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diane_nj 6b/7a

In addition, make sure that they are watered well. Transplant "shock" often happens while the rose adjusting to the move. Depending on how much soil was kept around the root ball during the move, the feeder roots may have been damaged, and the plant needs time to grow new ones. It can take a week or more, but as long as the soil is moist, it should come back soon.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 4:30PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Don't feed them either. They need time to adjust and grow back those feeder roots before they can take up fertilizers. They're just in transplant shock and should bounce back with some time.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 7:46PM
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jacqueline9CA

Kim's idea is perect - we have deer, and I plant every new rose inside of a "deer cage" made of wire, until the rose gets to be at least 3 feet high - then I take off the cages, because the roses are big enough to survive some grazing. Spraying with deer and/or critter repellent is also a good idea.

Moles are NOT the culprit, and I doubt that your neighbors are either - animals are much more likely. (I had a neighbor once who had a rose bush absolutely covered with buds. The next morning, all of the buds were gone. She was hysterical, thinking that "some horrible person" had meticulously cut off each bud....I convinced her that it was deer, having seen the same thing in my garden.)

Jackie

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 1:46PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I have actually seen bunnies and/or squirrels eat a healthy, well-grown, mature rose all the way to the ground. It's amazing.

Jeri

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 7:02PM
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wintercat_gw

I went through the registration process TWICE and I keep getting stuck at the "pending email confirmation" stage.

Could that be because I'm not a real human? How come HMF knows I'm a cat trying to pass itself as a real human?

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 6:55AM
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mori1(5b/6a)

I had shocking blue for one growing season. I ended up giving it away just can't stand to look at it. It was a BS magnet and no matter what I did, it just worst. Don't get me started the blooms. Good riddance!

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 4:48PM
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henry_kuska

Regarding herbicide use on home lawns, you may find the following thread of interest:

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg041152454636.html

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 3:28PM
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nummykitchen

Thank you for the link, Henry! That sounds like some awful stuff! I'm glad I did not put it on the yard! I have no pets but do have three young children!

Looks like I will be pulling.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 4:15PM
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kingcobbtx9b

Yeah I know. I figure it is mostly a #2 just because the thing only had 2 canes, but they are nice looking canes.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 1:58PM
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harmonyp

Over the past 4 years, especially my first and second, my budget was SO tight. I only bought roses for less than $8, and bought many a grade #2. Honestly looking through my garden now, I can't tell the 1,s from the 1 1/2's from the 2's, and really don't remember or care which was which. I specifically remember two grade 2's I got from Orchard Supply - a Brides Dream, and a mismarked Pink Promise which ended up Pink Peace. They took a long time to mature, but they are both GORGEOUS now.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 4:13PM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Wow, what a collection. Pictures coming soon?
Mary

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 2:20AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Groan, Ken, you are too industrious for me, lol! Congrats on getting the bed done!

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 2:00PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

Our local (Atlanta) rose show is this weekend. Nobody has roses because of the horrible weather we've been having. I might manage to get 3-4 good blooms to show.

Good Luck!

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 6:53AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

It is kind of slow here, especially compared to last year. We have two weeks, but it needs to warm up fast! Good luck this weekend Buford!

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 8:38AM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Thank you Henry for posting this article. I agree it is the most complete article about RRV I've ever read.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 7:56AM
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catsrose(VA 6)

Thanks for tracking down the source, Henry.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 6:47PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

Here are my thoughts on that blurb:

By cutting back the rose, the section that had RRD could have been cut off, saving the bush. Several of us have removed a cane or canes and saved a bush from RRD.

How much bleach did he pour into the ground? I'm sure too much would have killed the rose (and anything else around it). Some bleach would have likely had no effect since it would break down to salt.

