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reemcook(8a PNW)

The shipping costs to PNW is high. I don't blame the sellers (they have to charge the buyer the price mandated by postal carriers).
I wish postal carriers would give small businesses a break with the shipping charges. It would really help the buyer and the seller.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 5:57PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

That's how I always feel when I order from sellers on the West Coast. :( I guess you have to weigh how much you want the item, verses the cost of shipping. Most of the time I just grin and bare it!

Tammy

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 10:36PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Oh, I didn't realize you had amended the topsoil so well already. So you only need be concerned about the subsoil. If you judge it is too bad for roots to penetrate at all, then amending it might help your roses during the California dry season.

I would treat the topsoil and subsoil separately rather than mixing them. Remove the topsoil from the rose holes, reserve it in a pile, and use a pick to break up the subsoil into chunks. Add some manure and compost and a cup or two of gypsum and mix a bit. Then replace the topsoil so it is uniform across the bed. This is the old technique called "double digging."

I would till the Turface into the topsoil of the whole bed. Again, it is best if the soil is fairly uniform across the area.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 3:20PM
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andreark

I (with a lot of help) will do as you suggest.

I just picked up my 7 new beauties at Regan's. The first were purchased from a friend...NOT A GOOD IDEA. The first 6 looked like weeds compared to these.

I also purchased a good (I think) pair of garden shears, ARS brand. I hope this is a good selection.

I will send photos as soon as all roses are in place.

And thank you all once again.

andrea

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 8:19PM
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Campanula UK Z8

yep, absolutely, turnbuckles - we call them straining wires and they are essential to avoid the saggy wire look and can be tightened as the wires will be ductile and stretch a bit over time.

I have spent too much time prising plant material off splintered timber trellis to want to take that route again - whereas a quick snip with wire cutters - sorted......and the whole horizontal support can be restrung with new (and cheap) wire.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 5:41PM
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deervssteve(9)

My Galway Bay was planted against the brick wall on the front of my house. I had used concrete nails and twine to train it.
Now it is about 8 feet tall in front of the wall with most growth away from the wall. I gave up trying to force it.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 6:22PM
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stevegjohns

Well, I do have a big, white-flower bush just to the left. Looks promising. Thank you!

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 4:09PM
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seil zone 6b MI

The brown, crispy looking edges are due to the thrips. The fading wouldn't be. That may just be the variety of rose it is or it could be due to your current weather conditions.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 5:07PM
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susan4952(5)

Looks a bit like my Paradise.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 2:55PM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

I looked up Paradise and the colors do look very very similar. The reverse color doesn't seem to creep up over the front of the petals. Could be though.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 5:02PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Knockouts here in our town are just now starting to bloom...
Maybe give it alittle more time...

But a photo like roseseek said would help a lot in case something else is wrong....

This post was edited by jim1961 on Mon, Jun 3, 13 at 23:16

    Bookmark   June 3, 2013 at 10:54PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'm sitting here wondering if your roses ever bloomed yet?
And please include a pic if you can as Roseseek mentioned if they haven't bloomed yet...

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 3:54PM
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ms. violet grey

Thanks for the pruning tip!

    Bookmark   June 3, 2013 at 5:17PM
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Jim_in_AV

He's a pic of my Charlie (from Hortico), planted in mid-December. Probably too early to say but I think he'll be a favorite next year.

This post was edited by Jim_in_AV on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 14:54

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 2:48PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

I live in Lexington, KY. In the past 2 weeks I've seen RRD in 2 other gardens. Last year I lost Pat's Choice to RRD and another garden had it on Chris Everett. Thanks for posting the update.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 2:40PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Fragrance? Is it body-bagged from a big-box store or was it from a garden center with a weeks or star tag?

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 11:02AM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Here's today's pic of the leaves, etc. Sorry for the double posting. I purchased it online bareroot at Garden Valley Ranch and their website is closed this time of year so I can't look at their offerings. It had a white nursery tag that said Kardinal.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 2:10PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yup. Ground-Cover = FLOP. Meant to lie on the ground as a carpet of roses.

Jeri

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 8:00PM
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dog_wood_2010(7)

Roses need 6-8 hours of sun per day. Not enough sun will cause your rose to strain for the sun and flop over. Also, too much nitrogen will cause roses to flop vs phosphorous and potassium.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2013 at 11:33AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

My secret to digging holes....add water, come back the next day and dig some more...add more water.

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 10:51PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

I agree with Kippy but I would put Gypsum in the hole..it breaks down hard soil.

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 11:54PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

I am posting again about this rose. It does have a slight fragrance. It is so spectacular. The color is just delicious.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2012 at 1:11PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

Well here we are two years later..This rose has more blooms on it this year than ever before!

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 11:51PM
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debandroses

Thanks for the pic advice. I will try that. The rose is climbing America.

deb

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 8:40AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Wow, that is a beautiful picture, what a pretty rose. I've had a Cl. America for several years that hardly blooms, but it has more this year than it ever has. Would like to see some more pictures of your roses.

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 6:57PM
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alameda/zone 8

If it was a body bagged rose, there is a liklihood of it being a rose that is not named - just a rose that was bagged up and given a name. Usually not the correct one. I bought some beautiful potted roses from Walmart a few years ago, was excited to get roses like New Year, Old Timer, cant recall the rest. I put them in a great raised bed, coddled them all winter and when spring came - they were all the same orangish colored rose and were most certainly not what they were supposed to be. Worse......even with the best of care, they all sickened and died. That did it for me on the bagged or potted roses from stores like Walmart. What a waste of time. My guess would be its an unknown, unamed rose and unless some more knowledgable than me can come up with a name - I would just enjoy it and not worry about a name. Hope I am wrong and it can be identified - but I have become suspicious of bagged/potted roses from box stores since my experience. Good luck!

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 4:22PM
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nummykitchen

Thanks, guys!

Good information, Cynthia!

Alameda -- I had no idea that there were just random roses out there, I thought they were all something named (possibly mislabeled, but still named) unless you were growing from hips/seeds yourself.

This is only my second year growing and I kind of threw together this bed with body bags from Lowe's and online orders from Heirloom and Rogue Valley so I'm hoping I didn't mix anything up although I'm pretty sure that the Gene Boerner was a bagged one.

Anyone grow Carefree Beauty or Neon Lights or do you all think this one is just an unnamed mass produced one?

    Bookmark   June 4, 2013 at 5:19PM
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