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kstrong(10 So Cal)

Prolly it's regular Peace. Check out the flower shape when it blooms. If the word "voluptuous" describes it, there you are.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 10:33AM
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kathy9norcal

That is one reason I only buy blooming roses from big box stores. Maybe you can post a picture of it here? Some surprises are even better than what we wanted. Some not.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 11:43AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

It may be alittle transplant shock... Have your temps been high? If so you might want to shade them during the hottest part of your day for awhile until they perk back up. Like put plastic outdoor chairs over them.
But I do realize you have 20 of them so that would be rough.
Keep them well watered...

Did you give them any granular fertilizer? I just did that to my starting the second year double KO's and they did not like it very much at al herel.

I do not fertilze first year roses at all...

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:19PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

As Jim suggests, it could be fertilizer burn--too much fast nitrogen. New roses should be fertilized less than label doses because they may already have fertilizer in the potting mix. And label doses are already very generous, so you should never exceed them. Flushing the soil with plenty of water might help. It is possible to kill roses with fertilizer, but I expect these will survive.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 11:27AM
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DrMuffinz(6a)

Yes, my grandfather dug trenches, but since I have the shed available to me it seems like the better, or at least easier, option. It can be rather cold here, but it seems that if they are insulated enough they may make it.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 9:36PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Heed mike_rivers' point that the slab is by far the warmest part of the shed on a cold winter night. If you insulate, do not insulate the pot from the slab, but insulate so as to retain heat moving from the slab into the pot.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2013 at 11:14AM
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chueh(7B)

Thank you so much Kim. I was about to give it more fertilizer before I posted the question. I am glad I waited until knowing what is really going on.

You have given me all goof info. Thank you for your patience. :-)

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 8:09PM
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roseseek

You're welcome, Chueh. I hope it helps! Kim

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 9:57PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If there is any green cane they should leaf back out. Cut off anything that is black down to where there is good white center pith and they should grow back.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 11:00PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Sorry to hear about your roses. I've had crazy stuff
happen this year too... Hang in there and do what Seil says...

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 9:16PM
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roseseek

NO. You have to feed and water the rose and that is best accomplished FROM THE TOP. The water and nutrients are going to go through the herbs first so they'll get theirs before the rose will. You want the rose healthy and vigorous. Why take half its root area; half its water holding potential away from it for the herbs? What happens when you determine you don't like the bugs or fungal issues and want to spray the rose to get rid of them? You don't want to spray your herbs, even with organics or bacterials.

If the plants were in the ground, it would be less of an issue as there would be tremendously greater soil area providing tremendously better water holding potential than the pot does. Even then, though, you would still face the potential spray issue. Plus, the rose will benefit from being regularly fed. The herbs generally don't NEED to be. Kim

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 8:03PM
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gardenInTheSky(8b)

Allright, thanks for the advice. I guess I'd better go find some more pots.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 8:43PM
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blocke19

And a close up

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 5:25PM
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kittymoonbeam

Mine has not faded fast even in hot weather. The size of the blooms is large and the stems grow tall and sturdy. I like the soft color. I do not have any information about cold hardiness.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 8:36PM
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cambel(z6-7a DC)

Blue Girl can be ridiculously large.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:33PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

Parole (aka, "Buxom Beauty"). Palatine usually carries it, they will open for ordering in September. The largest blooms that I grow are Hot Princess and Gemini.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 7:51PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

The flowers were gorgeous but all too rare so mine got the shovel. Enjoy yours, they look fabulous!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:01PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I love Tea Clipper. It's worth the wait.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:24PM
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andreark

On my prior posting, I said that I had just pruned Olympiad much shorter than she was. When I said that I had many new shoots, I didn't realize that these might also grow to be long scrawny canes also. I will do as you suggest and pinch them off (after they grow a bit). Thanks.

My new garden is almost ready for my standards. After being under cement for 25 years, we removed about 5 or 6 inches of soil, mixed that soil with compost and Dr. Earth Rose Soil. I was told to let it now sit for about a month before putting the new roses in. I think I am (almost) too excited to wait.

Thanks again for your help,

ak

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 10:37AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Is the rose in full (6 hrs+) sun?

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:02PM
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MissBaba

Thank you all so much!!!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 1:04AM
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Krista_5NY

Brother Cadfael can grow large and it's hard to picture it being in a container. Mine is hardy.

I grow a number of Austins in my no-spray garden setting; they are hardy, I don't cover them for winter.

Some of the Austins can be planted two feet apart, some of them grow quite large and 2 feet would be too close.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 4:26PM
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kathy9norcal

Love your photos and beautiful roses.
Some folks used to get really disturbed if you posted on the "wrong" forum (like the daylily folks always do!), but I think those grouchy folks have moved on. I don't care either way as I look at both forums here almost every day.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:15PM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Beautiful collection. My favorites: Pilarcitos, Ombree Parfait, Leda, Rook. Thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:31PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I hate to say it, but I think pappu quit posting on this forum several years ago--which is unfortunate for those of us who loved looking at his roses.

Probably the only reason his name is remembered, in fact, is because those old pictures keep getting pulled up again and again.

Pappu, if you ever browse here, please do know that you are missed--and by gardeners who weren't even posting back when you were active on this forum. We would love it if you would stop in and say "Hi" again.

Kate

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 1:52PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Check with Jeffries Nurseries in Manitoba. An old Combined Rose List shows their having it.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2013 at 11:53AM
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arne_2001

Thanks everyone.

Rogue does not ship to Canada. I checked with Jeffries. Their first response was that they only sell to greenhouses. I sent a follow up enquiry asking the names of greenhouses in my city that they sold to. They responded and I am now having Fragrant Plum shipped to me through a local greenhouse.

I guess the rest will be from Hortico. I have seen posts here that say they ship very small plants, but I guess I will see how own root grow in my area.

Or perhaps I should just relax the rest of the season as I have about thirty roses in transit that need to be planted. I'm getting pretty excited.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 11:23AM
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galiana(5a NH)

There is such a thing as a solar water pump. I'm not sure how much sun you get in Amsterdam, but if you get good sunlight for 6-8 hours and day and can find a pump that uses a small solar panel as the source of its electricity, you'd be able to suit both yourself and your husband.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 9:49PM
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Ashlie Neevel

We do get sun but our weather is often very unpredictable. It could be completely overcast and rainy for weeks at the drop of a dime lol. I will look into them. I have him talked into running electricity to the spot they will be in so that I have the option to turn it on for "special occassions" lol. Thats the first step! Next is to find out how much electricity they consume from running and try to talk him into it with numbers lol.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:15AM
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