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Here a mile and a quarter or so from the beach in Santa Monica, Dark Night has been a nice looking shrub in its first season. The foliage is dark and glossy, with no mildew, rust, or black spot yet. The blooms are occasionally stifled by high humidity, but not often enough to take away much from the overall value of the shrub. I don't catch really any fragrance though.
Jay
This post was edited by ArbutusOmnedo on Wed, Dec 18, 13 at 2:08
Thank you, arbutus, for the additional information. Sounds promising, though I'll have to research Dark Night more if I decide to put it in my Midwestern garden. I'm keeping it on my reserve list for now.
About Peter Mayle: Maryl, in my garden, Peter Mayle is not a "space-eater." In fact, it has been a rather narrow, vertical/upright bush and I've wished it would be a bit fuller on the sides. Maybe its narrowness is due to where I planted it--on the west side of my neighbor's garage (along the property line) stuffed between two bigger and more aggressive roses that maybe force Peter to grow vertically in order to get high enough to get his share of sunshine? Don't know.
Pat, Peter Mayle is a fairly good bloomer for a rose that produces the biggest, fattest blooms in the garden. Like Valencia, which produces the second biggest blooms in my garden, Peter is a bit slow on the rebloom. I think it is because it takes longer for big/fat blooming roses to make those big/fat blooms! On the other hand, nearly all my roses slow down considerably--even shut down-- when we get into hot, hot, hot August--Peter Mayle included. But when Peter (or Valencia) actually bloom, they sure can be show-stoppers, so I forgive them. LOL
Kate
Btw, that's a beautiful shot with Rhapsody in Blue and Lyda Rose. They grow similarly. And now that I'm thinking about it, there's another one that I would put in that mix if it were mine -- Golden Wings. That plant also has kind of a "fluffy" look to it, like the other two, and the color would a nice soft contrast with them.
You're welcome Bebba. Glad I could help. By the time the rust turns black, it's at the end of the cycle and may still be infectious. If you've already sprayed with something and you intend upon maintaining your garden hygeine, all you probably need to do is to do is just keep doing what you're doing. Rust this late in the season is likely nothing to worry about. Disease is, in my opinion, one way Nature "tells" the plants it's time to rest for "winter". Spraying now would probably just waste and pollute your garden needlessly. Good luck! Kim
Hi Cliff
I'm so glad you dropped by to see this tribute! I'd thought about dropping you an email to show you the ED roses in context in my own yard but I got to thinking about how huge an email that would be. Besides, I knew we had many other GW folks wanting to show off their bounty from your nursery. Like Beth, I am also loving my Andre Willemse, First Great Western, Twice in a Blue Moon, and Gilbert Becaud from you, but she has better photos than I do of most of those (particularly the lavenders). It's wonderful to look through these photos and see the striking variety of colors and textures across the different roses! Increasing that diversity is one of the many things we have to be grateful about from the ED legacy.
Seil, I admit I hadn't known that Trump Card had anything to do with Donald Trump, and I find the pun better than the man it refers to by a long shot. Not only is Trump Card a nicer color combination than Rosie O'Donnell, the latter is a name I really would have to struggle to include in my yard.
Nastarana, thanks for the reminder about Sesame Street and Buffy St. Marie. It's amazing how much of our cultural heritage is linked to shows like that from our childhood, though I hesitate to admit I only knew of that show from the kids I babysat (I was a Romper Room child myself - oooh, now that dates me).
I'm glad we've been able to get a chorus of folks posting their roses growing from Eurodesert, and now that Cliff has dropped by it's a great chance to drop him a thanks or tell of a favorite story related to one of his roses.
Cynthia
I didn't think anybody used Benomyl anymore. I am told that many years ago there was something in it that killed a lot of roses. The company never took responsibility. Anyway, I wish the researchers had tested Vegard against what people use now. I've never had powdery mildew so I don't know what they use now... but one needs to know what is available just in case.
Green Cure is an organic pesticide that works very well against PM, its active ingredient is potassium bicarbonate which is a food additive that has a GRAS designation. It is also labeled for black spot & some other problems but most rose people find that it only works well on PM.
I only have 2 floribundas: Livin Easy and Sexy Rexy. I like them both very much. I agree, the name "Sexy Rexy" is awful but the rose is really wonderful.
