22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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prickles(Los Angeles, CA)

gophers and rats?--no, only enterprising squirrels here at their little industry of farming peanuts and stones from fruits, and skunks searching for earthworms dig so deep into the rose bed that they expose some of the roots.

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Jeri, I need to invest in a few of those.

As long as a few neighbors have breeding grounds for them, they will continue to be an issue. It was only the little baby rats that used to make it in the coop. Now they are cat toys and are locked out! Varmints were digging 2 feet under pavers to get in.

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sara_ann-z6bok

And this is Buxom Beauty almost fully open.

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh!! I know I'm going to love this one!!! I like the darker edging!!!
Carol :)

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mike_rivers(z5 MI)

Karen, I haven't had much time this year to work with my roses but all six of the Kordes roses are doing fine. None of them has been sprayed and none has shown even a trace of blackspot. None of them has been watered, either, and that has probably hurt the rebloom. The three roses that most impress me with both their looks and their rebloom are Pomponella, Golden Fairy tale and Red Riding Hood. Cinderella Fairy Tale has not been especially good at rebloom but again that may be due to a lack of water. None of the roses had more than a few inches of dieback last Winter and all of the roses have canes approaching six feet. I plan to do fairly severe pruning next Spring and I suspect I will end up with fairly bushy 4 foot plants, which will suit me fine. I placed an order with Palatines for 4 more Kordes roses for Spring delivery: Pink Martini, Beverly, Poseidon and Zaide. Overall, I'm very pleased with my Kordes roses - but I'm not about to give up my Austins, either.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

As much as I admire my Kordes roses, I find they do not make my heart sing the way my Austins do.

Glad to hear your Kordes bed is doing so well.

Kate

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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Well, if you agree with this little study, you and I actually agree on something. Up here in my neck of the woods they introduce children to gardening in 1st grade. I've been told by some of the "old timers" that since the schools started doing this that the vast majority still do gardening of some sort when they are on their own (adults).

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seil zone 6b MI

I've known this a long time. Teach them early and even if they take a break for a while as busy young adults eventually they'll come back to it when they have the time.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Thanks for the explanation roseseek... I've heard of bluing but I've never seen one turn anywhere near that purple before...
Conditions must of been perfect for the effect...

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roseseek(9)

You're welcome, Jim. It's the same issue with many russet roses. Brown Velvet and Victoriana are actually brilliant orange, but when conditions are right, they "blue" and appear chocolate brown. Many other roses do it, too. Just the way the pigments age. Kim

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sara_ann-z6bok

Susan - I hope I am understanding correctly, the one on the other side of it is Double Delight and it is Forgotten Dreams. I think the one kind of in the middle, behind Double Delight is Buxom Beauty, it is fully open now and is huge. I'm sure that is as clear as mud! lol!

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susan4952(5)

Beauties, all!

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sara_ann-z6bok

Amazing what a little TLC will do. I pruned Forgotten Dreams way back this spring and this is its latest flush. I'm pleased.

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susan4952(5)

What a beauty!

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yes, I'm a semi-retired professor of English.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

amberroses,

Gee I felt warm just hearing about your 90 degrees in Florida...
It got down to 35 degrees here last night... brrrrr

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Ah, Diane - that makes sense to explain why things won't kick back in for the fall once you pass a certain point. Weak sun affecting the plant's photosynthesis must mean it can't generate enough energy to get past the bud stage even if the buds come out. Not that I've been over-blessed with buds either - it's like the roses decided they'd already met their criteria for number of blooms in the spring and they were done for the season.

Speaking of seasons in Idaho and Spokane, I noticed an interesting phenomenon this week. I was in Seattle for work, and driving in from the airport I noticed that their trees in zone 7 (or 8?) were WAY more advanced than ours in zone 5 Nebraska. Clearly that must have something to do with how far north Seattle is from us, even though it's warmer. You'd think their fall would be later, but it's not. I wonder if spring is also delayed there because of the distance north - do the tulips ever bloom past the first week of May in those climates?

Just curious - one of those minor little puzzles that distract me from wanting to kick the roses into higher gear.

Cynthia

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seil zone 6b MI

Hi, rross! You're coming into spring there so now is the time to start easing them out. Are they still in seed trays or potted up individually? In trays they are easier to take out for a few hours during the warmest part of the day. If potted find some trays to carry them in and out on. Start with just a few hours and gradually work that up to the full day of sun. If there is no longer any chance of frost at night you can also take them out and leave them. Start them out in full shade and gradually work them out to full sun. Either way they should do fine. Roses are pretty tough, even the little guys!

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rross(NSW Aust)

Thank you, Seil. I've got a shaded outdoor deck. I'll start with that.

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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Andrea while you may not have any antique roses I highly suggest the forum. While it is mostly the same people a lot great information is discussed. I learn a pile from both forums.

Have a great day :)

SCG

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andreark

Kippy,

Do you have Windows 8? I do and Chrome doesn't seem to like it. But thanks anyway.

And SCG,

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look at it.

andrea

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bare rootswhat are the best places to buy bare root hybrid teas?
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dmoore66(6 NorthWest NJ)

Diane,
What's the difference between maiden and own root?

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

The "maidens" are budded (grafted, on R. multiflora rootstock) bareroots, but you see the process of the budded variety growing early in the process. It is thoroughly described in the link.

As per Steve's page: A maiden is a rose that has been newly grafted. Unlike most grafted roses which are sold as #1 bushes, maidens are field grafted in summer, dug and shipped the same fall, a full year before most of the large growers harvest and ship their #1 grade roses.

Own root plants are cuttings taken from the variety and rooted, they are not grafted to another rootstock.

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monben(z3/4 CO)

And finally, a couple of the bushes in part shade under evergreens have these black spots......

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

If it was my place, I would weed really good around the roses and wait for spring to see what happens and then document the roses as they start blooming. Kind of looks like there might be a fun rose treasure hunt out there.

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jacqueline9CA

Yes. However, sometimes cuttings put out new leaves before they have made roots, so you need to leave it right where it is (including inside of the produce bag - keep the bag blown up so it makes a little greenhouse). I would wait another 2-3 months to make sure it has time to really make roots before I would take the bag off and transplant it into a one gallon pot. Since it is indoors where it is so dry in the WInter, after transplanting it into a pot, I would still leave it under some kind of cover - I use huge soda pop bottles with the tops cut off.

Then when Spring comes you can gradually take off the pop bottle, and put it outside in partial shade for a few days, and then into full sun. Keep it well watered, and wait one year before planting it in the ground - by then it will be big enough to survive.

Presuming it survives, it will make a fine rose, just as good as any other. It will be own-root, of course. Do you know what rose this cutting came from?

Jackie

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lainey2 VA(7a)

Love at first sight.

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teka2rjleffel(z10FL)

I'm jealous. Beautiful blooms with no thrips damage.

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