22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
My feelings are you need to experiment to see what works best for you in your location...
Like here I'm finding out our soil doesn't need very
much fertilizer so I'm mainly back to top dressing with cow manure OR horse manure OR compost once every growing season or every other.
Along with using wood chip mulch...
Sometimes I add alittle alfalfa meal into the mix...
This seems to keep the earthworms happy and they
continue to loosen the soil and secrete there poop
which keeps the soil & roses happy...
So I say experiment and just be careful not to burn the roots and leaves of your roses by overfertilizing...
I usually fertilize about once a month. And I do so right up to frost. Some people will tell you to stop at least 6 weeks before your first frost but I like my roses to go into winter well fed.
Did he say what type of fertilizer he was using? Is he using that Miracle Grow hose end sprayer? That's my bet.
Henry,
The cutting off of a suspect cane only works if you catch the problem when it's on a single cane. I think a friend in Asheville may have done this for a Knock Out bush in his neighbor's KO bed this past fall. As of this spring, the bush remained healthy. (This is one of the members of Asheville Blue Ridge Rose Society who have been trying the two strikes and you're out for quite a while now at my urging.)
Something that had bothered me for the past two years was the spread of RRD within beds of KO. Some beds stayed healthy; others were almost infected randomly, but wind dispersal ISN'T random. Then I saw a yard crew working (blowing) near one of the beds I've been following and (not using a blower at home for anything) I surged into this century and thought about what damage those breezes could do.
I don't really impulse buy roses... I ponder them long and hard. I impulse buy all the other stuff that goes in the beds with them. I bought a small white dianthus and a double white lisianthus to go in my White Bed. I just got an heirloom (or a recreation of an heirloom) white carnation with that old time peppery scent to it - got 2 of them, a ruffly white one called White Rabbit, and and ride and white thing that looks surprisingly like my Rock & Roll rose! Both are supposed to become 3x3 foot plants with lots of the old peppery scent that I adore. I got scabiosa at a local nursery months ago. Then I got some plant supports online from Gardeners Supply to help hold them up because they're ALL falling over - into the driveway where they will get demolished, so they have to stand up and be safe!
Heh. The list of my impulse buys in the garden is LONG. It's just not the roses themselves.
Melinda
Honestly, all my roses have been impulse buys. I've bought..6, and only 2 of the 6 were planned. My Blue Girl was my first rose and what I planned on. Maria Stern I grabbed after a customer came through my line at Lowe's and I fell in love with her color and smell. N-Joy I grabbed after seeing her how neglected and unwanted she looked(fried buds and little leaves). Intrigue and Red Sensation(Which was supposed to be a double grafted with All American Beauty) I grabbed after seeing a new shipment come in. And Last but not least Gold Medal was my only other planned buy after MS died :(
Oh yeah, I found a miniature rose discounted at HD haha.
I'm not good about planning, you should see how crowded my patio is now hehe! But I'll blame working at Lowe's if ya'll don't mind xD
I don't have Crimson Glory, but here in Livermore I site the dark reds so that they are in shade from about 2 - 3 p.m. on and, fortunately, I have such spots. That includes Francis Dubreuil (Barcelona), Oklahoma, Mirandy, Purple Buttons, etc. Above 100 degrees, they are going to fry anyway, but this strategy at least gets them through the low to mid 90s in decent condition.
I certainly wish these website folks were as diligent as they are where I work. The site crashes or otherwise 'acts up' too often.
I have just replaced my dead mouse. Thank you all for your input.
I will have to think of another rose for that location.
I wonder if any of the miniatures can take the heat or sun a little better.
andrea
Thanks for the encouragement hoovb I know that your yard is beautiful. Wish I could have as many beautiful roses as you do. When I lived in Vista CA is was never a struggle w/the roses but here it is pretty bad. Dry, hot then freezing in the winter w/ eating bugs the size of a fifty cent piece. But I will prevail!
I only have two reds: Chrysler Imperial and Grande Amore. I am really happy with Grande Amore: the flowers are a nice form and true red. they open perfectly and last a long time. The bush is disease resistant and JP do not seem to care for the flowers. The camera just cannot capture the red as it appears in person.
Don't know if you want another climber--if so, consider Dublin Bay--true red and disease-resistant.
As for Crimson Bouquet, I gave mine away several years ago because it suffered from BS attacks after each blooming period. Remember that BS is not a big problem for many California growers, so Crimson Bouquet probably performs much better for them. But a gorgeous bright and true red when it is in bloom!
Myself, I'm taken with Grand Amore in the above pic. If my Chrysler Imperial doesn't pick up the pace a bit (slowest rebloomer in my entire garden!), I may trade it in for Grand Amore!
Kate
Some years ago, I got my Eden (own root, I assume) from Roses Unlimited--potted and ready to go in the garden soil. You might check with them--one of my favorite places.
As noted above, it is not the fastest growing climber. It also is not a heavy re-bloomer. It is, however, absolutely gorgeous when in bloom.
This spring I planted an Austin climber called The Wedgewood. Can't say too much about it yet other than it just finished a big cluster of blooms this week--those full, over-packed Austin type blooms--pale pastel pink--lovely delicates shades. It also has had no disease problems so far. I'm looking forward to this one maturing in the next couple years.
Kate
Agree with Kate. Mine does not get very tall in my zone, and it is stingy with the blooms.. I have a two year old wedgewood on an umbrella trellis and, so far it is a spindly, floppy, thing. Pretty blossoms , tho. Remember for climbers it takes a few years for them to take off. Sleeps, creeps, leaps.. Whatever rose you choose, do not expect much this year unless you find a huge mature rose...unlikely. There are so many choices. Do you need a specific color? My favorite is alchemist but it is a one timer. This is a pic of her after Mother Nature pruned her via a storm in June.
growing_rene, thanks, I can't wait to see those too! Of course I can't wait to see all of my crosses because they're my babies. About 'New Dawn' it's interesting because it's one of the few triploids I know of that will happily accept most tetraploid pollen. This leads me to assume triploid roses like New Dawn, must produce more 2n egg cells than 1n. I'll be sure to post pictures next year of all of the crosses that produce surviving seedlings. From what I hear 'Queen Elizabeth' and 'Livin Easy' produce seeds that sprout easier than most and pass on desirable traits. Breeding and growing roses from seeds is so addicting lol!
And I am in rubber shoes, moustache, coffee, and cigarette Can get pretty bad in the summer....and I am FEMALE. Lol, you guys! So funny!
Floridarose, depending on your age and physique, that would not necessarily be a bad thing.
And, OMG, don king? Lololol