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a few come to mind. #1. Bought a Tropicana at Kmart for 50 cents in the early 70s, had beautiful fragrant blooms for 30 years before I lost it. #2. bought La Marne at Home Depot about 10 years ago in a two gallon pot for $1. It's always the first to bloom and blooms all summer, never has a problem with disease. Talk about the best $1 that I ever spent! #3. About 7 years ago someone pulled up a white rose by the roots to bring to a plant swap and didn't wrap it in wet newspaper or anything. Didn't know the name, it only had two little canes. I took it at the end of the swap because she was going to throw it away. Drove around all day with that poor rose in the back of a pickup in the hot sun. Put it in water that night and the next day it had perked up. So I planted it. It has been a consistent bloomer, but this year WOW! It has been covered with fragrant blooms all summer! I suspect it might be Iceberg, but haven't seen one that I can compare it to.
Would aphids do this? Shortly after I posted my message I took another look and I saw two aphids, but had not seen any before. Meanwhile I'm going to use soapy water. Sorry, I don't know how to post a picture. But I will get some help re: this. Thanks.
Stems would have to be totally encrusted with aphids for a week to cause any noticeable damage to the subsequent flower.
Freezing can cause a pebbly texture to petals, but that's impossible in midsummer.
I would dismantle the buds and look with a magnifier for small critters. This doesn't sound like damage from flower thrips, but maybe so.
I love frogs, but it's too dry around here for them--but then it's too dry for slugs, too. They all dried up and blew away. I guess they can't take having only 4.46 inches of precipitation over the past eight months. Diane
Thanks a bunch for the encouragement. Carding Mill and the 3 miniatures are all doing beautifully. They have even made some new babies (sorry, I'm mushy) since I put them into their new homes.
Since you already have experience with potted roses, can you tell me how much work it is to repot them when they need it? The miniatures don't worry me, but the Carding Mill is in a container that took 3 bags of E.B. Stone Edna's Best. (1.5 cu feet apiece). That's a lot of dirt to wrestle with. I understand that it should be done about every 3 or 4 years.
Do you do this?
thanks again,
andrea
Well...to be honest I haven't had mine 3-4 years...but as big as your pot is, I would treat it like a rose in the ground. I would prune it, shovel it along the dripline to a manageable root ball, and re-pot. If you think about transplanting a mature plant that's been in the ground, we are able to really cut through the roots and after a break the plant bounces right back.
Your container seems huge, I wouldn't really anticipate having to re-pot it. The only issue of concern to me is that over the course of several years the soil will degrade to the point where you'd almost be growing the rose hydroponically because you'd have to provide everything for it.
I've read up on this quite a bit, and it seems to me that most people only observe that container growing limits the overall size of the plant, and binding of the roots can be a concern after several years in a pot. I have noticed that miniatures outgrow their containers very quickly!
I'm putting up a greenhouse and doing a long-term study on growing roses in "smart pots" or "grow bags" instead of non-porous containers. In theory, they should never require re-potting because of the air pruning effect of these containers. We shall see...
I'm hoping some experts can give you better insight into this.
That's a shame! I agree, fire him! But don't worry because your rose will grow back. If he left you 3 feet of cane it should start to branch out again from there. There's no way to know how long it may take for that variety to return to it's former stature. It will depend a lot on the vigor of your rose but it will be beautiful once again I'm sure.
I grow Rock & Roll, but we have mild winters. Here, mine is narrow at the base and widening to about 4 to 5 feet at top. No bare knees...foliage to the ground. Beautiful blooms in the spring and fall. Here, mine will keep blooming all summer, but blooms are much smaller and they lose most of their splashes and stripes when it heats up...become mostly red with faint pink variegation. Very fragrant even in the heat, though. Blooms may keep their red and white coloring in the summer for you in your cooler zone.
Spring blooms:
And a summer one:
Rock & Roll is reliably hardy, and mostly tip hardy for me in zone 5a. It's next to Stars 'n' Stripes Forever, so it's sometimes hard to tell where one bush starts and the other stops, but both are big bushes for me - at least 5' tall and a good 4' wide if I let them. You'll like it - it's a great striped rose for cold zones.
Let me know if All American Magic overwinters for you. It wimped out totally for me once in the winter, and I'm pondering trying it again. Where did you get yours?
Cynthia
SnailLover
If your rose canes get winterkilled to or near ground level then you have no choice but to prune low to ground even in the Spring time..
But rose bushes that have winter hardy canes with not much dieback you have a choice on how much you want to prune off.
Yes, do hard pruning in the Spring...
yes, they have bloomed for me this year. I staked up some of the longer canes with these thing bamboo stakes I have....I just didn't like how they were flopping over from the weight. When would be a good time to prune the long canes back? Should I do it in the fall, or in the spring? They are still currently blooming. Thanks.
I can easily sympathize with someone being driven CRAZY by cicada song. Fortunately, I tune it out.
Now, when toads start singing all night....BREEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Arg, I've been known to go out with a flashlight & catch them in a bucket to dump them in another part of the yard. Several times a night *sigh*. Hasn't been a problem in a long time--no water. Think it would now be a welcome sound to hear them celebrating a nice rain. Funny what sounds are annoying & what sounds you just tune out.
Last time they came out, the cicada wasps did as well. They are interesting-they go into a cicada nest, captures one and takes it to her 'burrow'. Then she lays an egg on it and it lives off the cicada. Last time they were here we observed this, it was cool!
Well, I think you'll love New Dawn! I DO have a suggestion for a hardy, mostly thorn-less climber, however, and that is Felix Le Clerc. Its a new-ish one for me (I have only had it one year) so I can't tell you too much, but it IS mostly thornless and blooms a lot! Supposedly hardy to zone 3. My one hesitation is I'm not sure it'll get big enough for your pergola. Still - worth a look!
Good luck!
Best,
Frances
Thanks for posting this update! Those of us in cold zones are always looking for roses that can be beautiful as well as hardy under these conditions. I find that The McCartney rose is coming into its own in my yard in its 3rd year, and Elina has always been good for me. I've had Headliner in my wish list for some time and you're convincing me to bump it up in the plans!
Cynthia
Thank you, I'll try those suggestions for this winter. Don't need to worry much about them not being covered in snow, once it starts here... It doesn't stop until march! I'll look for the far north forum too, thank you. I think if they remaining 3 don't come back next year I'll replace with something else besides roses. Something that will survive up here :)
Do try planting the hardiest roses. Some of the Explorers are rated for zone 3.