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Well, this is a first year rose that I purchased from Hortico. Some of you know, when you get roses from Hortico and open the package, you say, "What are these twigs?" For whatever reason, these roses flourish in my awful desert soil. Old Fragrance (now 3 years old) was 7 feet tall this season. Back to CDG, it had 10 blossoms this season with good repeat and okay fragrance. I expect a better scent next season but, this being the desert, roses smell nothing like they did when I lived on the East Coast. On the plus side, no BS here as there is little humidity. I would heartily recommend this rose if you want a stunning lavender.
kstrong, great idea. I love it. It won't hurt as much if I know it went to a good home.
I'm already looking thru catalogs to figure out what to order to take the place of the discards. Of course if my cuttings all take, I'll have to leave room for them as well but probably have nothing to worry about since I've never successfully rooted a cutting.
I had a soil test done and it showed our soil already was rich in most nutrients so I usually just top dress with wood mulch & cow manure once a year or every other year.
Now I do have slight Nitrogen problems which I correct with some Alfalfa Meal when needed...
So its hard to tell about different soils unless a soil test is done.
Happy Birthday Boris and Natasha!
Thanks Diane for the help about the size of the bush. I am going to try to get mine to own root in a 15 gallon can. Fun to get a bareroot after buying bands recently. I loved the old days when the nursery got the Weeks rose shipment in and we sorted them and put them in long rows in the shadehouse.
Hoovb--I just got my Ascot from Palatine too! Along with 8 other roses. They all look to be great plants with parsnip like roots.
Diane--Thanks on the size of Ascot. Helpmefind has it as being 0.0065' to 1" high! I figured it would be a small rose (but not that small!) maybe 2 to 3 feet high. I will be sure to give it plenty of room now.
"The virus used in this study was obtained from naturally
infected plants of Rosa rugosa âÂÂCharles AlbanelâÂÂ."
This is all that I could find in the full paper. It does refer to a 2011 paper:
- Lockhart B, Zlesak D, Fetzer J (2011) Identification and partial characterization of six new viruses of cultivated roses in the USA.
Acta Hortic 901:139��"147
Since the 2011 paper has Jodi Fetzer's of the New York Botanical Garden name as one of the authors, perhaps the sample came from there. Please notice that this is only a "PERHAPS".
"Recently, we described a virus with spherical particles [8] associated with one of several new foliar diseases of rose. The virus was named Rosa rugosa leaf distortion virus (RrLDV) after the typical symptoms associated with infection by this virus. Both the disease and the virus were graft transmitted from diseased to healthy R. rugosa, suggesting that RrLDV is likely the causal agent of the disease (our unpublished results). The objectives of this study were to characterize the RrLDV genome and
determine its taxonomic and phylogenetic relationship to
known viruses."
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H.Kuska comment; I am frustrated that so many of these individual papers offer so little information of usefullness to the average rose grower. Possibly the editors pressure the authors to be as consise as possible.
Dave Zlesak has commented on a future publication that appears to be more consumer orientated.
http://www.rosebreeders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54298
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
Understood about the not pruning now. I was planning on spring for maintenance, as this is normally when I prune my roses.
I was just looking at them the other day as was thinking "hmmmm I wonder what to with them this spring." And so, I posted the question.
Thanks for all the replies!
Obviously, now isn't ideal planting time, particularly if the ground is starting to freeze like ours and it's hard to dig the holes. If you have to plant a rose this late in the season, at least it's a bare root that's dormant and hopefully can just stay dormant during the winter. In essence, you're keeping them in the deep cold condition that Palatine had them in before shipping. Mounding some soil around them helps protect the graft, and make sure you plant that graft (the knobby part with the canes growing from it) at least 2-4" below the natural soil level.
In future years, you'll have less hassle if you request that the roses be delivered in spring. Bareroot roses should be planted in whatever is early spring in your zone, as the crocus and early daffodils are blooming, if not before. For me, that's early April or in a good year, late March.
Cynthia
I don't protect anything in the ground any more, Kate. Those are on their own for the winter. The only ones I protect are the pots. They don't have the same root insulation in the pots that the ground ones have so I give them the extra leaf protection.
Although, last winter I had a bunch of seedling pots that I had culled but never actually threw away. As an experiment I let them winter on the side of the house unprotected. Remarkably about half of them survived. Some of them were already in pretty large pots but a few of them were just gallon size pots and they lived. That was both good and bad because then I didn't have the heart to toss them, lol!
OK--difference between in ground and in pots. I get it. Since all my roses are in the ground, I don't have to worry about protecting them--though my HTs aren't overly happy having to play Darwinian survival--but they pop right back after I spring-prune them down to 6-12 in. tall (occasionally even shorter, if needed).
Kate
hoovb and seil, thank you for the advice.
Caelian
That's a pretty rose. You can get some good compost and put that down in the spring. Some people here like to push straw around the plants after the ground freezes but before the snow piles up around the stems to save more green wood for spring.