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Thank you SO much, Henry!
I used to have this miniflora from Home Depot that was labeled simply as "Rosal Forever" (Forever Rose Bush), it was yellow with orange-red edges, but I couldn't find an ID anywhere. The blooms were incredible, with darker, saturated maroon streaks on the undersides; the plant, sadly, was a mess. In the same series, there was a mauve with a lovely fragrance, and not very full. I didn't get it in that chance but I wanted it, alas, couldn't find it either.
Going through the website out of curiosity I stumbled with it.
http://roses-forever.dk/brands/roses-forever/assortment/
Here is the orange one, and the mauve. Zurich looks beautiful too. At least now I know their names :)
Now onto the collection you posted about, they look quite pretty! You can see them all here. Sweet Family, Sweet Baby, and Sweet Love Story have my attention. I hope they're better plants than what I now know is "Val di Sole"
'Lady Emma' is a hearty 6'x5' here. Petite Austin style, though not an Austin, 'Golden Buddha' is quite nice. 2x2. Tough to think of Austins that stay small. They mostly don't in California. Sharifa Asma is on the smaller side, but it's pink/white blend. 'Jubilee Celebration' is small-ish, 3-4'x3-4'. Not really a heat lover, so that might work for 15.
The thing you also need to consider in 15 besides mildew is: are the flowers going to open properly in the damp climate? Lots of petals, opening gets dicey in the dampness.
Hi Jim,
PP does well in my fall blooming well into November in Oregon - actually being one of my latest bloomers. I think it is a rather compact plant and I think Kordes chose not to introduce it in Germany because of its small stature in a cooler climate. I am hearing some good results for the rose in USDA Zones 5 & 6 so I think it will be fine just perhaps a more compact plant.
Wow! I have been looking for this rose!! Anyone know where to buy Davids "Vampire" rose? I love his darker roses! http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.66923&tab=36
The question of do leaf cutter bees sting has been answered. Until today there would be 8-10 swarming around while I was out in and among the roses. This morning there were about 50 flying around and when I started watering they started getting a little anxious. Before I knew it one flew into my arm and I felt a sting. Yep, started whelping up and I started having a reaction. Out came the Epi Pen followed by prescription steroid. Grandson came over this afternoon and found where they had built three nests so he dug them out and took them down. Hopefully without their nests they will move on. Not sure what I'll do if they don't.
I'll have to see if I can get them out of the trash tomorrow for a picture. We have a teak patio table and teak chairs that are small slats laid in a board on board pattern. The had layered tubes attached to the small slats. They kind of looked like mini cigars. In one place there were about 8 attached side to side in the cavity between boards, then in another about 15 while the third only had 3 together. He had to look real hard to find them because we weren't looking for something that looked like that.
They can hang out and build nests and pollinate all they want I just can't have them nesting on and around the patio table or chairs. After some research we may have to look at building them some nesting locations and hang them from the eaves of the house.
If you don’t really need a trellis I feel that you will get more bang for your bucks if you keep the rose horizontal. That is, 3 or 4 feet above ground then horizontal. The canes become very stiff and I’ve found them hard to move around once they get some age on them. Zeffy’s on the side of our deck have reached heights of 14 feet with tons of growth. Those temporary options look a little weak but may do the job for a year or two.
To anchor a trellis down so the wind doesn’t tip it over I used pressure treated 4x6s laid horizontal in the ground — just letting the top show on some, others I buried the posts about 4 or 6 inches deep.) On the buried posts I made sure they were at least a few feet on either side of the trellis. Envision the letter H with the trellis being the cross bar.
That’s my 2 cents….
From the article:
"However, previous observations have shown that application of milk has variable disease control efficacy and PM can quickly develop resistance (Wurms & Ah Chee 2006), most likely because milk is a mixture of different fats, proteins and carbohydrates, and the PM can utilise some of these ingredients for its own growth. In contrast, AMF, which is derived from milk, contains only the antifungal fat component and no milk sugars or proteins."
--Probably we don't have access to AMF (anhydrous milk fat), but emulsified soybean oil at approximately 1 TB/qt. performed as well as AMF. I have sprayed salad oil with a squirt of dish soap in tepid water. Shake well.
Self watering planter is online and operational,if its successfull I will proceed with the asprin and rose cutting experiment. After some trial and error I got the growing medium disign right and its performing as it should.gypsom prooved successful in substituting hydroton and shreaded egg carton added wicking action without impacting drainage.this seems a good system to root a cutting with the dirt method,where rooting compound is applied and cutting is placed in dirt to root.will update as it progresses
The post is a bit misleading -- saying "new evidence shows..." because another article said so, but the evidence isn't provided there. In effect, it's a rephrasing of "I heard that..." It would be nice to see something more substantiated. For now, I'm sticking with removing the entire plant if I see any RRD symptoms.
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~Christopher
Last fall, at the national rose convention in Tyler, I attended a round table discussion on RRD. Several university scientists discussed current research in removing afflicted canes, marking the rose, then watching to see if the disease presented in other parts of the rose. One researcher asked for attendees to send him canes with RRD and canes from the same rose that were not showing RRD, or canes from roses that appeared to have survived the disease. I'll have to dig out my notes, but I'll bet he is the person behind the reference "new evidence".
I have been using this method to fight RRD for 3 years now. IF I catch the RRD early, meaning it is only visible on one cane, then I can absolutely stop the progress of disease in that rose. I think this technique failed in the Tulsa Rose Garden because so much of the work is done by volunteers, and to catch RRD early, one has to be extremely vigilant, and really know what to look for in early signs. Between 2008-2012, I dug out 35 infected roses in my garden. Since 2012, I've only had 2 that I had to remove--out of over 350 roses! The disease is rampant in this area, and multiflora rose grows wild nearby. I suspect a few canes I've removed in the past year were just roundup damaged canes, but I'm not taking any chances.
Henry, once you see a published paper on removing afflicted canes, please let us know! I would like to present the official findings to our local rose society. Fewer and fewer people are growing roses because of this problem, and because of the continued perception that roses have to have chemical treatments to stay pretty. I grow organically, and I invite groups to my garden, but for most people, it's easier to buy crepe myrtles, hibiscus, and salvia for summer color. Commercial plantings that used to have long rows of roses now have shrubby cinquefoil!
