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You might get a great deal of information from my favorite rose book:
"TEA ROSES: Old Roses For Warm Gardens."

See:
http://www.amazon.com/Tea-Roses-Old-Warm-Gardens/dp/187705867X

This was THE book that those of us who garden in warm climates hoped for, for years.

You might also like to visit the web sites of the Heritage Roses Group and the Gold Coast Heritage Roses Group to read articles, and to read back issues of Newsletters.

http://www.theheritagerosesgroup.org/
and
http://www.goldcoastrose.org/

You can ask questions through either website. And by all means, visit the Antique Roses forum here.

Jeri

Here is a link that might be useful: TEA ROSE BOOK

Thanks Jeri. Books about rose gardening are hard to come by here so that one's gonna be a treasure! I'll be on the lookout for it next time I go to a book store.

Thanks again for the suggestions and references!

prairiemoon, we do have more bs than you. In my garden, when a rose begins to lose leaves, if I spray with fish emulsion, new leaves pot out within a week. I use a little one quart hand sprayer.

Diane, that is one vigorous rose! What a lot of rebloom you had with it and especially for a first year. Very pretty photo.

Lainey, I'm so glad you told me that, because I've never tried that and I wouldn't have thought that you could see new foliage that quickly. I have a sprayer I use fish/seaweed emulsion with too. I'm going to have to try that. Thanks.

Carol,

I most certainly wouldn't be building the room if it wasn't for already having the materials to do so. The most expensive thing I had to purchase was a specialty thermostat.

What size are the pots you get from Costco?

Beth,

Those are some stunning roses that I am adding to my wish list.

SCG

Beth - James Biddle!!! GASP - your pictures are wonderful!!!! Oh, I'm glad I ordered it. And Lucille Ball has potential - that's great to know - I don't know much about it except that Digger Dave (once upon a time here) loved that rose. Hmmmm Anna Pavlova - so-so rose. Well, I'll give it a whirl and see who she grows. No, it's supposed to be Jessica with a "c."

SCG - Hubby says about 22" X 17" (WxH) Glad that I helped add to your addiction :)

re Boscobel. I never spray new releases (until I know how they perform), just because I'd rather not spray if I don't have to and it has remained clean. I don't think I'd call the flowers small, they're smaller than Jubilee Celibration say but bigger than Queen of Sweden. It is an interesting rose colour wise, we had a warm summer this year and it was more orange, I'm expecting it to be slightly more pink in cooler weather. I can see it becoming one of those roses grown by most people who grow austins, if that makes sense, another munstead wood.

Thank you, caldonbeck, for the additional info. on Boscobel.

I'm out of space for new roses, but just this morning thought of another open spot that could hold a smaller Austin--like Boscobel--just maybe. I'll have to mediate on this a bit, but yes, I'm responding to it like I did to Munstead Wood (which I'm mad about!).

The main thing I'm wondering about now is the orange shades in hot weather. Got lots of hot summer weather here and I'm not usually partial to orange.

Must think some more about this--but anyone who wants to add more info or pics, please do in the meantime.

Kate

The link below is very complete:

http://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/eyelid-cancer

Mine is a Basal cell carcinoma type.

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

I had basal cell skin cancer on my left cheek about 11 years ago. Took 2 operations to remove it all...
I have been careful being in the sun ever since.

But eyelid cancer sounds dreadful....on the eyelid... yeeee

I don't have the name but believe it is probably a hybrid tea rose. It has flowered since spring. When one bloom was starting to go, I cut it off and in no time there was another one came from new growth where I had cut it off. Very beautiful. I don't have a pic.

thanks. I''m glad I had not already pruned it.

As soon as you can in the spring before the new growth starts and then probably one more time. For me in CT it was mid-March.

