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kublakan

"When in eternal lines, to time, thou growst"

1 Like    Bookmark   Thanked by jasminerose4u, California    February 21, 2015 at 9:49AM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

I won novice queen with St. Patrick. Pacific Celebration is another one of his great roses. He will be missed, but his roses live on.

    Bookmark   February 22, 2015 at 9:08AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Here it isn't growable without a spray program. I've seen it under those conditions, and it blooms once then defoliates.

My guess is that HMF is saying it blackspots fairly badly, but is at least reasonably resistant to rust and mildew.

    Bookmark   February 21, 2015 at 8:10AM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Thank you both ! I think I'll pass on it . There's plenty of other good roses to try!

    Bookmark   February 21, 2015 at 6:49PM
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henry_kuska

The following is a 2012 PDF download report from U. California, Davis which reports finding low numbers of CNRNV infections in their Prunus species collection (Cherry 4%, peach 3.2%, and plum 2.5%). Unfortunately, they do not know the countries of origin of their infected plants.

"EVALUATION OF THE PHYTOSANITARY STATUS OF THE PRUNUS SPECIES IN THE NATIONAL CLONAL GERMPLASM REPOSITORY IN CALIFORNIA: SURVEY OF VIRUSES AND VIROIDS"

http://sipav.org/main/jpp/index.php/jpp/article/download/2464/1141

    Bookmark   February 21, 2015 at 2:35PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I think it could be correct. The pale pink looks right and the form. The darker petal edges may just be from the conditions it was growing in when it bloomed. I would wait for it to bloom again before making any decision. Make sure you get pictures of all the bloom stages and the leaves to repost then.

    Bookmark   February 21, 2015 at 12:50PM
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fig_insanity Z7a E TN

Just in case any unsuspecting soul runs across the alias for Summerstone, AUTUMNRIDGE NURSERY is the same outfit. Beware!

    Bookmark   February 21, 2015 at 12:12PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I took my hard knocks with Growquest so I am glad to be alerted to these others. Thank you!

    Bookmark   February 21, 2015 at 12:32PM
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gardenbug(8b)

I think the top one is called 'Love and Peace' I have that one and it looks exactly the same.

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 6:52PM
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gardentiller

I have two more pictures taken from the same plant. Please note they have very clear stripes. Do they look like Tropical Sunset?

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 7:45PM
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Diane Donald

s, we're a few miles apart. One day I hope to visit Florida. It sounds lovely there...and warm. I noticed that it has a bit of die-back on some of the branches from winter and just now I see new leaves are beginning to bud out. I think I can prune it back now. I am so excited that spring is on it's way and soon we'll be out enjoying the sun and our gardens again.

    Bookmark   Thanked by gardenbug    February 13, 2015 at 10:06PM
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gardenbug(8b)

I accidentally 'thanked' myself. lol

1 Like    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 7:32PM
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onewheeler(Z5 N.S.)

There are some beautiful free standing roses for your zone. I like to use garden arches to support them and add some zing to my garden but the ones I am about to list could be grown free standing or on an arch or support. Good luck with your search.

Wasagaming, Magnificia, Sympathie, William Baffin, New Dawn, John Cabot, Laguna, Viking Queen, Bonica, Teasing Georgia, Quadra. I think there are lots others but those are the only ones I can think of right now. With the earth covered in several feet of snow it is hard to imagine the garden in bloom.

Valerie

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 2:36PM
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AnneCecilia z5 MI

I gardened over 20 years in zone 4 (I only moved to a "balmy" zone 5 two years ago) and grew hundreds of roses there so here's my list of tall roses that were absolutely cane hardy year after year in zone 4:
Alba Semi-plena 7'
Canary Bird 8'
John Davis 8'
Mary Queen of Scots 7'
Morning Blush 8'
Rosa glauca 10'
Rosa villosa pomifera 6'
William Baffin 10'
Victorian Memory (aka Isabella Skinner) 12'
Hattie Burton 10'
Applejack 7'
Champagne Arches (aka Nancy Parker) 10'
Fruhlingsduft 6'
Geschwind's Schonste 6' zone 4, now 12' zone 5
Lillian Gibson 8'
Sydonie 6'
And I could probably add more that would be 5 to 6' tall if I thought about it, but those I've mentioned should give you more to look up.
Anne

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 3:46PM
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bethnorcal9

Wow Comtesse thanks!! Morning glories are a lot better than the plain old white background!

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 7:04PM
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steve_gw

I've switched to Google Chrome and added ad-block, have not seen any thus far...

