22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
I have a small no spray garden,so I am very selective about what roses I plant as I live in the southeastern mountains. After much research, I planted a big three gallon Cinco De Mayo from a local nursery, knowing full well it black spots in some southeastern gardens and not in others. I also know the first year is not a true measure of the success of a rose in my area, but I'm happy to say the first year has been a great success. It has bloomed literally non stop, has some black spot, but everyone else does, too. The leaves are still full and healthy this late in the season. I love the color and the fragrance; she's a big flouncy party girl, always swirling and dancing in the wind.
Reading this reference on HMF,
"Monographie du Genre RosierEDIT
Book (1824) Page(s) 155.
R. sulfurea Var. minor. Pourpre jaune. This variety does not bloom unless grafted, and that rarely; it is double the former [R. sulpfurea]." R. Hemisphaerica is a synonym for sufphueera. Perhaps what you're looking for might be might be Sulpheraea flore plena? Kim
Here is a link that might be useful: R. Hemisphaerica flore plena
Pretty much the same issue as Social Security. The money WAS there, until Congress and Presidents figured out how to steal it for other purposes. Both could support themselves, IF their money was used for what it was originally intended for. Kim
I have gotten packages where the boxes were cut up and used as spacers, etc. Seemed wasteful to me to use instead of crushed paper, etc. Maybe since it was a flat rate, they figured why not sacrifice the free clean boxes as packing material. But it makes it tough for the person who wants a box and can't find one. I like to reuse boxes when I can. Sometimes flat rate is a good thing, but its always best to be sure you're not overspending.
Try googling rose recipes. I just did and the general topic had many recipes listed, plus a breakdown into more specialized topics, such as rose cakes, rose wine, etc. If you search for rose gumdrop recipes, you will come up with more of a "how to make a gumdrop rose" series of listings. You might have to do a little bit more rigorous searching for gumdrop recipes. I have made lemon and orange gumdrops, so it seems like using a rose oil or extract as the flavoring would be very possible. Diane
They have sale pricing on the link below. Perhaps what you found was an older link? Kim
Here is a link that might be useful: Highcountry Roses sale
Jackie, I was suggested to look into two sports of "Bel Ange": "Angel Girl", 1973, U.S.
and "Colin's Salmon", 1970, Australia.
The second one ("Colin's Salmon") seems to be quite a good option! I wonder why it is sold in South America as 'Salmon Ange' and still appears this way in the American Rose Society. I would love to grow the three plants all together to compare.
Here I attach a picture of "Salmon Ange".
Thanks for your reply!
Wow, you have so much space! MG is right on -- Knock Outs that are pruned to the ground in spring here (northern Virginia) are 6x6 in August. I'm counting the tree trunks in your photo thinking that there will be a lot of root competition and I still vote for nandina or nandina plus perennials. Is there another spot in your yard where you could make an island bed for roses?
Okay, nandina it is. I can put the roses on the other side of my property. Unfortunately, I put them in a perennial bed thinking they wouldn't get much bigger than three feet. Oh well. What perennials do you suggest with the firepower nandina? I'm thinking of geraniums, coreopsis, and heuchera. Maybe also putting in a climbing vine on one or both the corner trees.
Thanks so much!
I have decided on the Mellow Yellow rose. There were a lot of great suggestions, THANK YOU. I really don't care much for the grafted roses so I looked at Heirloom's selection (all own root). Heirloom has some real nice roses to choose from and their delivery is fantastic, Mellow Yellow has been delivered and in the ground with not one leaf removed thanks to their packaging & looks to be strong and healthy. Thanks again. Pembroke
If you plant it in a pot, you will need to water it very frequently in the summer. The soil should feel moist, but not soaking wet. If the soil feels dry a few inches below the surface, you need to water. You may even have to water every day in the summer. Don't overwater though because that is bad for the plant.
If you plant in the ground, how much you need to water depends on your soil and your weather. If it rains a good amount you don't need to water. Sandy soil needs more water. Windy weather requires more watering. Hot weather requires more water. Arid climates require more water.
When you plant a new plant you will have to water more frequently for a week or two. The new plant doesn't have enough roots yet. Don't overwater.
If the leaves turn yellow and droop it may be that you haven't watered enough or it may be that you watered too much and drowned the roots. If the soil feels really wet when you stick your finger in it, then you probably watered too much. If it feels dry, you probably haven't watered enough.
Sometimes, especially when you plant new roses in the sun during a hot time of year, you are watering just the right amount but the leaves still wilt and look bad. Put something next to the plant to provide temporary shade in the afternoon. After the weather gets cooler and the plant establishes, move the shade away.
There is no exact right amount of sun and water that every rose needs. You need to analyze your conditions.
Working with the soil and using the suggestions of others who have posted in this thread is fine, as far as I know. It's just the wrong time of year to determine if they are getting enough light.
Smiles,
Lyn
If you are having soil problems, try putting in a raised bed with good soil. Your ph needs to be 6.3-6.5. IF you can't get it there you will have discolored leaves. There are ph charts you can see that shows you what nutrients get locked up at what ph level.