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Hi Andrea, thanks. I don't see any need to alternate types, unless it satisfies your sensibilities. My comment simply meant to advise against over use of either type, separately or in combination. If a Tbs per gallon every other week is good, more, or more frequently of the same concentration is likely too much.

When I could get away with using organic fertilizers (which, now due to dogs everywhere; coyotes, racoons, rats, moles and and other "vermin" in my own yard/garden I can not), I used what was locally available easily and at an efficient cost. Grow More Organic. The All Purpose 5-5-5 was just fine. I'd mix it in equal amounts with Gro Power Plus inorganic, spread it around and water it in well every month. But, all of the above mentioned "critters" absolutely ADORE all of the organic ingredients. I don't wish to deal with a growing, year old Great Pyrenees rolling in, digging up and eating the final vestiges of "garden" remaining in "his domain". (not my dog, one with whom I have to battle to keep plants looking and performing as decently as possible. Nice, friendly dog, but not "garden friendly.") The more organics I add to my own environment, the more earthworms, hence moles; the more rabbits, squirrels, rats, racoons, etc. and more coyotes. No way to prevent them as we invaded THEIR turf and they are as opportunistic as we are about it.

But, Gro More was/is still the easiest for me to obtain and its cost has always been reasonable. Kim

I was thinking of alternating because I've read that the seaweed spray is great for the leaves, but doesn't provide enough nutrients for the rest of the plant.

I am sorry you have a garden MONSTER!!! So do I. His name is Painter and I rescued him. Now I'm the one that needs rescuing. He just loves to dig up my new babies.
His last target was Eglantyne. This plant was doing great a week ago, Then he partially dug her up. I guess we'll see how tough she is in the next week or so. He didn't actually break canes, but the upheaval may have been traumatic for her. I have one perfect Airedale princess and one monster that Stephen King probably created. Oh well, He's cute.

Once again, Thanks and have a great Halloween,

andrea

In Detroit things have pretty much ground to a halt. I have some blooms out there that are sort of frozen in shape. I think if I touched them they'd just collapse, lol.

We haven't had any freezes here, but things are grinding rapidly to a halt as we approach Nov.8, the date when photosynthesis ceases in this northerly latitude since the short days of weak sun will no longer support it. Diane

I am very, very sorry about you losing your dog. People who don't have these special members of their family will never understand what it's like.

I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but I think it's unprofessional of the vet to plant assumptions in such a time of distress.

My grandmother's beagle romped the neighborhood where everyone is VERY close. One night she came back sick. She shortly thereafter died from kidney and liver failure and my grandmother was absolutely heartbroken.

A couple days later the neighbor from across the street came over to tell her he had found the radiator on one of their cars was leaking in the driveway and he had to tell her how sorry he was for not finding it sooner.

I had a dog that killed a rat that had eaten poison from the neighbors' barn (we don't use poison because it's indescriminate) and it also died.

Accidents happen. There are indeed terrible people in the world who hurt animals, but it's not always the case. I just think it's more hurtful in times like these to dwell on the idea that your pet was deliberately murdered.

Just my .02. Again, I'm terribly sorry your family is going through this. He looks like a wonderful dog.

I guess I havenâÂÂt been very clear. We live on a 100 acre family farm. Most people in the country around me donâÂÂt contain their dogs whatsoever, but we do keep ours in a fenced area about the size of a small suburban back yard if they are outside without us. When we are outside, we often let them out of their fencing to go back in the pasture with us or to the pond in our woods with us or simply to be in more of the 2 acre area we keep as our yard with us. They are allowed to run freely around those areas when we are outside as long as they stay on our property and within sight. We donâÂÂt normally have a problem with them trying to leave our property when off leash. Colt started wanting to venture farther sometimes. I donâÂÂt know whyâ¦it had not been an issue previouslyâ¦all our cats and dogs are spayed/neuteredâ¦I just donâÂÂt know why he was no longer able to be off leash. My cats have been on an invisible fence system for many years and never cross over its boundaries. They arenâÂÂt allowed outside when we arenâÂÂt out there or at night even with the invisible fence. The invisible fence wonâÂÂt protect them from animals coming into our yard, but does keep them from straying. When we started having the problem with Colt off leash back in August, we upgraded our existing invisible fence for the cats to their new Boundary Plus system which they market as virtually inescapable. We added a zone for Colt that encompassed the majority of our 2 acre âÂÂyardâ so he would have more room to roam than the âÂÂhardâ fenced area when we were outside. He escaped it for a short time this weekend and is now dead. Thanks to everyone for their concern, but I do regret I started this thread as itâÂÂs painful to keep rehashing.

