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Hi Lynn, what you are describing is suckering, where a sprout from the original plant comes up in the ground away from the original plant. There are two types of suckers, one that belongs to the flowering part of the plant (and would be an exact replica of the main plant) or, if your rose is grafted, it could be the root stock coming up. The Knockouts I've seen are grafted, so I believe these are the root stock coming up.
You can remove these. I don't know if it's possible to move them to another location. What you want to do is dig down where the sucker is coming up from and find the root that the sucker is attached to and try to pull it from the root. If you cut it, it will likely grow back.
Unfortunately some roses continue to sucker and these growths have to be removed periodically. Especially if they are from the root stock, which is not what you want flowering in your yard.

I wanted to give an update on my aphid situation. My order of 5,000 ladybugs arrived in the mail today and they all look healthy and alive (and quite lady-like). I waited until it was almost dark out and I sprinkled them on all of my roses. I'm hoping that at least some of them will make a permanent home in my garden and keep those nasty aphids under control:)
Maude

You certainly can't plant it in that bed! As for the mix I'd would add some potting soil myself. But I'm really not familiar with that kind of mix to know if it would be good or not.
It will probably take it a good 4 or 5 years to reach it's maximum size depending on how much winter kill you get. But you can also prune it to keep it withing bounds as needed. When you dead head between flushes just cut a little deeper to keep it shaped.

Hopefully in 4 or 5 years, I'll have a place with a nice garden that I can plant it in. I guess until then, it will live in a pot.
Adding potting soil to that particular mix would defeat the purpose of it. Al has an essay on the science behind it posted somewhere on this site, and it seems pretty sound. Since it doesn't seem like anyone has tried it for roses and met with disaster, I'll give it a shot. If worse comes to worst, I'll try again with a more conventional potting mix. I'm very curious to see how it will work out. Now I wish I had ordered two roses, for a side by side comparison.

I spoke with an arborist that I used before to remove limbs and give my yard more sunshine.....
He said that the tree is a Modesto Ash and although the roots are somewhat invasive, I don't have to be too careful about removing some of the smaller roots. He also said that I may have to give the roses a little more water and food, but if I don't mind doing that, the roses will do fine there. They are not shaded by the tree.
I am very excited about the new babies. They will be:
Francis Meilland
Marilyn Monroe
Midas Touch
Stainless Steel
Sugar Moon
Veteran's Honor and
St. Patrick
Thanks for your responses,
ak

In addition, make sure that they are watered well. Transplant "shock" often happens while the rose adjusting to the move. Depending on how much soil was kept around the root ball during the move, the feeder roots may have been damaged, and the plant needs time to grow new ones. It can take a week or more, but as long as the soil is moist, it should come back soon.

Kim's idea is perect - we have deer, and I plant every new rose inside of a "deer cage" made of wire, until the rose gets to be at least 3 feet high - then I take off the cages, because the roses are big enough to survive some grazing. Spraying with deer and/or critter repellent is also a good idea.
Moles are NOT the culprit, and I doubt that your neighbors are either - animals are much more likely. (I had a neighbor once who had a rose bush absolutely covered with buds. The next morning, all of the buds were gone. She was hysterical, thinking that "some horrible person" had meticulously cut off each bud....I convinced her that it was deer, having seen the same thing in my garden.)
Jackie


Regarding herbicide use on home lawns, you may find the following thread of interest:
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg041152454636.html
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above


Over the past 4 years, especially my first and second, my budget was SO tight. I only bought roses for less than $8, and bought many a grade #2. Honestly looking through my garden now, I can't tell the 1,s from the 1 1/2's from the 2's, and really don't remember or care which was which. I specifically remember two grade 2's I got from Orchard Supply - a Brides Dream, and a mismarked Pink Promise which ended up Pink Peace. They took a long time to mature, but they are both GORGEOUS now.


Here are my thoughts on that blurb:
By cutting back the rose, the section that had RRD could have been cut off, saving the bush. Several of us have removed a cane or canes and saved a bush from RRD.
How much bleach did he pour into the ground? I'm sure too much would have killed the rose (and anything else around it). Some bleach would have likely had no effect since it would break down to salt.
At any rate, I doubt the chlorine had any effect on the virus.






At a feed store that has poultry supplies. One brand here is "Gran-i-grit". You want the "grower" size. A lot of poultry grit is crushed oyster shell--you DON'T want that--make sure it's the granite.
Dunno if you have TSC stores up there (Tractor Supply Company), stock it, but so do most plain old feedstores.
I just recently found a good source of pine fines. Hapi-gro "landscape mix" from Lowes store (again, don't know if the chain has stores near you, but bags of fines are often sold as soil conditioners to fluff up clay soils).
Good luck.