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susan4952(5)

Any more suggestions?

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 9:37PM
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nummykitchen

Maybe Bewitched? That one is a pretty light pink. Also Portrait looks a lot like First Prize on the HMF pictures.

Good luck!
Andrea

    Bookmark   May 6, 2013 at 7:17AM
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AHHHH! PeacePhoto 1
Posted by campv May 4, 2013
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campv

Thanks for nice compliments from both of you.
This is a chicago peace. I also have the yellow/white peace climmers on a split rail fence.
These hands are not young, they collect a SS check every month. I wear thick leather gloves EVERY time I walk out to work in the yard, which is everyday. Gardening is a passion of mine.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 6:22PM
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bluegirl_gw

I got my first Flaming Peace bloom this week--so pretty. (still need to read the camera instruction to upload pics).

I'd like a good healthy regular Peace plant, too. Should have ordered a vid plant from Vintage a long time ago.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 11:57PM
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deervssteve(9)

When I had over 100 bushes they always came back, but the deer got almost all the flowers, so what's the point.

The deer leave my lemon tree alone, so I can always make lemonade.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 7:00PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Steve,
If the deer leave your lemon tree alone, why not try putting cut lemons among your roses' canes? Or buying some lemon oil and applying that to the roses instead of smelly Liquid Fence? Who knows--it might work. I sure hope it does. Diane

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 11:08PM
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roseseek

Thanks, Strawberry. I love mint, but it's too hot and arid here for it to grow, except for well watered pots. There are ACRES of ivy used on over irrigated hill sides which foster them. There are ACRES of wild vegetation which is county/city/state owned and NEVER maintained which foster them. There are many citrus and other fruit trees all over which foster them. They're like the gophers and moles which inhabit these mountains. EVERYWHERE. My best tactic is to trap them close to the house and make them "finally useful" under some deserving rose bush.

Think twice about the terrors, Harmony. "The Stalker", who stalks ME everywhere I go, is also the "Great White Hunter". She proved it this morning by snagging the baby Towhee before I could stop her. I guess to "punish me" for taking it away from her, she then snagged the Chihuahua "evidence" before I could pick it up. She's feeling quite satisfied with herself right now. Of course, she wants to snuggle, but it's still a bit too creepy for me to think of that at the moment. I know, I'm a wuss! If anyone finds the information about how much and how often to feed them the tenderizer, please share. I'd love to stop this practice with them both, but at 6 and 8 pounds, I'm rather concerned about giving them anything which might cause any issues. They're small enough to over dose too easily.

Keep moving the trap around, Harmony. Once I no longer get any action in one spot, I put it a few yards away and fry another one. Dang! I keep this up and I may never have to buy any fertilizer again! Kim

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 3:29PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Just sprinkle a light dusting of it on their food. It does help.

Yeah -- Isn't it a shame about Mint? I have tried and tried to grow it, but it always turns up its toes and dies. Same thing here with violets which are likewise invasive elsewhere.

No, the only things that are invasive here are Morning Glory, Passion Vine, and Bermuda Grass. I guess prickly pear cactus would be, but I'm not giving it the opportunity. (We DID manage to kill the ivy. Thank God.)

Jeri

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 4:12PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Yes.

    Bookmark   April 19, 2013 at 11:52AM
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henry_kuska

The following was stated in the Q and A of the first conference:

"We found that all grafts onto multiflora rose after about the 10th of June, were negative for transmission of the virus. Something happens to stem tissue that prevents grafts from being successful after mid-June."

H.Kuska comment: was this discussed at the second conference? Also,It is my understanding that the grafts formed, but no virus was transferred. It that a correct understanding?

Here is a link that might be useful: link for Q and A

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 1:43PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Well, if it's a hundred KOs planted in the median strip, the correct advice is clearly to remove symptomatic plants. If it's a particularly valuable plant, newly symptomatic, in a garden where it will be inspected very frequently, the correct advice is to try and save it. Then there would be tweeners.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:10PM
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henry_kuska

The following was stated: "Well, if it's a hundred KOs planted in the median strip, the correct advice is clearly to remove symptomatic plants."
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H.Kuska comment. For me the above is not "clearly" at all. I would recommend first checking if the city used a herbicide on the median strip.
If the investment is as large as a 100 KOs, one could send off a sample for a PCR test.
"Our prices are subject to change, but our current fee is $25 per sample for RRV testing."

Here is a link that might be useful: link for testing (scroll down)

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:53PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Personally I think you should since you bought it directly from them. They should be held responsible for the quality of their products. As buyers, we allow them to continue the practice of using infected rootstock.

