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seil zone 6b MI

Golden Celebration does spot for me but usually it only defoliates at the bottom. Mine is about 12 feet tall but would probably go higher if I let it! It has good winter hardiness so I rarely have to prune much off. Blooms well, and smells delicious.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 3:18PM
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treehugger101

Thanks for the replies! Carefree Sunshine is not fragrant. Why can't I get everything I want in one rose!!! Is that too much to ask? : )

This post was edited by treehugger100 on Mon, Apr 29, 13 at 12:36

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 12:34PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Mori, are you specifically looking for a yellow hybrid tea? If you're worried about wintering them HTs will be the most tender and suffer the most die back probably. You might want to look at some floribundas or shrubs instead. They tend to be hardier. Julia Child is one I know is hardy but there is also a new one out called Sparkle & Shine, although I don't know about it's hardiness yet.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 11:55AM
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jktx55(8a TX)

I went crazy as usual.
Strike It Rich
Wild Blue Younder
New Year
Paradise
Promise
Gold Glow
Montezuma
Blue Girl
Miss All American Beauty
Proud Land
Anastasia
Brandy
Gypsy
Fragrant Cloud
Love
Pristine
Medallion
Royal Highness
Gold Medal
Mikado
Sonia
Tropicana

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 12:20PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

If you are in Florida, you will need to spray fungicide regularly. I use Bayer Advanced Disease Control for Roses, Flowers, and Shrubs. Don't use the soil drench product.

If you are in California, you can probably get by without spraying.

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 10:57AM
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jktx55(8a TX)

Great job, its amazing when you show a TLC to roses.

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 11:50AM
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kstrong(10 So Cal)

I grow both in foggy coastal zone 10 So Cal. In my opinion, Sugar Moon is the superior rose in all respects.

That was easy.

Next?

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 11:57PM
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andreark

Sugar Moon it is!!!

Thanks to all. And to harmonyp, I love the leaves on SM. Thanks for the photo.

ak

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 10:41AM
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Missy, Traverse City, Mi Z5

I have both and I would vote for crimson bouquet. It's blooms are gorgeous, like velvet. And they last a LONG time and seem to be in continuous bloom.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 10:44PM
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andreark

Thanks for your input...

ak

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 10:35AM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

I do believe that Texas has the biggest worms. When I lived there I used to have to take a deep breath before I rescued them. I'm sure that worm will reward you for saving him. I try to do that after a rain. The favorite part of my dog's walk is eating dried up worms on the sidewalk. My husband rescues all sorts of insects and puts them out in the garden. We have some really beautiful spiders. I draw the line at saving aphids and ants. Mary

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 2:54AM
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harmonyp

Isn't everything bigger in Texas?! I used to see them when I lived in NY. Haven't noted them in this part of CA. I was a weird bug-girl as a kid. Used to love to pick up all bugs and critters, and carefully study them. Loved the worms. I still pick up snakes which I have to be careful of, as one of the last babies I picked up happened to be a rattler. Mostly just gopher snakes (my best friends) out here now fortunately.

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 9:36AM
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susan4952(5)

Where on earth did you get this beauty?

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 11:40PM
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lesmc

Just lovely! Oh,how I wish I lived in a warmer zone when I see some beauty like this!!! Your rose is beautiful. Thanks for sharing. Lesley

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 7:42AM
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susan4952(5)

My sexy rexy has more peach.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 9:55PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

yes sexy rexy is more coral. the mature blooms do not look like OLOG--too many petals. On OLOG you can see the stamens on a mature flower--at least here.

    Bookmark   April 29, 2013 at 1:16AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

SLO is sort of like Ventura and Santa Barbara counties (talking coastal strips since the OP said a half mile from the beach) Only if your in SLO but Morro and up the coast, it is can be damp and cool pretty much year round. SLO south is more like here I think usually just a couple of degrees different.

If Jeri was having issues with the plant chances are you will to. If I stop by the local nursery tomorrow, I will look at their DD and see if they carry them and how they look.

