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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Hmmm....that does not sound good. :)
Since all of my roses are in pots - they need to be stand alone roses.
I know someone whose garden it will look fantastic in. I think I'll give it to her.
Thanks!
Carol

    Bookmark     August 2, 2013 at 12:59AM
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Campanula UK Z8

Good Idea....and well done for looking further than your usual choices - those are the times when serendipity strikes and offers up lovely surprises - all the better after taking a bit of a risk.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2013 at 5:23AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Kim's method works for me usually. Fire up that chain saw and look at the avo tree....first time that thing ever produced a fruit (but the fruit was bad so it still met the firewood pile)

St Patrick and QE have had the shovel waved at them this week. QE will loose her head first I think.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 11:56PM
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andreark

Kippy,
I just wrote a long post that this stupid site decided to delete. I wish the web people would fix these problems.

Please let me know what is wrong with your St. Patrick. Mine is (at 3 months) doing beautifully.

andrea

    Bookmark     August 2, 2013 at 12:43AM
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jacqueline9CA

Leena, yup, that is rust. What I would do is:

1) Remove every single leaf which has those spots on it (they contain spores, and can spread to other roses) carefully - they make spore "dust" which floats all over the place. What I do is hold a brown paper bag under them so that they drop directly into it. Close the bag and dispose of it in the garbage, not your compost bin.

2) Spray the bush with a fungicide only spray (not 3 in 1,2 in 1, anything that contains food, etc - just a fungicide). Of course, follow the directions.

3) Keep watching for more rust, and repeat the above. You can and will get control of it. It can spread, as I said, to nearby roses if you don't actually remove the spore infested leaves.

Good Luck -

Jackie

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 7:57PM
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leena1947

Thank you michaelg and Jackie. I will do what you have suggested, I already started picking the infected leaves. Thanks a million.
Leena

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 8:40PM
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henry_kuska

You can even use your computer to tell you when to spray (it doesn't sound like it would be much of a stretch to have the computer turn the sprayer on and off!

Here is a link that might be useful: Development of a disease risk prediction model for downy mildew

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 4:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Sheesh, that's all we need! We get enough grief over the judging now. We have one member who invariably picks an argument with a judge every year. I can't imagine how she'd react to a computer judge, lol!

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 8:02PM
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racin_rose

Edit...I missed it, it was last weekend. Boo!

This post was edited by racin_rose on Thu, Aug 1, 13 at 20:10

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 5:21PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Egad, you're right Kim. Just picture the mayhem if you had to run out into the street yelling - "help, the coyotes just carried off my Blessed Child". Much as we love our roses, I don't think the neighbors (or police) would understand.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 4:46PM
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roseseek(9)

Well, there IS that, but I also don't cherish the thought of prickles in my scrambled eggs nor having to spray my chicken breasts for Japanese Beetles or black spot! Kim

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 5:08PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

My Prospero has only one flower bud on it today, but that bud does not have long, leafy sepals. Overdeveloped sepals (for the variety) are one symptom of RRD, not necessarily definitive. I would remove the shoot and keep an eye on the little guy (one of my favorites too).

You should scout the neighborhood for infected multiflora and garden roses.

I think Henry is justified in suspecting herbicide could be involved in a "whole bed" of mini roses showing strange growth. RRD would do that only if symptoms were ignored for a couple of seasons.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 12:15PM
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Brooks23(Kentucky zone 6)

Hi michaelg, Thanks so much for looking at your Prosper. I cut that branch way back and have another bud that looks strange with the long sepal. I am going to let it grow for a few days and take another picture. I have a row of 5 Prospero and the 2 on one end look strange.
I think the bed of mini roses could have been round up damage. I don't miss them as much because it hurt my back to bend over.
Appreciate all the help.
Brooks23

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 1:07PM
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floridarosez9

Susan, I meant to say I love the edging around your beds. I think it's the most attractive I've seen.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 12:04PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Incidentally I remember reading that the common reddish "lava rock" is actually a brick-like by-product of some industry--I just can't remember what. Steel, maybe. Not that it matters, but I always wondered how it was harvested or mined and where it came from. Not volcanoes, as it turned out.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 12:56PM
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alameda/zone 8

I read the following on another post - sure hope this works out, I have missed Pickering!

