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I don't have Crimson Glory, but here in Livermore I site the dark reds so that they are in shade from about 2 - 3 p.m. on and, fortunately, I have such spots. That includes Francis Dubreuil (Barcelona), Oklahoma, Mirandy, Purple Buttons, etc. Above 100 degrees, they are going to fry anyway, but this strategy at least gets them through the low to mid 90s in decent condition.

I certainly wish these website folks were as diligent as they are where I work. The site crashes or otherwise 'acts up' too often.
I have just replaced my dead mouse. Thank you all for your input.
I will have to think of another rose for that location.
I wonder if any of the miniatures can take the heat or sun a little better.
andrea


Thanks for the encouragement hoovb I know that your yard is beautiful. Wish I could have as many beautiful roses as you do. When I lived in Vista CA is was never a struggle w/the roses but here it is pretty bad. Dry, hot then freezing in the winter w/ eating bugs the size of a fifty cent piece. But I will prevail!

I only have two reds: Chrysler Imperial and Grande Amore. I am really happy with Grande Amore: the flowers are a nice form and true red. they open perfectly and last a long time. The bush is disease resistant and JP do not seem to care for the flowers. The camera just cannot capture the red as it appears in person.


Don't know if you want another climber--if so, consider Dublin Bay--true red and disease-resistant.
As for Crimson Bouquet, I gave mine away several years ago because it suffered from BS attacks after each blooming period. Remember that BS is not a big problem for many California growers, so Crimson Bouquet probably performs much better for them. But a gorgeous bright and true red when it is in bloom!
Myself, I'm taken with Grand Amore in the above pic. If my Chrysler Imperial doesn't pick up the pace a bit (slowest rebloomer in my entire garden!), I may trade it in for Grand Amore!
Kate

Some years ago, I got my Eden (own root, I assume) from Roses Unlimited--potted and ready to go in the garden soil. You might check with them--one of my favorite places.
As noted above, it is not the fastest growing climber. It also is not a heavy re-bloomer. It is, however, absolutely gorgeous when in bloom.
This spring I planted an Austin climber called The Wedgewood. Can't say too much about it yet other than it just finished a big cluster of blooms this week--those full, over-packed Austin type blooms--pale pastel pink--lovely delicates shades. It also has had no disease problems so far. I'm looking forward to this one maturing in the next couple years.
Kate

Agree with Kate. Mine does not get very tall in my zone, and it is stingy with the blooms.. I have a two year old wedgewood on an umbrella trellis and, so far it is a spindly, floppy, thing. Pretty blossoms , tho. Remember for climbers it takes a few years for them to take off. Sleeps, creeps, leaps.. Whatever rose you choose, do not expect much this year unless you find a huge mature rose...unlikely. There are so many choices. Do you need a specific color? My favorite is alchemist but it is a one timer. This is a pic of her after Mother Nature pruned her via a storm in June.




growing_rene, thanks, I can't wait to see those too! Of course I can't wait to see all of my crosses because they're my babies. About 'New Dawn' it's interesting because it's one of the few triploids I know of that will happily accept most tetraploid pollen. This leads me to assume triploid roses like New Dawn, must produce more 2n egg cells than 1n. I'll be sure to post pictures next year of all of the crosses that produce surviving seedlings. From what I hear 'Queen Elizabeth' and 'Livin Easy' produce seeds that sprout easier than most and pass on desirable traits. Breeding and growing roses from seeds is so addicting lol!


Kim's method works for me usually. Fire up that chain saw and look at the avo tree....first time that thing ever produced a fruit (but the fruit was bad so it still met the firewood pile)
St Patrick and QE have had the shovel waved at them this week. QE will loose her head first I think.

Leena, yup, that is rust. What I would do is:
1) Remove every single leaf which has those spots on it (they contain spores, and can spread to other roses) carefully - they make spore "dust" which floats all over the place. What I do is hold a brown paper bag under them so that they drop directly into it. Close the bag and dispose of it in the garbage, not your compost bin.
2) Spray the bush with a fungicide only spray (not 3 in 1,2 in 1, anything that contains food, etc - just a fungicide). Of course, follow the directions.
3) Keep watching for more rust, and repeat the above. You can and will get control of it. It can spread, as I said, to nearby roses if you don't actually remove the spore infested leaves.
Good Luck -
Jackie

You can even use your computer to tell you when to spray (it doesn't sound like it would be much of a stretch to have the computer turn the sprayer on and off!
Here is a link that might be useful: Development of a disease risk prediction model for downy mildew

Egad, you're right Kim. Just picture the mayhem if you had to run out into the street yelling - "help, the coyotes just carried off my Blessed Child". Much as we love our roses, I don't think the neighbors (or police) would understand.
Cynthia



Wow - I see what you mean, there is a huge difference, Kim. It's a beautiful rose in all its glory! Thank you so much
You're welcome! Kim