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The height isn't the same. The high end is higher to account for the slope.

forgot that looks similar to Madam Isaac

Pompon blanc parfait

Red wand climbing an oak tree

I'm more concerned with chili thrips (I should have specified). I thought my roses were all suffering from the heat. But now I realize that I think it's the darned chili thrips that have them looking so bad. Any suggestions?

DSD, there is a thread up on controlling chilli thrips.

Michael -- Depends upon the breed of dog. :-)

Jeri

Oh, yeah! There is a TON of difference between the bladder capacity of a six pound Toy Fox Terror and that of a Great Pyrenees! Kim

The information I have on it says zone 5-10.
We don't get that cold here. I've never lost a rose yet to the winter so I'm not concerned about that.

Actually found a web site with the information on this particular rose and it says zone 4 to 11. Brighter blooms says 5-10.... either way I'm in the clear.

Here is a link that might be useful: peach drift information

I've had the worst season of RRD this year since I've been growing roses in the mid 80's. I've already pitched 4 roses with it and 2 others have sprouted RRD canes which I've cut back to the crown trying to save them (if the RRD hasn't moved down to the roots). I've had luck with doing this before - about 20% of my roses being saved if I had caught the RRD in time. These last two roses I'm particularly fond of and don't want to loose which is why I'm chancing it..... Gotten more and more into daylilies as I've gotten older, and it's a good thing too. My rose days may be numbered. From one or two RRD roses every few years to this mess this year...Since Knock Outs started being planted in every gas station and rent house around here, there's more roses then ever to spread the mites that have the disease......Such a shame....... If it ever crosses the Rockies, I feel sorry for those in the mild climates along the coast.........Maryl

I regularly see KOs in commercial settings that have RRD. I would have to carry around a shovel with me to get rid of all of them. I too was able to save some roses by removing infected canes. Even my Ballerina, which was awfully affected and we thought we removed all the roots, came back and has been healthy so far.

I spoke to DA just this morning. The nice Customer Service Lady said that its a good rose for my climate (very similar to the Pacific Northwest). She said that its a heathy rose but not so hardy if I lived closer to the sea. (There's a couple very, very small mountains between the sea and my garden so I'm ok)

I also asked why its a lesser known variety. She answered a distinctive London accent, "it's just an older variety, we're not hiding it or anything. It's a lovely rose, beautiful cups with fewer petals so the rain doesn't affect them as much. It would do well for you in Donegal as long as your a bit inland from the coast."

I hope that helps. I'm not sure what your zone is.

M.

Thanks mirendajean

Thanks again for important information Jeri. I'm glad you alerted me of that growth habit. Would you say Altissimo might be a good substitute as a red pillar for Gloire des Rosomanes?

Your Setzer Noisette is lovely. Indeed I can't spot it in commerce anywhere, but it's one to keep in mind nevertheless. Perhaps I'll plan to have a central dual trained pillar between two single rose pillars since most of the varieties I'm captivated by seem a bit vigorous.

Jay

Jay, the only place I know that Setzer might show up is the Sacramento City Cemetery, because we donated it to the garden, but you might check with Burlington Rose Nursery.

Altissimo is a true Pillar climber, in that it goes straight up and fans out manageably. It was never happy in my garden, but a friend grew it in La Conchita. It grew all the way up her 2-story home. I have envied it for years. It's a good coastal rose.

But for myself, I like 'Fourth of July' more. Personal preference. (See below)

Jeri

My Renae is always simi double in the spring and very double in the heat of summer, and once in awhile in the twenty some years that I have been growing it a thorn pops up to catch my attention.
I haven't been on this forum in years do to bad health. My garden has suffered greatly because of my health problems but now I am trying to rebuild it. I lost most of my roses during my illness but Renae is one that is still growing and blooming with no change. I just purchased Annie Laurie McDowell can't wait to see how she stacks up in my garden. Great week ahead of me, just picked up a large order of roses from Burlington Roses to start replacing those lost.

Very cool plantings. Good health to you, rosepat.

Just pulled another one here with RRD and your rose certainly doesn't look like any I've had to pitch this year (4 and counting). I think you got lucky.......Maryl

Thanks Maryl. It sure is hard to pull up those roses. I have pulled up at least 4 and cut back a lot to see what happens.
There are so many Knock Out roses planted by offices and city landscaping that I bet next summer is going to be even worse.
Does it ever go away? I no longer have Japanese Beatles but this is more serious.

Water by hand, and when the water hits them, they jump and you can spot them.

I side with the squeamish people on controlling with violence....And we've got some doozies this year too. I saw my garden Gnome riding one the other day like a small pony. I'm talking big folks. Which is why it surprised me when I spotted this fellow having lunch on one the other day. Thought they were too big for these guys, but apparently not....Maryl

Nah -- dig the darn thing out and plant something worth growing, which would not be Dr. Huey. Dr. Huey makes a good root stock but is not a good rose in this SoCal climate. You will have to spend mega bucks keeping it from getting major disease for one bloom cycle per year. Who needs that? Invest a few bucks at a nursery or even Home Depot and get something YOU like. Most everything that is of more recent introduction -- the past several years -- is much better disease-wise than Dr. Huey, and most everything has more than one bloom cycle. And roses are not that expensive.

If it is Dr. Huey and you do keep it, you will have what is probably the most common rose in So Cal other than Iceberg (the white landscaping plant seen everywhere, start with In-N-Out burger). Wander around your subdivision in the spring and you will see lots of them.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pic of full grown Dr. Huey

For a Southern California garden, as Kstrong says, a rootstock reversion is overwhelmingly likely to be 'Dr. Huey,' and unless you want to maintain a rigorous spray program (DON'T!) this is just not a rose you want to grow.

The only other thing that shows up in CA with any regularity is "Ragged Robin." ('Gloire des Rosomanes') You're only going to find that in gardens (or at homes) dating back to maybe the 1930's. (And that's too bad, because "Ragged Robin" is really a GREAT rose!

If your home was new in the 50's, or 60's, or later, you probably have 'Dr. Huey.' Unless you have nothing else to play with in your new home and garden, the best advice, probably, is to write him off, and start over.

Jeri

No problem, My rose outgrew me which made me happy at first, then when getting the roses got to be a serious pain I just cut it all hahaha...
Just cut some branches 6 days ago.

I grow Caramel FT as a small climber, the main canes arch over, and the blooms come off of laterals. I cut a lot of it off after the first flush (early July). It is now in full bloom again, the only one (other than Blushing KO) in the garden that looks good.

Which ever RMV it is it's probably not an automatic death sentence. I have roses with RMV that are 20 or 30 years old and still going strong. And I have mighty cold winters most years. The symptoms do show up most often when the plant is stressed for some other reason like heat or drought. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell which ones they are. They grow and bloom with the best of them.

seil, I recommend that any that you have that show up with heat be sent for testing. At least send pictures of infected leaves.

Ouch, Higgs! But the yard looks great!
Try the search features on the home page, or start a new thread. People will be reading this to find out about the tree rose.

Higgs, I personally POP the little devils with my fingers. They do pop rather satisfactorily! If you don't feel up to that, you could hose them off with a strong blast of water, aimed upward, from under the foliage.

But popping is more certain, and satisfies a bit of savagery in human nature.

Jeri