21,401 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Our double KO's have the same type of cane problems here...

    Bookmark   April 14, 2013 at 11:12PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

This thread has info that might interest the OP of a current thread asking about black dying canes, and possible rose diseases causing this. Diane

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 3:51AM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Awww Rex is so cute. Hens are very social (so is our roo)

Chicken wire is great....for keeping chickens in.

My chicken tips:

1/2" hardware cloth anchored every few inches with screws and "washers" (beer caps work well for this)

A wire apron on the outside of the coop/run

And backyardchickens dot com

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 11:53PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
roseseek

Poor Rex! I'm so sorry the raccoon got his siblings. You just want to hug him, don't you? Congratulations on your ALmD. I hope you enjoy her! Kim

    Bookmark   May 8, 2013 at 1:20AM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

One way: there's a box at the top of a post that says "Image file to upload (optional). Click on the grey "Browse..." button. It will open up the file system on your...are we talking computer, smartphone, tablet? Say it's your computer. You click around your file system to locate the picture file you want, then double click on the picture when you find it. It will fill the empty box. Then you can post that photo.

Another way: get a free photobucket account, upload your photos to your account, then copy the "HTML" code associate with each photo and paste it into your message post.

Another way: get a free flickr or photobucket or picasa or some other photo site account, and post a link to your photo on that site.

There's a youtube video on posting a photo to a forum, via photobucket, you could have a look at that. Most forums use the IMG code for photos, but gardenweb uses the HTML code, so that bit is different...but it could give you an idea of how easy it is.

Hoping that helps!

Here is a link that might be useful: youtube video on posting pictures to a forum.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 9:34PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
zaphod42

As a younger gardener - started at 28 when we bought our house and jumped into roses a couple years later - I find this add trite and also an example of the problem as to why gardening is in decline. Options should not be sold as the 'easy' alternative because that positions everything in that realm as 'hard' or 'high maintenance' and perpetuates a stereotype. Also, my two best friends are avid gardeners and both have two small children each (the oldest being in kindergarten) and they spend every possible moment out in their gardens....with their children.

It is not the younger generation that is at fault for the decline of gardening. I would lay blame on two incredibly disparate variables. First, the housing bubble. So many people were busy buying bigger, newer homes...many without any landscaping included in cost. Many people did not realize the way new construction lawns and gardens required a lot of prep to get the soil back up to workable. Also, bigger homes...bigger yards...more money and more time. People were also more interested in the buying, getting equity, and upgrading--all in a couple years. Doesn't leave a lot of time for investment in gardens. Gardening was part of the collateral damage that was the housing boom. Second, technology is a wonderful tool for gardeners, but a major distraction for those not already invested. It also creates the mentality of a culture of immediacy. Plants take time to grow. Learning about plants takes time. You can't flick a switch or hit a button and make it bloom, but that is what we are programmed to want. - Not only the younger generation either. Don't get me started on Boomers and mobile devices. :)

Also, Boomers are a huge population chunk and they are currently in the process of simplifying, downsizing, moving into condos, etc. as their children are getting older and moving out of the house. Boomers have more buying power and money to spend than us Gen X'ers. Them getting older and opting for no-maintenance would account for a dip in garden spending as well. Just my two cents.

1 Like    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 3:54PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
Campanula UK Z8

No idea who Anthony Tesselaar is - I thought Flower Carpet roses were bred by Noack and are a really rather good cold weather rose choice. I often feel quite fed up that procumbent roses get such a poor review with words such as 'municiple', maintenance free and so on. They are really good doers- at least the european flower carpets are.
As for the ad - gah - nasty anodyne, dull. But then, I am a long way from ever being a 'southern lady'.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 6:25PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
strawchicago(zone 5a)

Hi JoshTx: It took me 1 hour to dug up Knock-out grafted on Dr. Huey. His root extended 3 feet to steal water from other flowers. Someone in Colorado commented in HMF that Dr. Huey sprang up from a spot, totally bare for the past 5 years!

Kim is right about Dr. Huey is being immortal. My neighbor poured gasoline into the roots, then covered up with a garbage can. Roundup didn't work for her.

