyone!
Bustopher, I'm sorry to hear your OTM isn't doing well. Mine is grafted on Dr. Huey, but climate could make the difference, as well.
Jockewing, I'm sending you a separate email.

The air waves between our brains must have been burning up. 'Intrigue' holds color well here also. And I love how the buds take a week to open. Well ......., I was going to suggest 'Granada' (similar colors to 'Chicago Peace' which I love) for that spot. Never mind.

I bought 'Don Juan' a week ago! I'll move the pot beside 'Intrigue' for a picture if the bloom coincides.

I have seen 'Ebb Tide' in the spring. I think it may combine well with 'Honey Dijon'. I know it looks good with 'Sharifa Asma'. Its a rather deader color than pics I'd seen at that time. After I read how it fades badly in heat decided not to use with 'Heritage'. Hoping 'Don Juan' may work.

Irisgal

I love Don Juan. It is a deep true red in my garden and a blooming machine!! I understand your fear with with Ebb Tide as I cancelled an order then planted Twilight Zone instead.

I did not think of Heritage to be placed near Don Juan. I owned a plant years ago and it did not fair well; could have been where I planted it. It is definitely worth considering. It is reported to handle summer heat okay.

Lynn