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It will wake up the roses so they smell better!

But putting the grounds into a compost pile as suggested is likely the best idea to neutralize whatever is in the grounds, caffeine or not.

I would think that any caffeine would have dissipated into your cup of Joe. So you can go out and smell the roses!

it certainly perks me up!

And one of mine is an expensive tree rose! I would need a pick ax to break up my soil if I could find it underneath the two feet of permafrost. Disgusted.

I'm appalled, Susan. The web site of my nursery has all sorts of angels, prayers, good will, sweetness and light. But the person who answered the phone, who was also the one who did the mailing, was outraged and hateful that I would complain about receiving a potted rose, fully leafed out, when temperatures were in the single digits.

Overhead irrigation does not, in itself, cause blackspot. It may go some way to create the conditions necessary for infection but, although I don't know the exact infection cycle of diplocarpon rosae(Blackspot), I do know that precise conditions need to be met for successful sporulation and infection of most fungal pathogens. Late blight (phytopthera infestans) in potatoes require a very precise set of temperature, humidity conditions, over a prescribed time for the fungal spores to germinate and penetrate the plants cellular system. These conditions are known as 'Smith Periods' and can be predicted since the cycle takes place over 2 consecutive days with minimum temperature of 10 ðC and 10 hours of relative humidity higher than 90% on the first day and 11 hours of relative humidity higher than 90% on the second day.
Presumably, blackspot fungus also requires particular conditions which are not likely to be met with a sprinkler system operating in normal daylight hours or for periods of time less than several hours. I would not let this situation be a reason for failing to enjoy growing roses....although there are roses with a higher resistance than others....and this can be both fun and exasperating, in discovering which roses do well for you.

The one main difference between my experience growing roses in CT where BS is a fact of life and here in SoCal where there is no BS, is humidity. Water on the foliage dries but humidity persists. Also, from experience, you don't need rain to get BS in CT. It will arrive right on schedule in the spring if you don't spray. It may even be that rain makes no difference at all or perhaps it is beneficial because it washes off the spores. I think if constant humidity is there at whatever level is necessary, there will be BS. I don't think watering practices have anything to do with it.

Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches can be made with anything. The classic 'jelly' is concord grape jelly. About ten miles north is a pick-your-own vineyard, so I've made it a couple of times.

Sorry Nik, I meant England, DAR and Harkness use it, as for the USA, I believe the Good Doctor is the choice.
Regards David.

'Pretty Jessica' is doing very well in my garden even though it is planted in a fairly difficult spot (palm root competition and too much shade). Mannerly size, lovely globular, wonderfully fragrant blooms.

'The Prince' is getting a little bit of powdery mildew here from time to time, but it is forgiven because of its absolutely gorgeous, velvety, dark crimson, very fragrant blooms. One of the smaller Austins.

My absolute favorite though is 'Charles Darwin'. I grow two in big containers and they are incredible floriferous. I love the always changing yellow color of the blooms (from mustard yellow, to a very pale one, to a yellow with a slightly apricot touch and anything in between). My bushes are completely healthy. They show signs that they might have outgrown their containers. My guess is once in the ground, they will become really big roses.

'Heritage', only in the ground for one year, but I am not too impressed so far. The color of the rose is mostly a pale apricot-pink here (not the cool light, pale pink, that I had hoped for), which I don't like so much. The blooms shatter very fast and the bush gets some powdery mildew.

'Mary Rose', one of the earliest roses to bloom in my garden. I love the bloom form. My rose is growing in a big container and gets some mildew from time to time.

All my roses are grown own-roots.

Good idea for a threat. I love to compare notes on how the Austins are doing in CA!

Christina

I am right by the bay and we have cool summers (temperatures rarely get into the 70s). My garden is no-spray. Powdery mildew is a menace here and anthracnose and cercospora trouble the roses that are prone to "spotting".

Belle Story - grafted. 10+ years. Spring and fall flushes with smattering of blooms in between. Good health but is prone to cercospora spots in summer. It has earned its place in my small suburban garden because of its enchanting and breath-taking blooms. Great fragrance, as well.

Molineux - I have 2. Own root (4th year) and grafted (10+ years). Always in bloom. Good health. My workhorses. Can be pruned to stay 4-5 feet.

Geoff Hamilton - own root; 5th year. Gorgeous blooms but a once-bloomer in my garden. I have seen it grown grafted in a warmer summer area where it has 3 big flushes.

Crown Princess Margareta - own root in its 4th year. Good spring flush and then all she wants to do is throw out long thin thorny (she has drawn blood) canes; I have almost no rebloom from her. I am tired of constantly hacking her back in attempts to control her exuberant growth. A few miles inland, a CPM, grafed and grown as a shrub, is almost constantly in bloom. CPM will be gone from my garden after this spring.

Mary Rose - own root; 4th year. So far, she is staying small. Great fragrance, good rebloom and healthy plant. A favorite.

Abraham Darby - own root, 4th year. I am trying to grow it as a small climber. It is generous of bloom and has decent health. The blooms leave something to be desired (mine don't always look like the pics on HMF) and I would replace it with a better rose but for its fragrance...

