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roseseek(9)

Cliff was alive, well and kicking two weeks ago, the last we were in contact. Kim

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 10:31PM
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Thanks, Kim! :-)

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 11:07PM
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ND1964(6a)

I live in NJ and have two plants of this rose. I have to spray for BS, other than that no issues if the deer will let it thrive. Love this rose, but lately I noticed that the flowers change colors after blooming and don't look as good as they used to look. But not spraying for disease control is not an option to me.
Enjay

    Bookmark     August 19, 2013 at 8:16AM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

hey ya Susan wanted to see how your DCT is doing now. I being wanting it all year and finally I broke down and bought it, although very late in the season. I absolutely love its blooms.

SCG

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 9:03PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Ok, I'm getting mixed up as I do a little research on this bug. Experts out there, is this bug pictured a spined soldier bug (good guy) or a stink bug (sort of bad guy) of some kind? They did no damage and were gone the next day. But they definitely looked like they were waiting for some prey to happen by. Thanks for any help solving my little garden mystery. Diane

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 12:03AM
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catsrose(VA 6)

Like the others here in the east, I've been inundated with stink bugs but have seen no damage from them on my roses. They are a nuisance, and they do stink when you squish or vacuum them or drop them in garbage disposal. People with perfectly clean and tidy houses find them much more offensive than those of us with mud on our shoes and pet hair on the couch.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 8:08PM
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zjw727(Coastal Oregon Zone 8b)

I LOVE Buff Beauty. The scent, the color, the health...Fabulous rose.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 7:18PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

    Bookmark     September 18, 2013 at 10:15AM
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curdle(9b, Australia)

Hi Busybee - I know its a bit late to chime in, but I hadn't noticed the thread before this.
I'm a beginner rose grower, and in Melbourne too. I wouldn't be worried about your roses not blooming this early. If you bought yours in July, i am assuming they were bareroots? that is, pretty much just sticks, and not many leaves? They will need some time to grow and develop roots, then to leaf out a bit before flowering. I bought quite a few myself, and I am only just getting a few buds now.
You could take a look at the Victorian Rose society website

http://www.rosesocietyvic.org.au/

they have a list of roses they recommend (including floribundas), and a month by month calendar of what you should do to look after them. Although so far I have been doing without all the spraying they advise....

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 10:42AM
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KarenPA_6b

I don't know how blushing knockout will perform in australia but for midatlantic America, it does fantastic. I have two bushes and they grow very well for me. Big flush in the spring, big flush in fall, and flowers here and there during the summer despite the soil being poor and dry and even with no application of fertilizers. All I do to them is prune them to about 1/3 of the bush in early spring.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 6:17PM
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luxrosa

'Kathleen Mills' stylish pink with a more saturated pink reverse, the petals have a bit of a twirl to them so the reverse shows.
'Simplex' a white Moore Mini-wich hybrid, the only thing I don't like is its' ultra upright growth habit, but the tiny white blooms are precious wonders.
'Irish Fireflame'
and another vote for 'Cecil' because 'Mermaid' is too huge.
best wishes finding your perfect rose with eyelash filiments.
Lux

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 12:53AM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Camps, I guess I went a bit "single crazy" with bands this spring and summer. I have Mrs. Oakley Fisher and I love her! I ordered Ellen Wilmott and she has just struggled pitifully. I really think she is gorgeous though!
All of the singles you and Lux suggested are on my list.
I have clipped all these posts and will use them as I establish my singles collection.
Thanks!
Susan

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 2:54PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Thanks Beth! I'm going for mini/minifloras!

For those not familiar with Wiconsin Roses,Steve Singer (great guy) sells newly budded plants on R. multiflora rootstock. He sends detailed instructions on how to handle the plants, there is a bit of work to be done, but not difficult. You get to see how a plant goes from just budded to mature in 2 - 3 years. Great company, mostly HTs and minis, but a couple of unique floribundas.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 8:38AM
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jaxondel

Beth -- Here's a bit of unsolicited advice re. 'Remembering Michael': If you generally plant your HTs in the garden, plan to grow this one in a container for a full season or two, and coddle it a bit with extra TLC. The mauve blooms are well-formed and nicely fragrant, but very few and far between. I'm hoping that it simply takes a while to hit its stride. My single plant is in its 3rd season.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 2:23PM
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Brooks23(Kentucky zone 6)

michaelg , Yes this is just on one branch.I have been checking my roses every day but almost missed this because it was at the bottom of the rose bush. The rest of the plant looks good. :-(
Brooks23

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 12:52PM
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henry_kuska

Herbicide damage can come from the soil. It does not have to come from spraying.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 2:02PM
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Anyone grow mirage?Will i buy or no?
Posted by Busybee010 September 20, 2013
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curdle(9b, Australia)

I put a post up in your earlier thread; not sure if you saw it or not.

Hi Busybee - I know its a bit late to chime in, but I hadn't noticed the thread before this.
I'm a beginner rose grower, and in Melbourne too. I wouldn't be worried about your roses not blooming this early. If you bought yours in July, i am assuming they were bareroots? that is, pretty much just sticks, and not many leaves? They will need some time to grow and develop roots, then to leaf out a bit before flowering. I bought quite a few myself, and I am only just getting a few buds now.
You could take a look at the Victorian Rose society website
http://www.rosesocietyvic.org.au/

they have a list of roses they recommend (including floribundas), and a month by month calendar of what you should do to look after them. Although so far I have been doing without all the spraying they advise....