I should had done what she did, except throw in a match.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 4:33PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

I just had the same experience with Abe Darby/Dr. Huey yesterday. Roots went straight down 3 feet! Whew! So I know how you feel. Congratulations, Beast Slayer!

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 5:06PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
joshtx(8a)

Anyone else have experience growing these?

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 1:40PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
john_ca(CA US9/SSZ14)

Josh,

I ordered Ambridge Rose and Charlotte from Chamblees around 3 years ago. There were 5 rooted cuttings of AR in a single gallon pot and 2 rooted cuttings of Charlotte in the other. We have found that many plant propagators in Texas put more than a single rooted cuttings into their pots.

We removed the rootball from the pot and soaked them in a 5 gallon bucket of water and swished them around a bit. We were able to separate the individual plants and put each of the (5 AR and 2 C) into their own one-gallon pots. We let them remain in their pots for around 2 months then transplanted them into the garden.

Plants of both varieties have done very well in our garden. The AR grew into bushy plants around 3 feet high and 2 feet across. If you prune only lightly in spring, you can coax the the plant to grow up to 5 feet high in my area. The flowers are very fragrant and are around 3.5 inches across. The color seems to vary from pink to apricot depending on temperature.

The plants of Charlotte are larger, perhaps 4 feet x 4 feet, but again, if you prune the plant only lightly, you can get it to grow taller. The flowers are pale yellow and fade to nearly white in the strong summer sun.

I have only minor disease problems with these 2 roses if we have a rainy late spring.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 1:46PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
buford(7 NE GA)

They look like normal new canes that either did not get enough sun or maybe suffered from some cold damage.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 7:01AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Freeze damage if it is widespread, or mechanical damage to the underlying cane that has interrupted moisture flow to these shoots, causing them to wilt. Check for canker, or chewed bark, or breakage.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 1:07PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Keep it well watered...

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 10:01AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
michaelg(7a NC Mts)

A gopher may have chewed the roots off, causing death by dehydration. Try rocking the plant or probing for tunnels.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 1:01PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
marquest(z5 PA)

I planted Sunny knockout in a garden for my parents. It is fragrant and it is as healthy looking as the other knockouts for 2 years. I say go for the Sunny for our zone it is a good choice.

This post was edited by marquest on Sat, May 4, 13 at 17:52

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 1:05AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
bgaviator(7)

Well I ended up finding the Easy Elegance roses. I bought three High Voltage rose bushes. I ran all over town looking for a place that carried them. Out of all the garden centers in the area, only 1 carried the Sunny Knockout. The one garden center I found the Easy Elegance told me they weren't happy with their (Sunny Knockout) performance. The Easy Elegance were expensive....I paid $27 each, but I hope they will be well worth it. They wanted $32 for the Sunny Knockouts at the other garden center! No way am I going to pay even more for a rose that doesn't seem to perform as well! I will try to post pictures later this year when they start blooming.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 11:36AM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Thanks again everyone. The older I get the more I realize how humbling life can be sometimes. I am thankful for my garden.
I am looking at it from the window today. It is grey, cool and drizzly. From my window I see iris, allium, nepeta, and the first blooms on a bunch of first year roses which I cannot identify without the tag!
I also see an empty birdfeeder, some dianthus in bloom and a bunch of hardy geranium ready to pop.
Verbena boniarensis, sea holly, daisies..chamomile.
It's really pretty. The colors pop more in the drizzle.
Susan

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 10:07AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Harmonyp that is so true. I remember the first year standing out in a windstorm trying to rebar and tie windbreaks around my roses and fretting about this and that. Nine years down the road I just run out and trim off the highest canes or wait until the next day and remove the broken ones. Roses are tough.

Susan I am sorry about your dad. I hope your garden gives you comfort and a place to renew. Mary

    Bookmark   May 7, 2013 at 12:46AM
Sign Up to comment
Pompon Blanc ParfaitDoing well
Posted by deervssteve(9) May 6, 2013
2 Comments
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
mimosamonster

nice, where did you get it?

