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SLO is sort of like Ventura and Santa Barbara counties (talking coastal strips since the OP said a half mile from the beach) Only if your in SLO but Morro and up the coast, it is can be damp and cool pretty much year round. SLO south is more like here I think usually just a couple of degrees different.
If Jeri was having issues with the plant chances are you will to. If I stop by the local nursery tomorrow, I will look at their DD and see if they carry them and how they look.

Update: After some major babying and some great sunshiny weather (we had been socked in with fog for for a couple weeks) my DD is now blooming. it has 8 long stemmed buds and the couple that have bloomed are beautiful and heavily scented. :) thanks for the tips and the cheerleading!

As much as you have, and then some, lol. Seriously, she's a huge rose. You don't state where you live, but even here in zone 7a, which is somewhat inhospitable to Lady Banks, she covered half of a south facing wall, two stories high, in just two years (remind me to tell you about my worst gardening mistake). You'll need to tell us where you are, and then someone close to you can give you a better estimate, and some pruning tips. I've seen pix of her sheared back pretty harshly. She'd never go for that here, but in California where she's a rampant grower, it's a semi-common practice.
John

Here in Southern California, people grow it, and prune it HARD after the spring bloom. This keeps it somewhat contained, but does lessen its impact.
There's a very old plant up the hill here from us -- Well, old for this area ... It may have been planted in the 1940's ... It is no longer pruned, but I think was pruned hard for years. It may be 10-12 ft. wide, and maybe 6 ft. high, against a rickety fence.
Jeri

You can't get rid of flower thrips. They use many different plants, weeds, and crops as hosts, so they are everywhere in the environment. Often in late spring, towards the end of the first flush of roses, they build up to the point of doing noticeable damage. Then usually they subside as predators build up. In my garden, I hardly ever notice them after the first flush. However, people in the lower South and Texas report having more trouble than I do. Some years they will be very bad, other years not so, depending on weather patterns.
Some rose varieties attract more thrips or show thrips damage worse than others. White and blush-pink roses are generally the worst. However, certain pale varieties like Quietness and Kronprinzessin Viktoria are not bothered much. Red, deep yellow, and orange roses will be fine. So one thing you can do is weed out the varieties that have the worst problem. You can ask here about susceptibility of varieties you are considering.
I don't do anything beyond that. However, the recommended chemical control is spinosad (generic name of insecticide sold under various brand names). To control thrips you would spray buds as soon as the sepals crack to show color, and again when the bud is partly open. Don't spray open flowers as that endangers pollinators. Instead perhaps you would cut buds for the vase. Don't spray unless thrips are causing problems. Spinosad is classed as a reduced risk pesticide, and it is not as hard on beneficial insects as some insecticides. Still, because spraying for thrips is not really necessary, I don't personally recommend doing it.

I scratch in Hi Yield granular imidocloprid around the base of the few roses I have that are terribly affected by thrips. It takes only one dose. This is a systemic insecticide and it pretty much eradicates the thrips. It's very effective. I don't spray. Spinosad doesn't work for me. I've tried it. Diane


Yikes! I am glad I came back inside to check the forum! I was about to put down the fabric around the roses. I will use newspaper instead, I just got to go buy one :-)
I clipped off all of the buds except the ones you see they looked brand new. In fact one is trying to open today. But if you think they should go I will nip them off.

Some roses like full sun, some like partial sun. You'll see how yours does in full. But when just newly planted, the 10 hours of sun may be too much. So like catsrose mentioned, if it stays wilty, give it some temporary shade until it gets established. Mostly important is just don't let it dry out.


Susan, I'm so sorry for what happened. I'd love it if you would post an update in a month or so. We have a few rabbits here, and I'd like to watch for your results. Most of my roses are in a fenced in yard, but I'm slowly planting more and more outside the fence too.



kittymoonbeam, Yorba Linda is correct. I'm a Ncal guy who was considering relocating to the Orange area. My wife and I were house hunting. I'm positive it's red wand.

Thank you so much for the insight. I have quite a large unheated garage with a window so I would think they will be alright. I have ordered 6 so far and plan on another 4 for the year. I think 16" pots up to 20" might give me a range so when they arrive, the pots are ready. What do you think?

I am currently renting so really have no choice but to raise all my roses in pots. I am currently in my third year and am just now moving some of them from 16 inch to 20 inch pots. I would say they are doing well--last year I lost 2 roses out of 140. I do pot them in a mix that is rather richer in compost and organic fertilizer (I use Roses Alive!) than is strictly recommended. Also, be sure to keep them very well watered. But, I actually _have_ drowned a rose--the two roses I did lose last year were within the same week, one from underwatering but the other from overwatering. It was actually not very vigourous, and I probably had it in too big of a pot for its size.


Is YL a good cut flower?---yes, he is. A nosegay of YL will last a solid 5 days for me--without my changing the water. My only compliant is the wire-thin stem trying to hold up a baseball size bloom so packed with petals that it's nearly impossible to make arrangements... maybe I need to get better vases?
And yes, he is a generous repeater--for me, in SoCa. zone 10 (b?). I don't prune him, only dead head, and after each flush I feed him a diet of compose and shirmp shells mixed in with fish skin.






Where on earth did you get this beauty?
Just lovely! Oh,how I wish I lived in a warmer zone when I see some beauty like this!!! Your rose is beautiful. Thanks for sharing. Lesley