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Thank you Michaelg , For the record do you plant roses so that the graft line is below, at, or above the soil line?

Below. I assumed people would know not to cut the graft off.

omg. There are no words for that haunting vampire bloom! How exquisite and unusual! Thanks for sharing, what a creative and talented hybridizer.

Wow! I have been looking for this rose!! Anyone know where to buy Davids "Vampire" rose? I love his darker roses! http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.66923&tab=36

The question of do leaf cutter bees sting has been answered. Until today there would be 8-10 swarming around while I was out in and among the roses. This morning there were about 50 flying around and when I started watering they started getting a little anxious. Before I knew it one flew into my arm and I felt a sting. Yep, started whelping up and I started having a reaction. Out came the Epi Pen followed by prescription steroid. Grandson came over this afternoon and found where they had built three nests so he dug them out and took them down. Hopefully without their nests they will move on. Not sure what I'll do if they don't.

I'll have to see if I can get them out of the trash tomorrow for a picture. We have a teak patio table and teak chairs that are small slats laid in a board on board pattern. The had layered tubes attached to the small slats. They kind of looked like mini cigars. In one place there were about 8 attached side to side in the cavity between boards, then in another about 15 while the third only had 3 together. He had to look real hard to find them because we weren't looking for something that looked like that.

They can hang out and build nests and pollinate all they want I just can't have them nesting on and around the patio table or chairs. After some research we may have to look at building them some nesting locations and hang them from the eaves of the house.

Sorry about that, thanks for pointing it out to me! I thought my zone showed up next to my name (for some reason). I'm in zone 5a. The rose is near the house, just under 2 feet from the wall, which is vinyl siding. The bed faces due south.

If you don’t really need a trellis I feel that you will get more bang for your bucks if you keep the rose horizontal. That is, 3 or 4 feet above ground then horizontal. The canes become very stiff and I’ve found them hard to move around once they get some age on them. Zeffy’s on the side of our deck have reached heights of 14 feet with tons of growth. Those temporary options look a little weak but may do the job for a year or two.

To anchor a trellis down so the wind doesn’t tip it over I used pressure treated 4x6s laid horizontal in the ground — just letting the top show on some, others I buried the posts about 4 or 6 inches deep.) On the buried posts I made sure they were at least a few feet on either side of the trellis. Envision the letter H with the trellis being the cross bar.

That’s my 2 cents….

Have been on in a bit,been buisy designing a vertical garden with self watering planters.working out the kinks.still on top of this asprin mystery,its just in the back seat for a sec

Self watering planter is online and operational,if its successfull I will proceed with the asprin and rose cutting experiment. After some trial and error I got the growing medium disign right and its performing as it should.gypsom prooved successful in substituting hydroton and shreaded egg carton added wicking action without impacting drainage.this seems a good system to root a cutting with the dirt method,where rooting compound is applied and cutting is placed in dirt to root.will update as it progresses

I have seen the entire stems fused together and must say it was really weird looking, but the blooms and foliage was normal.

Yes, I've seen that. The plant was just in a hurry. Not to worry.

The post is a bit misleading -- saying "new evidence shows..." because another article said so, but the evidence isn't provided there. In effect, it's a rephrasing of "I heard that..." It would be nice to see something more substantiated. For now, I'm sticking with removing the entire plant if I see any RRD symptoms.

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~Christopher

Last fall, at the national rose convention in Tyler, I attended a round table discussion on RRD. Several university scientists discussed current research in removing afflicted canes, marking the rose, then watching to see if the disease presented in other parts of the rose. One researcher asked for attendees to send him canes with RRD and canes from the same rose that were not showing RRD, or canes from roses that appeared to have survived the disease. I'll have to dig out my notes, but I'll bet he is the person behind the reference "new evidence".

I have been using this method to fight RRD for 3 years now. IF I catch the RRD early, meaning it is only visible on one cane, then I can absolutely stop the progress of disease in that rose. I think this technique failed in the Tulsa Rose Garden because so much of the work is done by volunteers, and to catch RRD early, one has to be extremely vigilant, and really know what to look for in early signs. Between 2008-2012, I dug out 35 infected roses in my garden. Since 2012, I've only had 2 that I had to remove--out of over 350 roses! The disease is rampant in this area, and multiflora rose grows wild nearby. I suspect a few canes I've removed in the past year were just roundup damaged canes, but I'm not taking any chances.

Henry, once you see a published paper on removing afflicted canes, please let us know! I would like to present the official findings to our local rose society. Fewer and fewer people are growing roses because of this problem, and because of the continued perception that roses have to have chemical treatments to stay pretty. I grow organically, and I invite groups to my garden, but for most people, it's easier to buy crepe myrtles, hibiscus, and salvia for summer color. Commercial plantings that used to have long rows of roses now have shrubby cinquefoil!

Its old foliage near the base of the rose. Under pruning means pulling off the old stuff around the base so spores don't get splashed up in rainy weather and to improve air circulation. Some rosarians under prune HTs routinely 'cuz the old foliage gets ratty & drops anyway. Just pull it off.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try getting rid of the affected leaves with under pruning. Hope I'm not too late since it's raining today (but we needed it badly).

I also had a bad infestation this year. I had to go out 3-4 times a day to knock them into soapy bucket. Between the trap and me, we caught about 3 five gallon buckets full of JBs and some June bugs. I hope that I got all or most of the JB's this year before they reproduce. I will report back next year whether the JB's population decreases with this method. As of now, I have a spotted a few but not quite the numbers I had seen during the peak of infestation.

I only had six in my bucket last night. That is the total since Sunday morning. I usually get lot more than that in a day, so I hope they are almost done for the year.

I bought Francine Austin. I'm tempted by Bow Bells and Happy Child, but I've held out so far....

Forgive me for straying off the topic, but those who like Francine Austin may be interested in the new variety Sir Walter Scott. Looks similar to Francine, with little pink flowers. You can see it on the DA/UK site for 2015/16 introductions. Fingers crossed that we'll see it sold in the US this year, I am saving a spot for it.

It just dried up from the heat. Hopefully when it cools down it will bud again and be OK.

Thanks for getting back to me. I willjust have to wait and see what the next bud will be.

That's a beauty, Sara!

Thank you everyone!