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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I said blind shoot when I should have said aborted tip. At least I believe thats what their called.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2015 at 3:22PM
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

Hey if any of you are on FaceBook, check out the page for GaGa's Garden. She just posed a beautiful picture of Above and Beyond, and she's here in IL.

    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 2:55PM
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SoFL Rose z10

Did you grow tamora?

    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 8:07AM
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SoFL Rose z10

Where did you get your Austin's on fort?

    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 8:08AM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

You only cut the laterals. I cut them down to the second leaf set, For a climber, less is more. you want to get the most flowers.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 3:53AM Thanked by pandronic
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Agree.

    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 7:44AM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

Here is a link to the thread:

Link to Thread

And here is Ken's winning Dark Knight bloom:

1 Like    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 4:09AM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Thanks

    Bookmark     May 24, 2015 at 4:28AM
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jjjjade H

OK. Thanks. good to know that

    Bookmark     May 22, 2015 at 1:42PM
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blueKYstream(6)

The pink and red knockouts have had better vigor than the sunny knockout for me. The whiteout (almost knockout) blooms as much or more than all of them, but I don't think it's quite as hardy, the bugs like it and it has slightly higher risk of PM in my experience.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 6:25PM Thanked by jjjjade H
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

Unfortunately my Neon did not make it. I saw them in Lowes, but the flowers did not look the same. I may try to get it own root.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 9:43AM
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Kez (Z7 OK)

Buford, what a shame. From the picture you posted, mine looks very similar to yours. Your comment about seeing one at Lowes that didn't look the same explains why i've seen a few pics of 'sweet vigorosa' on the internet that looked different than mine - same color maybe but not nearly as full of a flower as mine has.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 6:17PM
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Big Pink

Thanks. I did exchange them for two new plants that do look healthier - though they do have a few black stems. The guy said it is last year's growth. Obviously I'm not an experienced grower but that sounds a little wonky. Anyway, I'll give these a try. Glad to know this discussion is here for future questions.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 1:16PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

If it's easy to just prune below those parts, I don't always return them. It depends on how quickly they bounce back from the pruning. But definitely cut off any black on any you keep. They should grow to be healthy in a good spot, but you don't want any of that disease to creep down the canes, so do get rid of it.

They probably just had too little light and/or bad airflow, etc, and caught it due to something like that at the nursery.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 5:57PM
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phasedweasel(7b)

Done. I hope it doesn't spread. Belindas dream has been amazing.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 5:07PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

It looks like you might have another one there. In the pic above, the old-looking cane growing vertically to the left of your good green cane? Unless that's just fully woody and definitely very old, chop that one off, too :) It looks like maybe canker at its base, and you don't want it to creep to the good cane below it.

If it's just very old and dry, it won't hurt to leave it there, though, I don't think.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 5:51PM
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seil zone 6b MI

This is some kind of nutrient deficiency I think. I hope Michaelg takes a look. He's very good at diagnosing these things.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 12:06PM
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Kachana(DFW Zone 7)

Thanks, Seil. Now that you mentioned it, I don't think I have fertilized it. I'll wait for Michaelg's opinion before giving it some Osmocote though.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 5:00PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

Jeri, Rose Petals Nursery has it in their inventory, but it's not currently available. They seem to be doing a great job of picking up your California foundlings and getting them back into commerce.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 10:52AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I'm glad to hear that. From Cass B. to the Sacramento City Cemetery, to Cydney Wade and Rose Petals. A nice progression. It's a good rose in my part of the country, "OTN". I deadheaded it this morning. :-) And I should feed it, too.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 4:23PM
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sabalmatt_dallas(Z8 Dallas)

I grow SDLM in Dallas Tx and love it for its rebloom ability, heat tolerance and health. Few roses keep pumping out blooms during weeks or months of upper 90's to 100* highs. Mine smells like bananas & beer mixed together, but I don't have a good sniffer for the tea scents either.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 5:20AM
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moroseaz

I had SDLM for several years and it had a great fragrance. In a local public garden, they had several SDLM's and there was little or no fragrance. I often wonder if all the bushes sold as SDLM really ARE SDLM. Sadly, my SDLM gave up during one of our streaks of 110F+ weeks. When and if I grow her again, I'll keep her containered and shaded.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 12:50PM
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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Thanks. Overall, we've had cooler than normal temperatures for May, maybe that's part of the problem. Moroseaz, yours sounds lovely, I love the pictures I've seen of it, that's why I got it. I hope mine will get with the program soon.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2015 at 3:27PM
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moroseaz

Figure it's got to put out roots or it can't stand up. If you're living in a warm soil zone, it probably will take a little longer to establish than some of the shorter plants. Since it is so tall, I think of it more as an upright climber or large shrub than a hybrid tea. It gets more water, more fertilizer, more space. I do stake the huge canes so they don't break during our summer monsoon winds/dust storms.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 12:42PM
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jacqueline9CA

That is not rust. If it is mites, and you have killed them, the damaged leaves will not change - they are already damaged. Any new growth should come in without this sort of damage now.

It could also be some sort of burn. Give it plenty of water, and give it a rest from any spraying or fertilizer for a couple of months and see if the new growth looks better.

Jackie

    Bookmark     May 13, 2015 at 3:17PM
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bbarrick

Thanx all!

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 11:53AM
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henry_kuska

"clarified hydrophobic extract of neem oil" is the type that has had the azadirachtin removed.

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&authuser=0&gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&hl=en&authuser=0&q=+%22clarified+hydrophobic+extract+of+neem+oil%22

1 Like    Bookmark     May 22, 2015 at 3:54PM Thanked by altorama
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yes, functionally it is about the same thing as canola or other salad oil (which can also be used in the garden). It kills by smothering if the insect or mite is coated. It also kills the external fuzz of powdery mildew.

1 Like    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 10:08AM Thanked by altorama
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I have discovered 2 broken canes on Eden and Graham Thomas yesterday. I think it could be squirrels since they are the only animals that can get into my yard beside birds. Recently we have a lot of the brown ones, smaller than the usual grey ones, coming to our yard. I hope they stop doing it because "Dr. Jekyll" here is not happy.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 7:53AM
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zack_lau z6 CT

Using bone meal would often result in something digging up what I just planted.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2015 at 9:52AM
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