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Just a foot note, but my two Coiner $8 roses are in bloom today. Not my favorite and planted where I might need access in a hurry and would not hesitate to remove, but they are happy and busy blooming away.
Irony is the cutting that I have spent about a year babying to first root, then sprout and finally it bloomed......I think is the wrong rose. Mom wanted a cutting from her favorite from her friend, I think I have something in a blah tone of yellow. At best it might be Peace (which I already have)
Swung by both Home Despot and Lowe's today. The most interesting rose at either store was the "Raspberry Kiss" at the Lowe's store. It's a new -- just imported from Europe -- hulthemia that Certified Roses has seen fit to market under a new name in the U.S. I suspect it's going to be a terrific rose. The European name that some may recognize is "Eyes on Me," of the getting-better-known "Eyes" series from Chris Warner. Gots me one.
At Home Depot, the most unusual roses were "Hailstorm," "Super Gold" (an older Joe Winchel Hybrid Tea bred from Gold Medal) and a tree-grafted "Perfume Tiger." I'm a big fan of Perfume Tiger, but I didn't need another one, so the only rose that actually jumped in my cart today was the Raspberry Kiss. Otherwise, both stores just had the same old usuals.
rose_toes - yes, that is all one bush - we couldn't fit two on the house! The wall it is growing on is 3 stories tall. It has a full Southern exposure. It gets full sun after about the first 10 feet from the ground, which only get about 2 hours of sun. In this picture you can see the base of it (behind the green short bush, which is another rose not blooming when this pic was taken).
You should be able to grow it well in your zone - just plant it where it is as sheltered as you can, with as much sun as you can. It will grow up a tree or a building. As I said, you need to be willing to wait 1-2 years for it to start to take off.
Jackie
Rosetoes, Lady Banks grows well in Tehachapi, Ca, up in the mountains between Mojave and Bakersfield where there is plenty of winter chill for stone fruit. The area ranges from zones 8a to 8b, with probably many other modified versions of each due to the mountainous terrain. She may not attain the massive proportions of Jackie's nor the monstrous ones here, but she's definitely "hardy" enough for those types of climates. Give her time and room and she'll probably displace the rest of the garden! Kim
Yes, I'm also glad your power is up and running, but my, was your house cold! How did the pipes survive it? I wish one of our trees would have an "accident" so some of my roses in too much shade would have more sun. Looks like you might have some firewood, too. Diane
Diane, once it hit 4C (39F) indoors we drained the pipes and shut the water off and ran to my husbands' folks' place, cat and all. The worst that happened was that the pilot light on the hot water tank went out, which isn't a big deal at all. When the tree broke it tore down our phone/internet/cable wire, but my hubby is very handy and he was able to MacGyver it back together until the servicemen can get here (which hasn't happened yet). And yes, we now have bountiful firewood!
BTW, my hubby thought I was nuts when "Hey, I can plant more roses now!" was the first thing out of my mouth after that branch came down! lol
About chickens - who woulda thunk they'd munch roses! I've been a city slicker my whole life and so never had any of my own, but I've been privileged to work in the company of many different types of animals, and I find it special no matter how 'mundane' the critters. Although now that I think of it, I could probably live without so many urban squirrels... talk about garden-destroying thugs!
These are the ones that I was considering.
Here is a link that might be useful: Gardener's Edge fabric pots
I've used 15 gallon smart pots to grow most of our roses to a more mature size before planting. They develop a very healthy root system and don't suffer as much stress when they are planted in the ground.
Also, I can test the rose in the spot I've chosen for it to see how it looks / grows / flowers there. I've changed my mind quite a few times about a new roses' location because it did not grow well there.
If you put the cloth pots on top of soil the plant will root into the outside soil which is a plus until you move the pot. Then you have to pull up those extra roots. There are so many roots left in the bag though the plants don't seem to mind other than needing a little more water than before.
Bottom line is they work really well for me.
Lee
Jim, there is soil under my raised bed. The soil used to be lawn until it was pulled up last year.