Looks like Pascali is in the spotlight!

Pascali is backlit with a morning sunbeam. The other two are still in partial shade. Also, they are all wet from the rain so they glisten although you can't see it that well because I had to under expose the image.

I cut high for a small vase.

Maybe try Lagerfeld (starlight)
They are beautiful silvery lavender and smell like heaven. Stems are super long with a group of blooms on top. This rose wants to grow long stems all the time. You can pick off the side buds to get one big bloom. Cut before fully opened so they will last longer in a vase. The mature opened flowers aren't spectacular and they dont have tons of petals. But the buds opening up to halfway opened are magnificent. Worth having if you want to bring roses in and you want a fragrant lavender.

It's very healthy here. It is a slow repeater when young, but gets better and better as it gets larger and larger.

That's a beauty, view!

Love the pictures of Saint Patrick...I think I will give it another chance. Henryinct, your Moonstone is beautiful. I think Moonstone makes a great cut rose and for me, it is moderately fragrant. I was surprised to see it rated fair minus for frangrance at Help Me Find Roses. It's always nice to meet a rose in person :)

St Patrick is the best blooming yellow I have and the best holding. Back in CT with cooler temps and here earlier in the year it had that slight green tint that is so attractive but now in the heat the bloom starts medium yellow with a darker yellow center and then fades very slowly eventually almost to white. Now it is getting a bit cooler so maybe there will be the green tint again. I should say that in Z6b St Patrick was quite weak and in many winters it was killed to the ground so it never got very big. My HT's here were planted in February so I don't know how any of them will do after they get well established. Perhaps St Patrick will get really big like the rest.

I agree. I have a Belinda from Vintage that looks very similar to that.

Thanks so much! Now I have written it in ink on my rose list. No wonder it reminds me of Ballerina! Same hybridizer (Bentall), and introduced one year apart (1936 and 1937)!

Jackie

I have grown every one of those in Z6b except Joyfulness and Jadis. They're all old. I wont comment on all of them but I would say that First Prize is a waste of time because it is weak and doesn't bloom well. You'll get a few decent blooms if you're lucky. Brandy in your zone is too weak to survive although here in SoCal it is fine. You'll be doing well to keep it alive for three years. I would never grow Mikado where there is BS because it is just about the worst BS magnet I've ever seen and I used to spray a lot. Uncle Joe is also a waste if you get any rain because it balls and it is a sparse bloomer and it is weak. The one or two good blooms you do get from it will, however, be the most beautiful you have ever seen. Touch of Class is extremely strong and the blooms are perfect HT form but they tend to be puny and not attractive IMO. Paradise is a mauve with a reddish fringe which I don't find attractive but others do. It is also weak as are all mauves in Z6b. Electron is a hot pink that is fragrant and Duet is an ordinary pink that is not fragrant. Both should do OK in your zone. Keepsake and Kordes Perfecta are both pink/white blends that are attractive and should do well. I would sum this up by saying that of this lot if I were in Z6b the only ones would probably take are Touch of Class because it is so strong and possibly Bride's Dream and Royal Highness because they are beautiful and I might take Kordes Perfecta.

Thank you Henry. I'm a little disappointed that you think Brandy wouldn't do good, but appreciate the info. I know there are similar varieties. Thanks

oh ok Karolina11... I plugged in Williamsport zip code and that's how I got the zone 5b....

I experiment here... What works I keep on doing.
What does not work I quit doing ...lol

I used to mulch but I haven't for the last few years. My Grandmother and Mom never did any winter protection and their roses came back year after year just fine. If the roses is hardy for your zone, planted deep and healthy they should winter.

Kittymoon,

I just wanted to say that this will be my third bed. The beds have the top 2 feet of soil thoroughly roto-rilled, Then about 3/4 to 1 foot of the soil removed, before amending with rose soil by E.B.Stone, aged manure by E.B.Stone, and a very nice compost that I get at Navlet's in the SFO Bay area.

My soil is dark clay but not too hard. So the resulting beds seem to be popular with my roses and drain very well.

Thanks for your help,

andrea

Andreark,

Nearly all of my Austins are from Chamblee's, many of them began as one gallons purchased this spring. Here is a picture of these plants now. I nearly lost Eglantyne due to a storm tipping her over in her pot and exposing her roots. Your roses will be just fine. You can leav them in their one gallons to grow even larger, then plant them in the ground and watch them go. I too have fertile clay and can attest to the fact that the roses love it.

Chamblee's sells great quality plants. Nothing to feet about, your roses will soon be up and blooming away.

Josh