Just an update on the Pickering situation..... I called Pickering 2 or 3 months ago, but don't think I posted what I learned on GW. Sorry about that. Anyway I called because I'd ordered roses from them to be shipped to friends of mine in Canada as a gift. This was to at least semi-replace my order that they couldn't ship to me in California. While I was on the phone, I asked about the future possibility of those of us in the USA getting their roses shipped to us. I was told they expect to begin shipping to the U! SA again this fall, and if I understood correctly, this coming season will be the last one for them selling grafted plants. After that they are going own-root. I didn't ask if they still planned to sell roses bareroot or if they'd be potted (or the size if they go this route).

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 1:07AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I emailed asking them to post an update on the website, but they didn't answer.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 12:05PM
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Little.lou

Also the new growth looks good. It has a bud on it but the bud seems to have a spot on it, it does look like it is going to get larger and bloom.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2013 at 9:38PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

It's possible it could be your new roses were overfertilized
from the miracle grow and that caused the problem...
And the MG soil you added around rose roots probably also had fertilizer added in to it.

What do you others think???

You may want to try using mulch around that rose
since the soil is drying and cracking...

This post was edited by jim1961 on Thu, Aug 1, 13 at 9:55

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 9:43AM
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Campanula UK Z8

Michael, a lot of these roses seem to have several names - Millie has also been Ghita and Mum in a Million, Claire has also been Liliana, Eleanor has been something else which I cannot recall, Philippa seems to have vanished off the radar but is probably just using a different name........so Clara may well be known by another name altogether.

I have my own name for them - Irritating Eyesore.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2013 at 3:41PM
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susan4952(5)

I have Sandra, a beautiful lavender. Love the color. Sorry about the fuzzy pic. She is upright,and stiff in her growth pattern

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 2:12AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

If only my Memorial Day could look like yours, Susan. Mine always has thrips damage and simply can't take our heat. Maybe things will get better in a year or two. It didn't help to transplant her this spring either. Anyway, your photo is gorgeous and that look of pink porcelain was one of the reasons I bought MD in the first place. Thanks for posting your photo. Diane

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 1:38AM
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susan4952(5)

Welcome, Diane. Glad u liked her! Funny how some roses do well for some of us and not others. Sometimes I think a few feet in location can make a huge difference. For the life of me, I cannot grow PJP 2.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2013 at 1:53AM
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bluegirl_gw

When I lived in that area, many roses defoliated during the worst heat of July & August. I kept up the watering, fed them at the beginning of Sept. & enjoyed a new flush of leaves & blooms when the weather moderated. Usually, in September, the nights start to get cooler & give the plants some relief.
Fall blooms were often the best of the year in that climate. And once the roses recovered they were beautiful into December.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2013 at 2:36PM
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nickl(Z7a NJ)

Defoliation is the plant shutting down because of stressful adverse conditions. Sometimes it's only one stress that causes it, but more usually it is a combination.

So for example, a rose being stressed by a lack of water will not need much pressure from black spot to start shutting down. Similarly, a rose stressed by an untreated black spot infection will not need much pressure from a lack of water to start shutting down.

Unfortunately, if the shut down continues for too long it can be fatal. Roses and other plants are not immortal, and they do die if conditions are adverse enough.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2013 at 4:56PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Enjoyed watching it, Dan.

Kate

    Bookmark     July 29, 2013 at 6:11PM
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mirendajean(Donegal, Ireland)

Good job Dan. I lived in Bloomington before moving over here. I was a new by then and wasn't as successful with roses. Yours are gorgeous.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2013 at 11:08AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Jessaka,

Cool on the drainage problem is fixed...

Well I also wish you the best and let us know how you make out...

    Bookmark     July 21, 2013 at 1:59PM
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jessaka

one of the bushes is greening up some. i put epson salt on all of them, about a cup each during the last rain storm, and maybe the rains helped as well.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2013 at 11:07AM
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