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Glad my question helped some other people out too! Thanks. :) This has been a very informative site and very helpful for a newbie like me.
I hope I don't start bugging people with questions! I've been reading back posts too to keep them down some LOL. And it's good to know that becoming obsessed with roses isn't a new thing :) My husband won't have to cart me away to the mental ward.
Cas

I grew a couple roses for 1 season in miracle gro moisture control potting mix and they grew quite well.
This year the same potting mix is 2-3 years old and I'm
growing tomato plants in the pots... I sprinked some Dr Earth (Life all purpose) granular fertilizer in the pots and there growing really good...(Tomato plants)
The Tones are much easier to find local though so that's probably what I'll get when this runs out.....

I really like your idea!
I would purchase 4X4 outdoor lumber posts. Use a post hole digger and sink the posts into the ground. I would then attach the benches to the posts vertical as trellises. Paint the posts the same color as the trellises.
Make sure the above ground height of the posts is at least 2/3 of the height of the trellis.
This post was edited by lsst on Mon, Jun 3, 13 at 19:21

Oh gosh, mine is a monster! It gets a good 6 feet tall every season no matter how far I have to prune it back in the spring. But it's typically tall and narrow like most HTs. It blooms in flushes with about an 6 week cycle so I usually only get 3 flushes. But they're gorgeous and huge and last on the bush for at least a week if I let them. It's fairly healthy although it will spot some but it's never defoliated on me. It's potted on the patio where it gets the best sun. It's been very winter hardy too. All in all I'm very pleased with mine.

i know how you feel. i have one that has ben passed down though 5 generations. there are several at my 92 year old great great grand mothers sisters house. its ben there some where near 100 years. it was there mothers rose. i do wish you the best of luck. i hope it blooms for you next spring.

Do a bunch of cuttings before you move it if you can, imho, yeah. Then the move won't be so scary!
It'll probably do great. When it's cooler sometime in September is probably when I'd do it since you don't know about the winter hardiness of the rose. That gives it a few months to settle in before the real cold comes.
Cuttings are babies and not as hardy as they will be later. I make 2-liter-bottle open-top greenhouses for them outside in the winter, and that seems to help. I do it for any marginal small plant, and it works much better than being in the open cold in my yard. I just cut off the very top and bottom so there is a clear 'collar' that's several inches tall. Then I put it around them.
Hardiness here is usually a matter of 5-10 degrees (on Teas or similar, not most roses), so I don't know how it would work in places that need more extra warmth than that.

Often this is a small scale problem that doesn't call for a preventative response, so maybe you don't need to do anything.
The bug you found in the hole is not necessarily the culprit. There are sawfly larvae (green worms around 1") that tunnel in buds, and spinosad will kill them.

I grow Queen Elizabeth here in N. Texas, and from my experience she enjoys a properly brutal pruning. Try deep watering her, pruning her down, and administering a weak liquid fertilizer. It may be that she is simply using the nutrients to create a stronger root system; often times I find that my roses may not be growing above ground because they are growing below ground.
My QE grows to become a monstrosity, and has breached the 7' threshold already before the summer has hit. Don't lose faith, she's a hardy one.

If you see a huge graft union (knot) in the middle of the rose at the bottom, that indicates that the plant is probably grafted onto Dr. Huey. While it is not 100% bad, in my garden, it does have the tendency to sucker (send up canes of Dr. Huey) more than roses grafted on R. multiflora rootstock. I do still have older plants that are grafted on Dr. Huey, but I keep a close eye on them to watch out for Dr. Huey suckers. I have one on my Touch of Class where I have been battling a Dr. Huey sucker. If you bury the graft union, you may have a better chance of avoiding suckering.

I had a cherry parfait bare root rose that didn't bud out for almost a month! The canes weren't brown but it just sat there..annoying me. Someone on here mentioned to take a plastic grocery bag and cover the the plant, then you should have a stern talking to it. Within a week the plant started sending out new life! It may have been a coincidence but the bush grew fast and caught up to the other bare roots in no time!
Tammy O

Longest lasting are probably Falling in Love and Veterans Honor....both last forever on the bush and in a vase and look good from bud until the end. Always covered in blooms are Easy Going, Julia Child, Easy Does It, Outta the Blue and Passionate Kisses.

The Drift Roses series here in the US would fit your requirements. They stay in that height range, bloom continuously with no maintenance and are extremely disease resistant...no fragrance, though. It appears they are available in Europe...http://www.driftroses.eu/

Thank you both for your answers. I really like the drift roses. I have sent them an email. I have spoken with bierkreek.nl and they initially responded saying that someone was on vacation and they would get back to me in a week. Its been a few weeks since then already and I still havent heard anything back from them. I have looked over what they have available from their website but since I don't have any idea as to what to look for that doesnt do me much good.

Whlle I amOK with getting rid of most of my rose bushes that are infected right now, I will find it very difficult to get rid of my 'Dream Come True' rose bush. That is the one I am trying to salvage.
http://www.rose.org/2008-winner-dream-come-true/
Enjay

Hi Enjay -- I will try to post the pictures this weekend. Long commute/work hours means I am lucky to get home when there is still light. :(
For now, here are links that you can see the pictures as well as description of Bonica and Belinda's dream.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=792&tab=36
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.574&tab=36
Also, I am 100% with Diana-NJ that you cannot generalize too much when it comes to roses. People might have vastly different experiences even with the same rose in the same area. Although Bonica is doing quite well in my garden, I saw last year the ones at the Brookdale Park (near Bloomfield) seem to suffer quite a bit from blackspot. Being a Newbie myself, I guess how the roses do for us has a lot to with a lot of variables (e.g., quality of specimen, soil, sun exposure and water habit). Carefree Bueaty, another reportedly bullet-proof rose, is a total dud in my garden.
I saw another pink rose, Cape Diamond, there last year, which did not seem affected by any disease at all. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.44277.0 However, I dare not to grow it as, by the look of its size, it seems to have exceptional vigor and I can only handle smaller roses given how small/crowded my garden is.
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Mark



I can recommend Teasing Georgia & James Galway (see pic). These were planted in April 2011 and look at them now. They are gorgeous. I counted the number of buds on one cane of TG - 19 soon-to-be flowers! This pic was taken last week & there are many more flowers now.
Another plus - they bloom until December, and come thru our NY winters like the champs they are. No winter dieback & all I do to protect them is throw some mulch around the base.






That's interesting, Dr. Kuska, thank you. Does it germinate w/o an agar source on mulches of different kinds?
Regarding growth w/o an agar source. Apparently the paper always used at least some agar. It is based on a Ph.D. Thesis. Perhaps there would be some information in the Historical Section that would answer your question. This is what the paper states: "The basal-synthetic culture medium was the glucose-asparagine medium of Lilly and Barnett (1951) adjusted to pH 6.0.medium."........... (H.Kuska comment: In one kind of experiment) Cellulose and starch were incorporated into the basal-synthetic medium which was solidified with 2 per cent agar. High-grade filter paper cut to a pulp in a Waring Blendor was used as a cellulose source, and soluble starch was employed at approximately 10 g./l".......... "Growth on cellulose and starch, though not dense, is quite good after six weeks."
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There appears to be a pH effect on germination. The following is a quote from the full paper: "The greatest mycelial growth occurred at the lowest pH value at the end of the third week. As the pH started to rise more growth would be expected to take place, but on the contrary, the mycelial dry weights were less at the end of the fifth and sixth weeks."
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