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 1:08PM
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comtessedelacouche (10b S.Australia: hotdryMedclimate)

No, don't apologise, this is fun!.. As I think you can see in the Redoute painting and the photo I mentioned earlier (I'm sorry, I'm too techno-challenged to even know how to post a link!) whole new little flowers can come through the button eye; the phenomenon was known as 'childing' by early botanists (as in, making baby flowers...). I think from studying photos, etc. that the first bits of green that poke through may be sepals which can potentially surround/develop into buds of a new 'child'. There certainly seems to be a lot of feathery green action going on in some gallica/damask/centifolia examples - you can see this better in another Redoute painting: Rosa Agatha Prolifera in WikiGallery ... But I'm no expert; I've only seen it in the R. paintings and in a few photographs, and read up on it a bit.

Comtesse :¬)

1 Like    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 4:02AM
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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

I had a whole bud develop out of a My Girl flower once. I thought it was gross so I clipped the flower and tossed it. I've been curious since then if the bud could've opened into another flower. Does anyone know?

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 9:01AM
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emrogers

Cecily, you're funny! on the right side I have a yellow lady banks that is about 2 years old and she wasn't doing that great. I bought her way before the arbor and the first year I started this gardening hobby so you know walk into lowes and buy anything on sale and then get home and do research! Yup! Then on the left I have a confederate jasmine. ☺️☺️ The lady yellow banks looks so bushy and green I can't wait for it to start blooming. From what I've heard that should swallow it. We'll see. I want all year long evergreen foliage so lady yellow banks does that for me. I'll have to figure something out for more blooms throughout the year though.

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 5:20PM
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cecily(7 VA)

Good choice! Lady Banks should definitely do the job.

    Bookmark   February 20, 2015 at 4:17AM
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jacqueline9CA

Crimson Glory is the most fragrant rose I have ever had. It is a dark velvet red. Check it out!

Jackie

    Bookmark   February 18, 2015 at 10:05PM
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kittymoonbeam

This looks wonderful! I see that it has a popular climbing sport as well

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 6:49PM
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Dinglehopp3r z7A. EastTN

Thank you everyone for your replies!

Marlorena, both of those varieties are gorgeous and I haven't really heard of either, I will have to look them up, I Iove the looks of both of those photos!

After just googling "climbing Lady Hillingdon" and looking at the photos and reading through peoples' overall experience with her, I found myself swooning over this rose, and remembering why I decided to order it in the first place. Olga's photos were certainly a part of that, her specimen is just the epitome of what a romantic garden rose should look like, just absolutely stunning! So now I just HAVE to give her a go.

If she doesn't work out for me, then I will probably use either Reve d'Or or Teasing Georgia in that spot. Reve is classically gorgeous & sounds healthy and easy to train, but I do love the huge, lush blooms of TG , even though she is more of a struggle to work with, she seems very vigorous. I was thinking of using Reve in a spot along a (future) fence that is on a sidewalk (soon to be built by the city) that will have pretty heavy pedestrian traffic, so the thornlessness sounds like it might be helpful there.

I am still worried about how Cl Lady Hillingdon will fare with Tennessee's notorious late season cold snaps, but hopefully I will be skilled enough in protecting her roots/canes for her to be able to get established. She is coming from Roses Unlimited, and all I ever hear is that their plants are some of the largest 1 gal. roses purchasable from the main few internet nurseries.

We are coincidentally supposed to have a record setting low temperature tonight of -7, which seems like a game changer, as I thought I was zone 7a, but maybe I'm more like a 6b? It is a little confusing for me to figure out my little "micro climate" in particular because I live so close to the city, I feel like it is always a few degrees warmer here than it is, say at my dad's house just a couple of miles north of here & more in the country. I really should get an outdoor thermometer for my front porch, since that is where all my young potted roses are residing this winter, then I could compare the forecasted temperatures with my own and see what I come up with.

Thanks again all!

I'll post some photos later in the spring/summer!

Jessica

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 6:29PM
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kittymoonbeam

Everywhere I have seen a mature Reve d Or it's been a beauty. Also I've never seen leaf diseases on this rose.

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 6:42PM
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lollapalloo

We, new at rose gardening, have just planted Abe Darby, Golden Celebration, Shakespeare 2000, and Jude the Obscure. Thanks to all of you we dare this exciting undertaking!

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 3:52PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

All of your pictures are making me regret not ordering any Austins this year, when I make my trip to collect my order I just may have to let one in my van. I have about 10 Austins, I think I just didn't order this year as I'm tiring of the black spot war here. This one's my absolute favorite, Teaclipper. She can be stingy with the blooms at times, but I just love her.

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 4:12PM
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suebelle_neworleans

I can't imagine why a browser would make a difference, but I am glad you are able to post your gorgeous photos. I love them.
I use Firefox and I have been able to post a picture. I have not tried to post more than one yet. Hope I don't have a problem. Will try later.

Suebelle

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 1:02PM
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onewheeler(Z5 N.S.)

BEautiful photos, loved each and every one of them.

I am trying my best to get used to the new forum layout but it seems every time I log in something is different. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks. LOL

Valerie

    Bookmark   February 19, 2015 at 2:40PM
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