Almost every rose is listed as "disease resistant" these days. That being said, I'd rather have something interesting or exotic if I can have only one bush in that space. Mildew is not a problem here since it doesn't rain from April till November ...
I was hoping for a bourbon or moss rose or something else not mass marketish. Thoughts, anybody?
Personally, I would plant one of the smaller tea roses there (my 'Safrano has stayed a mannerly size for over 40 years, and is gorgeous and blooms 11 months of he year) - they bloom constantly in warm climates, and you do not have to spray them. A china rose would also be a good choice (look at pictures of 'Old Blush', or 'Mutabilis') - partly it depends on what kind of rose look you like.
Or, you could build a climbing structure in the bed and plant a pillar type rose.
Jackie
Our best white rose is Pope John Paul II. It blooms better than most of my HT roses, including Mr. Lincoln and Double Delight. We have 3 JPII's in our cutting / fragrance bed with 6 Mr. L's and 4 DD's. The JPII's are disease free (no spraying) are more prolific and repeat quicker than ML and DD. The fact that JPII performs so well while they are all in the same bed, same soil, sun exposure, water, etc. tells me this is an excellent rose compared to 2 of the great roses of all time.
This photo was taken this morning Dec. 26. I am waiting until after the New Year to prune but I stopped dead heading and reduced watering about 2 weeks ago.
One of the top 3 HT's of the 20 varieties we grow. The other 2 great roses for us are Secret and Peter Mayle.
JP II is a great rose, vigorous, disease free, prolific and fast repeat and great cut with a very strong fragrance!
Lee
I got a Peach Silk a long time ago from Heirloom when it was in their catalog. I liked it so much I asked about it - wanted 2 of them. They must have had them in inventory as they sent me the 2 roses in my order. They are now growing in large pots and I plan to plant them in the ground this winter. Ask and they will probably find one for you. See the other post on this rose - apparently they are available.
Judith
What I might do with that space is plant two Munstead Woods (Austin) in opposite quadrangles and then the low frilly white hardy garden geranium (perennial) in the other two opposing quadrangles. Should be quite dramatic--dark red/purple rose and airy white perennial.
Or for a specimen, I might plant one Bourbon--either Souvenir de la Malmaison or its nearly identical twin Mystic Beauty (available from Roses Unlimited). Perhaps for the first year or two, plant some interesting smaller/low-growing annuals in each of the corners.
Or another specimen choice--taller and more upright growing--try Austin's Lady of Shalott--or browse the Austin site for another taller growing, disease-resistant, floriferous shrub with blooms of a different color. Many of his introductions the past couple years would be excellent choices.
Check the Austin cite here:
David Austin site
Are you familiar with helpmefind.com ? Wonderful data base with lots of photos on just about any rose in existence. Look up other roses there.
You would probably need to buy any of these from an online nursery since they are not readily available in local garden centers.
Good luck. I like the idea of your raised bed there.
Kate
Soooo, what you all are telling me is that instead of worrying about my neighbors pine needles landing in my yard, I should go over and rake her yard to get more of them. Thanks a lot..... just more work for me....grrr..... and I came on here looking for help...... lovely......
Hee hee, Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!!
Hmmm, raking isn't such a bad idea after all........
HAHA Toolbelt. My pine 'forest' has just gotten to the point where it gives me enough straw to use as mulch. I do have to rake it up though.
In most of my beds, I prefer bark chips, which are also pine. But on hills and around the trees, I'm not going to pass on some 'free' mulch. And raking is great exercise.
OSH is a big box home and hardware store that used to be all over California, but which has been shrinking of late so it seems to have most of its stores in Northern California. My store in Laguna Hills closed a few years ago. I think there are only a couple of them left in SoCal. Competes (apparently not very well) with Home Depot and Lowes.
I live in the East Bay and there are three OSH stores that I shop at; two near where I live and one where I work. The closest location to me is in Moraga and was opened the most recently. I would consider it a poor location, but I guess they did their market research to locate there. independently. OSH stores are a lot smaller than Loews or
Loews supposedly bought them and say they will be run Home Depot. There customer service Is better.