At any rate, I doubt the chlorine had any effect on the virus.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 7:16AM
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kingcobbtx9b

Yeah but unfortunately with now having 40 roses, I am pretty much out of space for anymore. At least for now.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 12:34AM
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roseseek

Hey King, if you still have any lawn left, you have room! LOL! Kim

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 4:19AM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

And also consider adding a climbing partner. If you're doing blue/purple at the base, consider the dark velvety red flowers of Clematis 'Niobe' to intermingle with the peach colored flowers of your rose.

:-)

~Christopher

Here is a link that might be useful: Clematis 'Niobe' at HelpMeFind

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 11:39PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Hi AquaEyes, thanks very much for your idea of the Clematis 'Niobe' - I think it is a terrific idea too! Adding a clematis didn't even cross my mind.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2013 at 1:59AM
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harmonyp

I'm so happy someone got rain. On my dry hot wind blasted garden that wiped out at least half (probably a lot more) of my blooms - the post office here - about 2 miles away had about 1" of rain. And 2 miles East (me), didn't get a drop. Sigh.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 9:23AM
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minflick(9b/7, Boulder Creek, CA)

We had no rain here in Boulder Creek, but it's been overcast and cool here. Over the hill in San Jose, it's still overcast, but it's warm and muggy and not pleasant. No rain anywhere down around me that I've heard about.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 11:37PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Look very carefully at the stipules. Those are the things growing off the side of the leaf base. If it looks like it has little eyelashes, those are called fringed stipules, and are the mark of multiflora genes. They are very useful for IDing small multiflora seedings in a garden like mine where R. glauca, R. eglantaria, and other species roses seed around.

A google image search will bring up pictures.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 6:37PM
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merlcat(7a)

Thank you, mad_gallica. I know I didn't get good pictures of the stipules and should have. They looked fringed to me, which I did note the other day, though not as fringed as the ones I pulled off the other plant. I do think that it is multiflora in my head, but my heart wishes it were something else!

I planted another lavender there in front of it just an hour ago but left the seedling alone.

Would a multiflora seedling bloom this young?

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 6:46PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

A common issue with body bag roses is that newbie consumers tend to select the ones with the most new growth, whereas the best choice would be one that is still dormant (but with green canes). If a plant makes top growth without feeder roots to supply water to the leaves, it is likely to die of dehydration.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 3:27PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Michael makes a very good point. IF you're going to buy a bodybag rose, DO look for one whose canes are still plump and green, but which does not have growth sprouting. IOW -- still dormant.
The more "growth," the more stored energy has been lost.

I have stood in nurseries, and watched people grab the ones with long sprouts, crowing: "LOOK! This one's already growing."
Try telling them that's not the plant they want. It's hopeless. They aren't listening.

Jeri

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 5:27PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Pot them up. Make sure the pots are 5 gal. not 3 gal. They'll be OK for this year. They'll grow and bloom. Just put them in the ground early next spring. They should take off like crazy then.

    Bookmark   March 28, 2013 at 11:04PM
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merlcat(7a)

So I potted up my 4 bare root plants. So far so good. One is losing some leaves from underneath, turning yellow and falling off. This one is Brandy, and seemed like the most vigorous one with a jillion budeyes. Well, maybe a billion.

The rest of the plant seems okay with the top growth nice and fresh and green so I am not sweating it too much. My Peace leaves looked a little funny, but I think I read on a different thread that their leaves sometimes have a "puckered" look to them at first, so I think she is okay, too. Time will tell for both of them, I guess.

My question: I think I know where I want to have them planted in the ground. They have been growing in the pots since March 28th, when I last checked this thread.

If I now plant them in the ground, would I be risking stressing them or their roots (which I am hooping are growing!). I am pretty good at getting stuff in the ground w/o disturbing roots too much if need be.

Do I have to wait till fall? Or, since we have had such a cool, mild spring and just had a good rain, is it possible that I could transplant them now? I know nursery plants in pots start as bare root, but I am not sure how much of a root system they would have in comparison to my non-greenhouse grown potted bare roots. I'm sure mine have fewer roots, so would I be doing a bad thing to try and put them in the ground now?

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 4:44PM
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