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Love the pictures of Saint Patrick...I think I will give it another chance. Henryinct, your Moonstone is beautiful. I think Moonstone makes a great cut rose and for me, it is moderately fragrant. I was surprised to see it rated fair minus for frangrance at Help Me Find Roses. It's always nice to meet a rose in person :)
St Patrick is the best blooming yellow I have and the best holding. Back in CT with cooler temps and here earlier in the year it had that slight green tint that is so attractive but now in the heat the bloom starts medium yellow with a darker yellow center and then fades very slowly eventually almost to white. Now it is getting a bit cooler so maybe there will be the green tint again. I should say that in Z6b St Patrick was quite weak and in many winters it was killed to the ground so it never got very big. My HT's here were planted in February so I don't know how any of them will do after they get well established. Perhaps St Patrick will get really big like the rest.
I have grown every one of those in Z6b except Joyfulness and Jadis. They're all old. I wont comment on all of them but I would say that First Prize is a waste of time because it is weak and doesn't bloom well. You'll get a few decent blooms if you're lucky. Brandy in your zone is too weak to survive although here in SoCal it is fine. You'll be doing well to keep it alive for three years. I would never grow Mikado where there is BS because it is just about the worst BS magnet I've ever seen and I used to spray a lot. Uncle Joe is also a waste if you get any rain because it balls and it is a sparse bloomer and it is weak. The one or two good blooms you do get from it will, however, be the most beautiful you have ever seen. Touch of Class is extremely strong and the blooms are perfect HT form but they tend to be puny and not attractive IMO. Paradise is a mauve with a reddish fringe which I don't find attractive but others do. It is also weak as are all mauves in Z6b. Electron is a hot pink that is fragrant and Duet is an ordinary pink that is not fragrant. Both should do OK in your zone. Keepsake and Kordes Perfecta are both pink/white blends that are attractive and should do well. I would sum this up by saying that of this lot if I were in Z6b the only ones would probably take are Touch of Class because it is so strong and possibly Bride's Dream and Royal Highness because they are beautiful and I might take Kordes Perfecta.
Your Mister Lincoln bloom looks great! :-)
Glad he's coming around for you...
Here is a link that might be useful: Curdle other thread about ML
Kittymoon,
I just wanted to say that this will be my third bed. The beds have the top 2 feet of soil thoroughly roto-rilled, Then about 3/4 to 1 foot of the soil removed, before amending with rose soil by E.B.Stone, aged manure by E.B.Stone, and a very nice compost that I get at Navlet's in the SFO Bay area.
My soil is dark clay but not too hard. So the resulting beds seem to be popular with my roses and drain very well.
Thanks for your help,
andrea
Andreark,
Nearly all of my Austins are from Chamblee's, many of them began as one gallons purchased this spring. Here is a picture of these plants now. I nearly lost Eglantyne due to a storm tipping her over in her pot and exposing her roots. Your roses will be just fine. You can leav them in their one gallons to grow even larger, then plant them in the ground and watch them go. I too have fertile clay and can attest to the fact that the roses love it.
Chamblee's sells great quality plants. Nothing to feet about, your roses will soon be up and blooming away.
Josh
If you want something that "pops", then you've got the right rose with Westerland, lol. "BOOM!" is more like it. I bought it thinking it was more apricot toned. Nope. It's ORANGE, at least here in TN, and orange doesn't live long in my garden (Yes, I'm a rabid Vol fan, but I don't drive an orange car, either!). I ripped it out and replaced it with its sport, Autumn Sunset, which IS apricot/gold. I love this rose. However, the canes are a bit stiff on both these roses. I grown Autumn Sunset as a large shrub, and it loves it. It's about 5'x5', and would get larger if I let it. I summer prune it to keep it in bounds. I'm not sure it would climb, but it WOULD make a nice pillar. Fairly disease free for me, but does get a touch of BS. It is in afternoon shade, and I suspect the flowers would fade in full, all day sun. It's completely cane hardy for me. Never had even a touch of dieback except on late season new fall growth.
John
I just brought my potted roses into the garage.
I bring them in when the temperature goes below -4 or -5 C. Snow doesn't matter - it's the temperature at night that makes the difference.
I water them really, really well. Then I don't water them until Jan. or so - and then only a cup a month.
I take all of the leaves off. Don't really know if that is necessary - but I like the look of the bare canes, and I theorize that the leaves can't give any stored energy to the plant.
Hope that helps. I've been overwintering my roses in the garage (50 of them) for 4 years with no losses. Any questions, I'd be glad to help. :)
Carol
Well, not all of California is blackspot free. I get a LOT of BS in spring especially if we have a lot of spring rain. Up here in Northern CA, we get winter temps (normally) as low as the 30's and at least one short snowstorm or two. I have PAUL ECKE JR in a bed in part shade, and it does ok. Not much disease that I've seen, including BS. It's not a great bloomer, but I didn't amend that bed until this spring, so it might do better next season. It's a nice rose. Probably one of my favorite singles.
Henry is just testing all of you.
Henry, As you well know RRD there is no easy answer. I have seen it a lot this year and had it on one of my minis. I am recommending for the client to remove the bushes that are showing any sign of it. I saw it at the University Of Illinois display garden and found it there and it was bad! The Horticulturist that had that part of the garden didn't even know what it was till our Rose Society Members got there and found it. Because there is a Master Gardener rose garden there they took the roses out.
To answer your question you know as well as I do there is no answer. I can have it and not see it again until two years later. It does not show up in the same area and it's always been on minis of all things!
Why has it hit your neighborhood so hard, I guess the wind currents were right. My guess is replacing them right away would result in the same thing. I'm sure not all the plant trash was cleaned up or all the roots taken out.
Yes I came over here after the shutdown!
Why not take a look at the grandaflora, Twilight Zone. I know everyone that has this rose on the east side of the smokies loves it. Plant it on 3' centers then stand back and get ready for that "WOW!!!". I have several roses of the same variety planted on 2' centers for the one huge bush affect.
Thanks Kate, I'll plan on 2 1/2 to 3, perhaps I'll ask when I pick them up at Roses Unlimited, they always give me great advice, and since I am in the same zone they can tell me how t will likely grow for me. I agree they won't be close to the house. I'm kind of excited about this idea now, I only have one other single petal rose and I've been wanting more. Thanks again
Thanks Ken, Twilight Zone is definitly a beauty. i really want to stay with red though since on my side yard I have a row of red azaleas going down the length of the driveway so I'm looking to stay with the same color in front too.
Actually, while I am no professional, Kate could be correct. It is possible your browser is inadvertently bringing up an old version of the web page or one with an error from within your cache. Regardless it won't hurt, will free up memory and is well worth a try to clear it. The more times you have an error bringing up a web page the greater the chance your browser has to pick it.
While I haven't run windows in years you used to be able to set how much memory your cache was able to use. I would set this quite low as your cache isn't nearly as important now a days as it was before high speed.
Good luck.
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