I am currently tearing out some lawn and putting in a new bed (this has GOT to be my last rose bed!) and I'm putting in Easy Does it. It is a very nice rose.
I generally prefer OGR's to moderns but there are some moderns I like very much.
Ah, thanks Seil. I've had reasonably good luck from others of Sheldon's roses, so I might give Strawberry Romance another try. That is, if I can work out a way to stop the "black finger of death" when I plant grafted roses - I have some new tips to try this year, so I might be buying again from Regan before long.
I couldn't tell CB was a mini, but it's lovely - testament to your photography, of course!
Cynthia
Cynthia, you have so many exquisite photos posted on several of the current threads, I can't decide on which to post my comments--my head is spinning from all the beautiful shots. I just love the artful picture of Rosenstadt Friesing, so unusual and eye catching. But the stunner is the Dames de Chenonceau with Polka overflowing in the background. It's like a cornucopia of beauty. Yum. Give us a tour of your garden, please. And thanks for posting all these photos. Diane
Paul, last I knew, is also writing for Fine Gardening. His forum hasn't been terribly active lately, but that's not all that unusual for this time of year.
Another rose expert, Hannes, might also respond.
And I second Helpmefind.com. Although when I looked up Westerland, most of the pix didn't match yours.
Lynn
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Nastarana, when I purchased Harrison's Yellow from Corn Hill 20 years ago, they did ship to the US. Several years ago, I noted that they were not shipping to the US anymore. Their current website indicates that they are once again shipping to the US. The following is copied from their "Ordering and Shipping Information" page:
US Customers, please note, due to long delays at the border we can no longer guarantee that plants arrive in good shape.
U.S. Customers
Phytosanitary fee is $15.00US and will be added to the shipping charges.
Here is a link that might be useful: Ordering and Shipping Information - Corn Hill Nursery
Thanks for the input, everyone. As tempted as I am to just stick them in the ground, I will probably just pot them up and put them in the greenhouse. We've already had a bout of unusually cold weather here in SA, so maybe we will have a few more bouts that might threaten any bands placed in the ground. It's just a matter of a few months, I guess. We prune here at the end of February, so it will probably be safe to plant them in the ground by then..... The larger plants I picked up from ARE at the beginning of the month, though, are going in the ground this week! Thanks again!
I just got in a shipment from Vintage Gardens. Some had nice think canes and really looked like they needed the 3 gallon pots. I potted these up. Others were very small with thin canes and looked like they even needed to stay in their band pots a while longer. These, I put in the greenhouse. They just looked too frail to have to deal with the colder weather we are getting. We are in the low 30's at night, sometimes down to 28. Think I will watch these carefully and let them grow in their band pots until after the holidays are over - then mix up a good potting mix and put them in gallon pots and leave them in the greenhouse, putting them out on any nice warmer days we might have. This is Texas after all - so 70 degree days in January are not out of the question. I got a shipment in a few weeks ago from Vintage - potted them all up in gallons and left them outside and some of those are even putting out a bit of new growth, so think they are fine.
In San Antonio, you all will get warmer weather quicker than I will - I think you are wise to let them stay in the greenhouse until mid/late February. Don't forget to let them acclimate to weather outside the greenhouse but putting them out a few hours a day before you get ready to plant them out. You will enjoy watching them grow in the greenhouse - I also start daylily seeds in the greenhouse during the winter.
Judith
I like Love Potion which is sort of between the two. Not as fussy as Angel Face but a better bloomer than Love Song in my garden. I bought a tree Love Song and a bush Love Song on Dr. Huey roots. The bush has flowered more, but Love Potion still out performs it. Love Song's flowers are magnificent. I'm hoping mature roots will do the trick. Angel Face has fruitier scent and Love Potion is a little sweeter. Angel Face has cute ruffly flowers and a nice shaped plant.
Don't know why my Love Songs never got going this year. I noticed the tree versions at the Huntington were kind of sleepy as well. I mean it's not even growing many leaves and stems. But when the flowers come on, they are outstanding.
I heard so many good things about Neptune. That's supposed to be a big plant. I have Enchanted Evening too. That's a pretty rose, not too big and blooms all year. I really like it.
My new Love Song (on Dr Huey) didn't bloom well for me, either...beautiful blooms in the spring, but then nothing all summer and only two blooms for it's "big" fall flush. I didn't detect any scent with mine when it did bloom. Hoping it will improve as it matures.