Young Lycidas - grafted, 4th year. Good repeat and blooms are very fragrant. Color is lovely - magenta-purple with a silvery sheen. Foliage is, well, weird. Crinkley and appears diseased but is not. Needs staking as the canes are pencil-thin and can't hold the heavy blooms.

Strawberry Hill - grafted; 3rd year. Gorgeous, fragrant blooms in shades of pink, peach and lilac depending on the weather. Generous of bloom. Prone to mildew and rust in my garden. (I hadn't seen rust in my garden before). Nasty, wicked thorns that snag. I grow it as a small climber and I am hoping it becomes more disease resistant with age as its foliage when not mildewed or looking like cheetos is absolutely lovely.

The Wedgwood Rose - Grafted; 3rd year. This rose has me baffled. I get 4 flushes but each flush has only 3-4 blooms. The size of blooms have ranged from the size of a quarter to 4 inches. Completely disease-free....of course.

The following were added to my garden in March last year, so too early for me to cast judgement but I am adding my observations on health and bloom. All are grafted.

Princess Anne - lovely shade of magenta-pink. Much admired by visitors. I can't detect a fragrance but most others say it is strong and very pleasant. Good-looking shrub. Canes are covered in thorns but they are not vicious. Stopped blooming after October.

Wollerton Old Hall - lovely blooms. Great fragrance. Bloomed well into December. Is my favorite of the new four.

Lady Emma Hamilton - would grow it for the fragrance alone. Plant appears to be healthy and repeat seems to be very good. I think you will enjoy having her, FJ.

Princess Alexandra of Kent - big blooms with a color range of pink and coral. Fragrance is iffy but, when there, it is pleasant. Has been constantly in bloom and is blooming now. Unfortunately, prone to powdery mildew. It's in an east facing bed and I will be moving it to a south-facing one to see if I can keep the PM in check. Also, the blooms have a tendency to ball so I am hoping the south side will help in that regard as well. (I try not to get roses with a high petal could but I guess I wasn't paying attention when I ordered this one.) FJ - I think getting her own root is probably a good idea. Mine is already 7 feet wide.

Jo

Wollerton Old Hall

Luci, your dad was a god sent after my disastrous first year growing roses. So sorry for your loss.

Mori

Luci, your dad was so understanding and patient with newbie insecurity and wonderfully helpful with the silliest of questions. I am so sorry for your loss.

LynnT

nice orange! Am wearing my orange pants (although I call them trousers) as I type - a cheerful colour, I think (my hall is that colour too).

However, the hooks and shelves are completely outside the scope of my experience (apart from gasping at the cost).

Is this an indoor space? Or is this the garage. I am confused because of the fridge. This area looks perfect for that system. I also like kitty's suggestions.
I am not gifted in the storage department. Every piece I have is covered with stuff, and my garage looks like a thermonuclear event took place.
I am envious of people who have that knack for making storage areas look cool and functional. That is not me. But the orange is very cheerful,

Andrea, when I run across a spam post, I copy the name of the thread and which forum it's on, then I contact GW at the link at the bottom of the pages (Contact Us) and provide them the information. They can't see everything nor be everywhere, but WE can help them cover all bases. Most often, once I've emailed them the information, the thread disappears. Kim

Nearly every morning I notify the Contact Us link that there is another spam post about films on the Rose Forum. Usually the offending post disappears before the morning is over.

Kate

Since your in Australia Curdle's idea make sense. A lot of the roses we suggest here might not be available in Oz, lol! On the other hand you guys have some wonderful roses we can't get here so may not even know about. If you can't get to the rose garden see if you can find a rose society somewhere near you. I'm sure they'd be glad to help!

Thanks Seil, we ordered iceberg tree and pale pink carpet. My husband felt that was good and also our nursery guy. Thanks again.

Kate, I don't have a bed for the newer ones yet. I will need another raised bed built. Can't do that myself. My handyman and gardener will do that next month.

Thanks all for your good info. I DID notice that the cane and roots looked very large. Guess I should have figured out that it wasn't a 'baby'.

Well, I put it in a pot (and did as Kim suggested). And I am sure that it will be great.

Haven't looked at it since the first, my boy pup cut his rear leg and thigh yesterday and had to be operated on for 2 hours. He is at home, whimpering and being fed home made chicken soup. God I hate it when my pups get sick or hurt. Well, I better stop and try to take him outside for a potty break. He's only 35 pounds, but for an 'older lady', that's a lot to carry up and down steps.

Thanks again all,

andrea

Wish I could have as many dogs as I do roses! Wishing u puppy kisses.

Wirosarian,
I do have a 30' pecan tree well away from them. However, it IS closer to the bushes on the east than the west, but can't imagine the roots of this old tree are at the same depth of the roses. Thanks for your response! This is the first time I've posted anything on this forum and love the depth of knowledge exhibited.

Hi,

Tree roots are one possibility, ground inclination is another as it would affect the water they receive, prevailing wind is a third factor as the roses growing upwind will tend to suffer more damage, proximity to hardscape is a fourth one which can go either way depending on your climate and non uniform soil or existence of a burried rock or burried concrete block a fifth. If I think hard I'm sure I can come up with more potential factors. Of course I left out the most important factor which is the sun they receive since I assume from your post they receive equal amounts.
Nik