    Bookmark   April 24, 2013 at 11:29PM
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Roselover1348(8)

Update: After some major babying and some great sunshiny weather (we had been socked in with fog for for a couple weeks) my DD is now blooming. it has 8 long stemmed buds and the couple that have bloomed are beautiful and heavily scented. :) thanks for the tips and the cheerleading!

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 10:43PM
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lady banks rosesHow much space do I need to grow a Lady Banks Rose?
Posted by joannjackson1310 April 28, 2013
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fig_insanity Z7a E TN

As much as you have, and then some, lol. Seriously, she's a huge rose. You don't state where you live, but even here in zone 7a, which is somewhat inhospitable to Lady Banks, she covered half of a south facing wall, two stories high, in just two years (remind me to tell you about my worst gardening mistake). You'll need to tell us where you are, and then someone close to you can give you a better estimate, and some pruning tips. I've seen pix of her sheared back pretty harshly. She'd never go for that here, but in California where she's a rampant grower, it's a semi-common practice.

John

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 7:45PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Here in Southern California, people grow it, and prune it HARD after the spring bloom. This keeps it somewhat contained, but does lessen its impact.

There's a very old plant up the hill here from us -- Well, old for this area ... It may have been planted in the 1940's ... It is no longer pruned, but I think was pruned hard for years. It may be 10-12 ft. wide, and maybe 6 ft. high, against a rickety fence.

Jeri

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 10:43PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

You can't get rid of flower thrips. They use many different plants, weeds, and crops as hosts, so they are everywhere in the environment. Often in late spring, towards the end of the first flush of roses, they build up to the point of doing noticeable damage. Then usually they subside as predators build up. In my garden, I hardly ever notice them after the first flush. However, people in the lower South and Texas report having more trouble than I do. Some years they will be very bad, other years not so, depending on weather patterns.

Some rose varieties attract more thrips or show thrips damage worse than others. White and blush-pink roses are generally the worst. However, certain pale varieties like Quietness and Kronprinzessin Viktoria are not bothered much. Red, deep yellow, and orange roses will be fine. So one thing you can do is weed out the varieties that have the worst problem. You can ask here about susceptibility of varieties you are considering.

I don't do anything beyond that. However, the recommended chemical control is spinosad (generic name of insecticide sold under various brand names). To control thrips you would spray buds as soon as the sepals crack to show color, and again when the bud is partly open. Don't spray open flowers as that endangers pollinators. Instead perhaps you would cut buds for the vase. Don't spray unless thrips are causing problems. Spinosad is classed as a reduced risk pesticide, and it is not as hard on beneficial insects as some insecticides. Still, because spraying for thrips is not really necessary, I don't personally recommend doing it.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 11:27AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I scratch in Hi Yield granular imidocloprid around the base of the few roses I have that are terribly affected by thrips. It takes only one dose. This is a systemic insecticide and it pretty much eradicates the thrips. It's very effective. I don't spray. Spinosad doesn't work for me. I've tried it. Diane

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 6:45PM
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I forget #4Any ideas? Thanks.
Posted by deervssteve(9) April 28, 2013
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Very beautiful. Maybe one of the Austins?

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 5:29PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Serenity -- Roses are pretty forgiving. :-)

Jeri

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 2:13PM
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QuestioningSerenity(9a)

Mine have been. My first year and i've 4 beautiful roses on my patio now :) The blue girl is my first and favorite. Got it home and when it finally started budding again, it had 8!

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 2:39PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

If you have holes without worms, paper wasps probably picked them off.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 1:44PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Thanks Michael!

Wasps we have! Guessing rather full happy wasps at this point.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 1:57PM
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happyvegan(10B)

Yikes! I am glad I came back inside to check the forum! I was about to put down the fabric around the roses. I will use newspaper instead, I just got to go buy one :-)

I clipped off all of the buds except the ones you see they looked brand new. In fact one is trying to open today. But if you think they should go I will nip them off.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 12:09PM
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harmonyp

Some roses like full sun, some like partial sun. You'll see how yours does in full. But when just newly planted, the 10 hours of sun may be too much. So like catsrose mentioned, if it stays wilty, give it some temporary shade until it gets established. Mostly important is just don't let it dry out.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 12:17PM
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