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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

The flowers were gorgeous but all too rare so mine got the shovel. Enjoy yours, they look fabulous!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:01PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I love Tea Clipper. It's worth the wait.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:24PM
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andreark

On my prior posting, I said that I had just pruned Olympiad much shorter than she was. When I said that I had many new shoots, I didn't realize that these might also grow to be long scrawny canes also. I will do as you suggest and pinch them off (after they grow a bit). Thanks.

My new garden is almost ready for my standards. After being under cement for 25 years, we removed about 5 or 6 inches of soil, mixed that soil with compost and Dr. Earth Rose Soil. I was told to let it now sit for about a month before putting the new roses in. I think I am (almost) too excited to wait.

Thanks again for your help,

ak

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 10:37AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Is the rose in full (6 hrs+) sun?

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 6:02PM
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MissBaba

Thank you all so much!!!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 1:04AM
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Krista_5NY

Brother Cadfael can grow large and it's hard to picture it being in a container. Mine is hardy.

I grow a number of Austins in my no-spray garden setting; they are hardy, I don't cover them for winter.

Some of the Austins can be planted two feet apart, some of them grow quite large and 2 feet would be too close.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 4:26PM
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kathy9norcal

Love your photos and beautiful roses.
Some folks used to get really disturbed if you posted on the "wrong" forum (like the daylily folks always do!), but I think those grouchy folks have moved on. I don't care either way as I look at both forums here almost every day.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:15PM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Beautiful collection. My favorites: Pilarcitos, Ombree Parfait, Leda, Rook. Thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:31PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I hate to say it, but I think pappu quit posting on this forum several years ago--which is unfortunate for those of us who loved looking at his roses.

Probably the only reason his name is remembered, in fact, is because those old pictures keep getting pulled up again and again.

Pappu, if you ever browse here, please do know that you are missed--and by gardeners who weren't even posting back when you were active on this forum. We would love it if you would stop in and say "Hi" again.

Kate

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 1:52PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Check with Jeffries Nurseries in Manitoba. An old Combined Rose List shows their having it.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2013 at 11:53AM
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arne_2001

Thanks everyone.

Rogue does not ship to Canada. I checked with Jeffries. Their first response was that they only sell to greenhouses. I sent a follow up enquiry asking the names of greenhouses in my city that they sold to. They responded and I am now having Fragrant Plum shipped to me through a local greenhouse.

I guess the rest will be from Hortico. I have seen posts here that say they ship very small plants, but I guess I will see how own root grow in my area.

Or perhaps I should just relax the rest of the season as I have about thirty roses in transit that need to be planted. I'm getting pretty excited.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 11:23AM
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galiana(5a NH)

There is such a thing as a solar water pump. I'm not sure how much sun you get in Amsterdam, but if you get good sunlight for 6-8 hours and day and can find a pump that uses a small solar panel as the source of its electricity, you'd be able to suit both yourself and your husband.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 9:49PM
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Ashlie Neevel

We do get sun but our weather is often very unpredictable. It could be completely overcast and rainy for weeks at the drop of a dime lol. I will look into them. I have him talked into running electricity to the spot they will be in so that I have the option to turn it on for "special occassions" lol. Thats the first step! Next is to find out how much electricity they consume from running and try to talk him into it with numbers lol.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2013 at 3:15AM
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seil zone 6b MI

And for me I think my roses did great this winter. I did lose 2 in the ground but they were very small to begin with and the fact that the rabbis chewed them up didn't help. And a couple of the seedlings didn't make it either but otherwise everything looks really healthy.

Valerie, did you have a lot of wind this winter? From your description of the canes it sound like they were dehydrated from wind and not from freezing temps.

Things were slow to leaf out here too but that was because it was a really long, cold, cloudy spring. We really didn't get any sunshine and decent weather here until the last couple of weeks. Since then things have just jumped out and I have buds forming everywhere. I've even had a couple of blooms!

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 5:49PM
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opheliathornvt zone 5

I lost at least 2, probably 3 roses this year, plus some well-established clematis plants (one at least 6 or 7 years old). At least one of the roses was also well established. Several of my other roses, although not dead, really took a hit this winter. It was not extraordinarily cold, but we didn't have much snow, so I wondered if it was too dry for them. Normally, I might expect this if we'd had a really cold spell or two with no snow for insulation, but nothing like that happened, so I'm glad to hear that someone else had an unusual winter (although I'm not glad that you had a bad time, just that maybe it wasn't only me). I also would like to know the cause.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 9:58PM
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My Camelot is loaded!!I counted 41 buds yesterday :)
Posted by christy2828(8a) May 13, 2013
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

How wonderful to have a new beginning!! All the possibilities!! Lucky you!! You have a great husband too!
Carol

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 8:00PM
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Ashlie Neevel

pretty!!

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 9:06PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Gee, Lyn, I haven't had that happen with mine. I did test it with different soils and wetnesses to see if it worked and it seemed to be fairly accurate to me. I don't recall ever putting it in plain water though. I'll have to try that.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 5:41PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'll be disbudding some roses this year.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 8:45PM
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bluegirl_gw

I feel so stupid & unobservant :-(

But I'm going out tonight with the flashlight.

And I learned a new word :-D

    Bookmark   May 17, 2013 at 10:03PM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

bluegirl,
How do you think I feel? I've been gardening for a long time including roses and I just noticed. I think my long time prejudice for full doubles explains some of why. Also, the bugs have kept me out of the garden in the evening everywhere I've lived.

seil,
I love how you captured the closing and the color change at the same time!

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 8:01PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It sounds like a water issue to me. Unfortunately both over watering and under watering can have the same symptoms. Check down deep and make sure that your rose isn't sitting on a bed of clay that is holding to much water around the roots. Roses do not like to have their roots sit in water. After that clear out the weeds around it and take out all that dead wood in the center as well as any blackened cane and see if it comes back. Do not fertilize it because it's already stressed out. Wait for it to show some healthy new growth before you feed it.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 6:02PM
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jessaka

thanks everyone. seil. i think you are correct. it was only a week ago that i dug the dead one up and put in a different rose that died within a week after it rained for two days. (hoovb, i had the roses for 3 years. the photo of the dead canes are clippings and are no longer part of the rose bush.)

i will clean out around the bushes. perhaps even the mulch is holding in too much water.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 7:24PM
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eahamel(9a)

Here's the link from the OGR.

It could be titled "why we need roses other than Knockout".

Here is a link that might be useful: try this link

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 6:49PM
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jacqueline9CA

This article is Fantastic! It explains what happened to roses so clearly and simply - I recommend that everyone read it!

Jackie

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 7:06PM
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roseseek

I've never grown Cl. Tiffany myself, primarily because every one I have ever encountered was a TON of plant for very few flowers. Gorgeous, fragrant flowers, yes, but the bush provides significantly more bang for the buck for its plant size than the climber does in these parts. Kim

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 3:53PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Cl. Peace is iffy. I had one for 6 years and got one bloom, l mean like one single flower in six years! But my friend has one and his blooms all the time. What can I say?

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 6:06PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Wintering is going to probably be your biggest problem. In your zone I'd put it where it will get the best winter protection.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 10:36AM
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wirosarian_z4b_WI

seil....my DE has come thru my z4b area winters just fine, only gave it winter protection the first 2 years & the canes above the mulch were green so quite using mulch the last 3 years. At the most I have to clip off 6" or less of the cane tips with winter kill.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2013 at 5:33PM
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