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 10:22PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
deervssteve(9)

Most likely Pickering.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 10:37PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
henry_kuska

The following was stated: "it will not spread to surrounding roses via the root system. "

H.Kuska comment: "The above is consistent with the statement by Dr. Jim Armine in the Q and A of the Rose Rosette Webiniar: "Q: Can remaining roots from removed roses infect a new rose planted in the same spot?
No. We proved that multifora roses do not make root grafts. I have not heard of any roses that make root grafts. The threat is when the few living roots emerge from the soil and become full-sized plants, they can then become infected."

http://static.greenhousegrower.com/files/pdf/2013/Rose_Rosette_webinar _Q-A.pdf

--------------------------------------------
H.Kuska comment: A University of California Davis group has studied the spread of other viruses in roses and have reported that roses do make root grafts.

http://www.actahort.org/books/751/751_26.htm

And:
"Rose mosaic disease is often caused by Prunus necrotic ringspot virus (PNRSV) and Apple mosaic virus (ApMV). It is primarily spread by propagation; observations indicate a means of natural spread. Cuttings from two rootstocks, Rosa hybrida âÂÂDr. Hueyâ and R. multiflora âÂÂBurrâÂÂ, with and without virus were rooted and transplanted to pots. Viruses were: ApMV, PNRSV and a natural infection of ApMV + PNRSV. Treatment pots contained one virus-positive and one virus-negative plant in the same pot to permit root grafting. Control pots contained one virus-positive or one virus-negative plant; pots were arranged to allow stem contact. All virus-negative plants had a possibility of becoming infected by pollen or insect transmission. Dr. Huey included 60 virus-negative and 60 virus-positive control pots; and 120 treatment pots. R. multiflora included 20 virus-negative and 20 virus-positive control pots; and 20 treatment pots with ApMV + PNRSV. All plants were ELISA tested for 5 years. All virus-negative plants in control pots tested negative all 5 years. The percent of initially virus-negative plants in treatment pots that tested positive was 0, 5.3, 10.5, 10.5, 10.5 in Dr. Huey and 0, 12.5, 33.3, 46.7 and 46.7 in R. multiflora for years 1 to 5 respectively. All plants that became infected were potted with ApMV + PNRSV plants. Rose mosaic symptoms were observed only in plants with ApMV + PNRSV. This indicates that root grafting plays a role in spread of rose mosaic disease."

http://www.apsnet.org/meetings/Documents/2011_Meeting_Abstracts/a11ma356.htm

----------------------------------------------

Here is a link that might be useful: Q ana A from webinar

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 10:37AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
wichitagardener(6B)

Thanks for all of your replies and sharing your expertise. Here's a pic of the roses in a February snowstorm earlier this year.

I will be digging up the roots and examining the others tomorrow after work.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 10:22PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
zaphod42

I also had to prune Julia Child down to the ground. Weird.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 8:49PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
strawchicago(zone 5a)

Hi Zaphod42: Thank you for the info. I'm glad to hear that Austins fare better than Hot Cocoa.

Austins are quite deep-rooted and I don't have to water them. It's Pink Peace Hybrid Tea which I have to water here.

All my roses survive except for mini rose Norwich Sweetheart ... its roots are too tiny, and I didn't winter-protect it. I will NEVER buy mini-roses for my zone 5a ... roots are too small in my rock-hard clay.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 10:12PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
dmny(z7 NY)

Looks like the thread "Should we try Vitamin C for rose viruses" has a suspicious link.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 5:36PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

If you see a spam post or a suspicious link, click on the "contact us" at the bottom of the page and send a message to gardenweb. They'll remove the spam or link if it is indeed suspicious.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 6:18PM
Sign Up to comment
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
diane_nj 6b/7a

michaelg, Buxom Beauty isn't disease resistant in central NJ. For the OP, Mr. Lincoln isn't disease resistant here either.

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 9:28AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
JMangum(8)

I have Belinda's dream; it's a good one here in GA. Mine is about 3ft. x 3 ft. Also have Lafter (own root) and it has been very disease resistant. Mons Tillier and Maggie (OGR's) are also nice for no-spray. I have just planted several HT's grafted on Fort. Can let you know later how they fair.
Jane

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 2:14PM
Sign Up to comment
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™