As to Mirage, I dont grow it, yet..I was looking at it to buy myself, but there were other roses i wanted more..as far as I can see its pretty new, was only introduced last year. its a Kordes rose, they have a reputation for being pretty healthy.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 11:18AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

If these are winter-tender roses that will be pruned severely in spring, that would get rid of the mildew on those plants. If they are hardy roses, they will carry mildew over the winter in latent growth buds on the canes to quickly infect new growth in spring, weather permitting. On hardy roses I would control the mildew now. A systemic fungicide would be most effective in preventing carryover, but various "organic" fixes will knock the visible mildew back and prevent the spread of fall mildew.

    Bookmark     September 20, 2013 at 11:01AM
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seil zone 6b MI

My Appleblossom Flower Carpet rose is very disease resistant.

    Bookmark     September 19, 2013 at 6:06PM
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The buffet line is openagain.
Posted by deervssteve(9) September 17, 2013
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arkroselady(7b)

I tried Deer Scram around my peaches and nectarines. Absolute waste of money there. I use electric fences around the roses and have had no problems with deer when I keep them on regularly. In years past when they were not on regularly I had some problems with them getting in somehow. I think they have to be trained from early spring.

    Bookmark     September 19, 2013 at 8:14AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Oh phooey. That Deer Scram is sooo expensive ($30 for six pounds). I'd rather buy roses. Where we're situated, I don't think an electric fence would work or be allowed. We're out in the hills, but I have close neighbors just on the sides of us. The backyard is wide open to an undeveloped draw where the deer enter the yard. In front, we're open to undeveloped hills, but deer don't use this entrance as much. Diane

    Bookmark     September 19, 2013 at 3:02PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I suspect the 19th c grower saw all repeating roses as "gross feeders" compared to once-bloomers and perennials. As Kim suggested, yours probably don't have requirements different from other fairly vigorous repeating roses.

    Bookmark     September 19, 2013 at 1:24PM
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racin_rose

Thanks everyone for the help, I appreciate it. I guess I'll just have to let Docteur Jamain go and move on with my life...hehe

Thanks again!

    Bookmark     September 19, 2013 at 2:18PM
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Maude80

Jaxondel, my propagating method is pretty standard and similar to what you often read here. I will take a stem, cut off the flower, and leave two sets of leaves on the stem. Then I make several vertical slits through the lower part of the stem with a razor blade. I have found that stabbing completely through the stem gives the best results.

I then dip the stems in powdered rooting hormone and then place them in soil that I have already poked holes in (so that the rooting hormone doesn't rub off). I seal this in a clear plastic bag and wait a few weeks.

I can usually tell if they are going to survive after about ten days by looking at the leaves. The ones that aren't going to make it usually drop their leaves after they turn yellow. The ones that do make it retain their original ones. I take them out of the bag after they have developed roots (I always plant them in clear cups so I can determine this)...

As far as finding out the name, for some reason Costco won't reveal the exact source of their roses. Also, there are so many different ones that look like the ones I grow that it would be hard to describe it to a florist anyway:)

Maude

    Bookmark     September 17, 2013 at 3:11PM
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rosybunny

Dear Pat, Thank you so much for your photos, I particularly LOVE the last one, that's exactly the kind of blooms I'm looking for, it makes my spine itch just looking at them :-p

As it happens, today I just started my first rose propagation experiment, Maude's notes made me realize the mistakes I made: a. I didn't cut through the stems, merely scraping off the surface layer and making shallow slits as I thought what matters is the green layer gets exposed; b. I used a liquid hormone, and after soaking the stems, I put them in a vase with water in it, which probably means the hormone got washed off before the next step....oh well, didn't have high hopes for it anyways, just for curiosity's sake.

I've turned onto the Renaissance series at the moment...was checking them out on Hortico's site just now. Are all the Renaissance varieties good cutters like you described, Campanula?? (I know Clair is a good cutter, I've read that sophia and julia are also good, HMF doesn't say Bonita is good for cutting, but again I no longer completely trust HMF on this topic)

    Bookmark     September 19, 2013 at 1:16AM
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andreark

Thanks Michael and Kippy.

andrea

    Bookmark     September 18, 2013 at 2:16PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I think size and age of the plant will solve a lot of your problems. Golden Celebration was very floppy the first couple of years for me, and now, though it sends out candelabra this time of year, does not flop at all. On the other hand, Young Lycidas, a year old, is a flopmeister, determined to bloom on the ends of its long thin canes. I have it tied up inside a circle of stakes, and it still lost some cane in the last windstorm. YL doesn't worry me because I've seen this happen a lot, and there has always been improvement with the flopsters. The shrubs that bother me most are like Evelyn with stiff, brittle canes that snap off at the base--causing loss of lots of basals, in spite of all the tying in the world. Princess Alexandra of Kent, also only a year old, is vastly improved in just a year. It's still putting out lots of candelabra, but they are thicker and more upright already. Diane

    Bookmark     September 18, 2013 at 3:11PM
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