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I am neutral in this discussion (I like both grafted and own root). I am not trying to be right in this discussion just offering an opinion. My comments are all based on my personal experience only. The plants that (seem to be) fuller (for me) own root are icebergs (pink and white), Frederic Mistral and Livin' Easy. I also have own root plants that I am comparing to grafted plants at the South Coast Botanical Gardens.
My apologies to anyone upset by my comments. They are my personal opinions based on my own personal observation and I am not stating them as facts.
This is an interesting discussion, thanks for sharing your experiences
Lee
That's interesting about your Frederic Mistral, Lee, because I have an enormous, fat, Fred that's grafted on Huey. It's so wide and thick we can't get by on the grass path around it, and have to stomp through a flower bed to avoid smashing into Fred. I think this rose would be thick if it were grafted on petunia roots! Ar least around here. Diane
Thank you so much Jackie! It was you who first suggested a white sport of MCT. I am so happy now, after more than 5 years I could finally name this old HT!.
Moreover, I found another plant of AD just one block away from that old house and I am planning to get some cuttings in a few months. Once I make some plants on its own roots I can send you some cuttings, if you are interested.
Greetings from BA! :)
Mariano
That would be great, except that I do not think it is legal to import plant material without all sorts of licenses, and quaranteens, etc. Also the State of California has even more stringent rules than the US does (to protect the agricultural crops).
Between my neighbor and I, we have 5 plants of MCT which were rooted from a 70-80 year old plant in her garden, so we will just have to keep an eye on all of them, and hope that one of them throws off this sport. Not very likely, but a fun thing to watch for.
Jackie
I have the peach Drift rose and love it. I planted mine mid July I think it was or early August and its been full of blooms ever since. Its also doubled in size since I've planted it. I bought a red drift a few weeks ago and its not in as sunny a spot as the peach so its not looking as good as the peach. The blooms are much smaller on the red than the peach. I mean super tiny but cute. Since I planted the red later than the peach I didn't expect the red to be the same size as the peach. They are both much bigger than they were when I planted them. So far no sign of any disease. No bug damage and no BS. My regular roses are all dealing with BS problems and I do have to spray them. I've never sprayed my drift roses nor have I used any fertilizers and they look a lot healthier than any other rose in my garden.
Next year I plan on buying a few more Drift roses in different colors. I really like the one called popcorn drift. Its white with some yellow and does look like a partially popped kernel of corn.
Thank you for thinking about my problem, Kate; that is so nice! For me,the top version (the one in the midst of the text of your post) of the link did work; the lower one at the bottom ("here is a link that might be useful") did not work... bart
Hi Bart--have you notified technical help (Tamora) that you are having trouble with the links in the box under the message box? Be as specific as you can so they have some idea what they are looking for. Tamora usually answers fairly quickly and politely to at least let you know what is wrong or that they are working on it.
Good luck.
Kate
Thanks everyone for chiming in. I will wait until spring and plant my new roses then. Official reason is that it's safer for the roses, the real reason is that I am not nearly at a point where I can plant them... it's called procrastination...lol
Next spring...:-)
Thanks again folks!!
Many of my plantings are of cuttings. When I expect frost, they are covered with 2 L pop bottles. In late winter, the bottle caps are removed during the day. Some years, I keep the cuttings in pots, also with pop bottles over them, and overwinter them under oak leaves along the foundation of my house to, as Mad Gallica says, plant roses with larger root systems. Both fall planting of the little ones, and keeping them in pots over winter, seems to work equally well. Yellow roses are the trickiest to keep alive.
Steve
This guy has an interesting approach...lol
Here is a link that might be useful: Getting rid of fungus gnats
Anything can be grown in a pot. The pot just has to be the right size, and in the case of zone 5, winter protection is needed. The usual recommendation for roses is a pot at least 20" in diameter for a non-baby rose. If it proves to needs more space than 20", at that point you get a bigger pot.
I revived this because I was just outside cutting a gorgeous bloom from Voodoo to bring in the house, and thinking about how much I appreciate that rose...
It has a very leafy-shrubby habit for a HT, and is a bloom machine, at least for me. It gets a little PM but no BS/cercospora/anything else, however I'm 20 minutes from the water so roses have to be genetic freaks to NOT get PM here.
It has a great fragrance and vase life too...if you haven't thought of it, I'd highly recommend it.
I adore my Honeysweet. Most unusual color, no blackspot for me, blooms lots. Its a Buck rose and tough. One of my favorite apricots is the Austin Carding Mill. I understand Chamblees will be carrying that soon own root - I plan to get several. I adore Fragrant Apricot [Roses Unlimited]. I had Belle Epoque a while back but wasn't that crazy about the color. When it died, I wasn't interested in replacing it, but that was just my opinion - you might love it. I adore apricots and love the pure, clear color such as Carding Mill, Tamora, Just Joey. If I ever ran across a good plant of Just Joey I would get it - have seen photos of huge blooms, but understand the bush is gangly. The blooms would make up for it........
Yes, I would describe it as apple green. None of mine are terribly thick yet, but new growth is very flexible. Thanks for the advice regarding the water Kim. Michael I will grab a leaf or two in the morning and post them, thanks. Jackie that is encouraging. I shouldn't have to wait long. Roses do much better here in the winter, so when it cools down it may bloom in it's 5th year.
I overwinter many in the garage. I believe the rule is 3 nights of 32 in a row before they are brought in. Usually after thanksgiving in my zone.I have a garden trolley so I can bring them in and out in early winter and spring. I keep them off of the cement but I believe there is no real reason for this via MichaelG. I keep them in a corner away from the windows, bit there is still diffused light. I also water once a month. If they begin to sprout too early it is the soft green growth, and I pinch it off before the official outdoor growing season begins. You should also be aware of aphids and such in the spring and treat accordingly. The most important thing about dormancy for any rose is making sure it is as healthy as possible before it goes to sleep....and prayer...lol. I try to mimic the weather for dormancy minus the gruesome temps and gale force winds.
This post was edited by susan4952 on Thu, Sep 26, 13 at 22:54
Your welcome and thank you for the update on things are going for you. We'd love to see some pictures too!
come back soon. We love to hear about the success as well.