If I was not getting the recent rose as an exchange, I would not have purposely purchased it. But from walking a variety of rose fields, I see a lot of zigs and zags out there.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:07PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I agree with Seil, and I agree with Kippy. The virus is out there. It is ubiquitous. In my mild climate, it is not a death sentence for the rose (I have roses planted in 1987 which I KNOW to be virused, and which are still corking right along. I know of old plants of Ragged Robin rootstock, which are virused, and which are probably close to a century old. Doing fine.

Would I ask Austin (or any grower) for a refund?
Sure -- Why not?

I'm pretty sure a replacement PLANT would also be virused, no matter where you bought it. Still, it doesn't hurt to put them on notice that we are aware of the fact that they are selling defective merchandise.

Below, a bloom on our oldest (yes, virused) 'Sombreuil,Cl.' -- planted in 1987.

Jeri

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:41PM
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strawchicago(zone 5a)

Thank you, Henry, for helping us to understand the research and abstract. I like what you posted:

2) The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture." ... they comment about why they could not meet this postulate.

"3) The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism." .... They were not successful with graft transmission tests.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:10PM
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harmonyp

Ah - Kathy, your photo so perfectly depicts the beautiful foliage of Ingrid (as well as her gorgeous blooms of course). I'm so bloom focused I don't normally notice foliage, but Ingrid's is just so perfect it's hard not to notice (in our Zone 9 of course, and not wanting to speak to any other zones).

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 10:27AM
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harmonyp

Picture of my Ingrid:

Older photo of Chrysler Imperial as a youngster

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 10:30AM
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dutchrose71(6b)

Thank you! We are quite rainy at the moment, but I will look for spider mites when the rain is over.

I do not have a terrific camera and will try for a better picture when the rain passes- but hopefully you can see the dark area on the left leaf toward the tip.
These markings are only on the leaves at the bottom of the shrub. I had clipped the curled leaves before taking this picture, and will watch for any more to develop. Hopefully this is nothing-- I think I'm just antsy since it's my first David Austin!
Thank you again for any suggestions or advice.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:14AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Doesn't look like mites. Badly infested leaves have a gray-yellow pallor with fine stippling. It is probably nothing to worry about. Don't remove green leaves that are producing fuel for growth.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 9:43AM
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susan9santabarbara

My first thought before reading any reply was Chicago Peace.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:01AM
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lsst(7b)

Thanks for the replies!
I am going to try to propagate it.

    Bookmark   May 5, 2013 at 12:15AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

If there is doubt as to whether a cane is dead, cut off a bit and examine the cross section. With live wood, you will see a thin ring of green inner bark.

If all the canes are dead, the plant is probably dead. If there is some live wood, the plant will probably grow out in time.

Mid March is optimal for zone 6 bare-roots, but late April is not so late that you should expect widespread failure.

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 10:52AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I'm in zone 6 and I can never plant in March. The ground is still frozen. I usually can't plant until mid-April. And this year it's only just gotten warm enough the last week or so TO plant. I don't know where you are and there are a lot of different conditions that are all zone 6 but it's been very cold and very wet here this spring and everything is behind in growth. So I'd say it's no where near too late for planting.

Kate and Michael have good points about checking the canes. If they're green do what Kim suggests and they should be fine. And relax and be patient. 10 days is way too soon to be worrying. They need time to settle in and get some root growth going before you can expect to see much or any top growth.

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 10:06PM
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julia034

One last one this is the same view as the first but just waking from winters nap.

    Bookmark   May 3, 2013 at 12:18PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

I agree grass is a waste. You fertilize to make it grow then you cut it, then people spray chemicals to kill the weeds so the grass will grow more so you can cut it.

I am doing as much as I can. Because I am up in age, bad back I am doing what I can with the roses but most of mine will be fruit trees, ornamental bushes and hard scape. The roses do not like me but I am working my way through the list to see what will survive.

All you zone 5-6 people please continue to post and report what is surviving in our zone.

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 5:59PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yes, when the plants are smaller, the blooms will be smaller. (I notice, this spring, that our 5-Y-O "Old Town Novato" has never had such large blooms as it does this spring.)

They may get MUCH larger as they mature, they may have more fragrance, and probably more petals.

Frangrance is the MOST changeable thing -- altering with all sorts of changes in the plant's environment.

All in all, watching roses develop as the plants mature is a pretty interesting business. :-)

Jeri

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 4:06PM
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Krista_5NY

Newly planted roses are prone to wilting. If the buds die I prune them off, otherwise I don't remove buds.

Austins can take years to establish, and in hot summer weather the blooms can fade quickly. As the plants become established the blooms last longer.

    Bookmark   May 4, 2013 at 4:58PM
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