Thank you for your informative reply's. I will start using it in the spring. Moroseaz what is Dispersul? I tried googling it and find any information.
Thanks
Garyt

Dispersul is a locally manufactured chelated sulfur product. I add it with the bone meal (phosphorus) and DPW (dried poultry waste) because each product benefits from the others in our alkaline clay soil. Our soils can range from pH 7.0 and up. If you live in an area with a lower pH average and/or your garden has been amended with humus for quite a while, you can probably get by without additional soil sulfur. A soil test, even one of the simple pH kits sold at big box stores, can usually give a fairly accurate pH of acidic to alkaline. Knowing the basic composition of your local soil can eliminate the need to guess and waste time/money. Any amendment/chemical can throw off a well-balanced growing environment and you don't want to make your gardens toxic. I can't advise you on your local soil but the Master Gardeners, rose societies and agriculture universities in your area can give you a very informative overview...Google is your friend :).

A reminder that bone meal (phosphorus) applied as a top-dressing is pretty much useless since it stays where you put it and even when put into the soil should be applied as a 'clump', not mixed with other amendments or soil. Many soils do not benefit from additional phosphorus. We also add Epsom Salts (magnesium sulfate) and chelated iron... again amendments you may not need.

I successfully overwinter :
Diana, POW, Sweetness, Easter. Basket, burgundy iceberg, majesty, ebb tide
Liv tyler, white licorice, a few I cannot remember their names..lol. These are all tree roses.
Regulars are Cherry parfait, Diana, pow, Gemini, jubilee celebration, papa meilland, lavender lassie, and a few more I cannot remember.
Roses I cannot get to survive anywhere under any circumstances are JUST Joey and PJP 2..... No matter WHAT I do! And thank goodness for the rolling plant trolleys !

SCG, hope this helps. I do love being able to nurse a zone 7 thru a zone 5 winter and see them live, year after year.
It is essential to protect the tree roses as their grafts are up in the elements. The regular HTs are just so much bigger the next year when the have less winter kill.

Hi, Prairiemoon! I didn't really know what I was buying when I bought it :) It was one of those instant gratification purchases by someone who knew nothing about roses. It is a great rose, though, extremely healthy and cheerful. Since it's right outside a room where I do all my girly things, I work on it a lot. It gets a good pruning in January and then regular deadheading throughout the Spring and Summer, which is a bit of a chore because it's so floriferous. Now if it were only fragrant... ;)

Exactly! I guess you can't have everything, all though I keep trying. :-) Beautiful rose!

Update... after all my research and having finally settled on Jens Munk we walk into Costco in September and spot five gallon Limelight hydrangeas for a killer price. So, we ended up buying 7 of those and planting my screening hedge in front of our bee hives... with veils on of course. :-) The hedge looks good, will look better in coming years, however, the look could be improved upon by a second "hedge" row of shorter roses in front of that... Jens Munk is out, too big for it... but a shorter rugosa rose, or maybe some of the shorter English roses advertised for hedging..hmmm... Choices choices...lol

Possibilities that come to mind, and assuming roses grow to a fairly predictable size in your zone 5b, are: Tamora, Munstead Wood, maybe The Prince; non Austins might include Bernstein-Rose, Easy Does It (might get too tall), Ebb Tide, or the new Carruth mini Diamond Eyes. DE's blooms are about 1 1/2 inches in diameter, but the bush is about 2 feet tall so far. Here's a pic of Diamond Eyes. Diane

Lovely bouquets!

Thanks Seil

So if it hasn't really rained in several weeks, do I still need to spray just to be safe?

Black spot can form when there hasn't been any rain in a long time if it is humid enough. I know this from experience.

Dan, how did you rule out herbicide damage?

Okay, this is just so sad. Seeing posts from Illinois with people losing roses to rrd, sad for rose lovers every where. I had already learned of rrd from reading here so when I saw that first bad cane some 15 years ago I felt like vomiting. Standing staring at it, wishing it wasn't but it was rrd. Garden was hit very hard that year losing many, many roses. Still had loses for another two years but nothing since. I also diversified after that bring in clematis and many daylilies. I absolutely need to learn how to root roses. All of mine are own root and some special to me can no longer be purchased own root. Easter Basket whlle not a big deal rose to most is just beautiful to me can't imagine being without her and no longer available own root. Last deadly virus to strike here is cucumber mosaic virus. Killed my ligularias. Vectored by the fuzzy white leaf hopper. Methods of spread (among others) hand to plant contact. Are you kidding me now sterilizing pruners between plants isn't enough. I'll always garden so what will be shall be. Pat