21,402 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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susan4952(5)

Ingrid, your technique worked like a charm. Now I just hope they recover. I have used the technique on all the tender greens. Unlimited supply of thorny branches to make little Lincoln log type huts. Thanks again.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 10:48PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Susan, I'm so sorry for what happened. I'd love it if you would post an update in a month or so. We have a few rabbits here, and I'd like to watch for your results. Most of my roses are in a fenced in yard, but I'm slowly planting more and more outside the fence too.

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 7:24AM
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Terry Crawford

CPM is so sturdy it can handle clematis growing through its canes. It's even a beast here in Zone 5. Love your color combo, James!

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 9:24PM
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stickboy445

Does it matter if I spiral roses clockwise or counter clockwise?

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 6:21AM
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kittymoonbeam

Did you get this at Pixie Treasures in Yorba Linda? If so, the former owner is now in charge of roses at Roger's Gardens in Newport Beach. I'm sure she could give you the name. I'm glad the pesty deer leave this one alone.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 11:54PM
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deervssteve(9)

kittymoonbeam, Yorba Linda is correct. I'm a Ncal guy who was considering relocating to the Orange area. My wife and I were house hunting. I'm positive it's red wand.

http://www.countrysideroses.com/csr/RosePages/RedWand.html

    Bookmark   April 28, 2013 at 12:56AM
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treehugger101

Thank you so much for the insight. I have quite a large unheated garage with a window so I would think they will be alright. I have ordered 6 so far and plan on another 4 for the year. I think 16" pots up to 20" might give me a range so when they arrive, the pots are ready. What do you think?

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 8:30PM
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ksgreenman(6a)

I am currently renting so really have no choice but to raise all my roses in pots. I am currently in my third year and am just now moving some of them from 16 inch to 20 inch pots. I would say they are doing well--last year I lost 2 roses out of 140. I do pot them in a mix that is rather richer in compost and organic fertilizer (I use Roses Alive!) than is strictly recommended. Also, be sure to keep them very well watered. But, I actually _have_ drowned a rose--the two roses I did lose last year were within the same week, one from underwatering but the other from overwatering. It was actually not very vigourous, and I probably had it in too big of a pot for its size.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 9:43PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Sorry, I meant Bishop's Castle and not Bishop's Palace.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 6:37PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I think my Reine des Violettes has the best scent in my garden. Wish it bloomed more. After that probably Golden Celebration.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:29PM
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prickles(Los Angeles, CA)

Is YL a good cut flower?---yes, he is. A nosegay of YL will last a solid 5 days for me--without my changing the water. My only compliant is the wire-thin stem trying to hold up a baseball size bloom so packed with petals that it's nearly impossible to make arrangements... maybe I need to get better vases?

And yes, he is a generous repeater--for me, in SoCa. zone 10 (b?). I don't prune him, only dead head, and after each flush I feed him a diet of compose and shirmp shells mixed in with fish skin.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:16PM
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prickles(Los Angeles, CA)

oops--forget to add that the compost and shirmp shells and fish skin feed is once a month; for liquid feed, not used religiously, I give YL diluted worm tea.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:25PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Wow--I've never seen actual FIELDS of roses--impressive!

Kate

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:10PM
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seil zone 6b MI

How wonderful that you and your Mom got to spend the day together enjoying the weather and sights. Great pictures! I thought that last one was snow at first, lol.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:18PM
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I forget #3Another rose from the slope. Any ideas? Thanks.
Posted by deervssteve(9) April 27, 2013
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seil zone 6b MI

Pretty color! Looks like an Austin maybe?

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:15PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Most of the rugosa roses have vicious thorns and are impenetrable if you plant them closely enough together.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 6:18PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Clay soil is good soil, full of nutrients. Nothing wrong with clay soil except it's hard to dig.

Plant something that is going to survive your zone 6 winters. 'Mermaid' might be iffy. 'New Dawn' is an idea, gets big and and has nasty prickles, also very tough.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 6:46PM
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Kes Z 7a E Tn

How about a black spot vaccine? When roses are little bands, they are given and injection or drink that causes their little immune systems to kick into overdrive and keep them immune to the nasty stuff for the rest of their lives. Another vaccine that keeps away Japanese beetles and aphids would be nice, too.

It's pouring down rain here so a good time to check email and dream a little, too, floridarosez.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 12:02PM
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floridarosez9

Well, I don't even have that excuse. The weather is lovely down here.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 6:24PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Er, Jim, is that you to the right of the gorgeous Westerland? Beautiful rose, but I'm not sure about the person in the photo. Diane

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 12:59PM
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floridarosez9

That's one of the prettiest Westerlands I've seen.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 3:10PM
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roseseek

Jana, if you go to Help Me Find - Roses and put whatever search name you desire in the search window, it will show you all the possible entries in the database containing what you seek. you can choose from "best match" to "contains", "begins with" and "ends with" as search terms. Not only will it tell you the name of the rose, but also provide you with all the available information about it, including the latest information provided to the site about where to obtain it.

Here is a link that might be useful: Help Me Find - Roses

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 1:55PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Ok, turns out the nursery didn't have New Zealand available after all. Something about it didn't come in. So I ended up getting New Day and Love Song at the meeting. (The meeting went great, btw, we had over 40 people show up!) BUT, I found another local nursery that carries New Zealand so I'm going to pick that one up this weekend! Yegads! I've bought too many this year, lol! I think I'm up to 9 new ones already. Better start shovel pruning!

Thanks for all your help!

    Bookmark   April 26, 2013 at 6:26PM
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kittymoonbeam

You will like both of these roses. Here's a pretty New Day.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 10:40AM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Henry,
The statement should refer to the possibility of root to root transmission by subterranean grafting. The disease doesn't reside in soil, per se.

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 8:42AM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

I've heard of this before -- the "terra preta" of South America, soil made uber-fertile by pre-Columbian civilizations with the addition of charcoal and shards of pottery to the soil.

I can tell you something I remember from maintaining freshwater planted aquariums -- activated charcoal was good for removing substances from the water, but had to be changed out before those substances would begin to be re-released into the water. This worked for removing medications, tannins, phosphates, and lots of other things. But, to keep them out of the water for good, you'd have to remove the carbon from the filter after a month or two and replace it with fresh carbon.

I'm thinking that charcoal in the soil works the same way -- it binds up nutrients when they are over-abundant, preventing them from leaching out of the soil. Then they hold them like water-crystals for potting soil, gradually re-releasing them into the soil at a slower, steadier rate which matches the plants' ability to use them. The areas of terra preta in South America continue to stabilize soil nutrients to this day, hundreds of years after they were first put down.

And incidentally, the substrate I used was based on fired iron-rich clay, which supposedly was also able to sort of sponge-up nutrients from the water column and release them slowly to plants' roots over time. The iron, of course, would eventually become depleted, but that was easily solved by using liquid iron fertilizer occasionally in the aquarium water. The N-P-K was easily "sponged up" from excess fish food and fish waste in the water (aquatic plants also absorbed nutrients through their leaves directly from the water, keeping the water very clean for the fish in there).

I miss my old planted aquarium.....but I can't do it again until after grad school when I buy a home. I kept an album of how it looked over the years -- if you have Facebook, feel free to peruse the pictures. It was a 75 gallon, and all the plants were live and growing. I'd change up the layout every once in a while, and of course I had to keep pruning the rampant growth. So the look changed over the years.

:-)

~Christopher

Here is a link that might be useful: My old 75 gallon tank

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 3:20AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

Christopher, that tank was awesome! I used to have a fish tank. We keep saying that we will put up another one. But I get stuck doing all the work :) and I get really upset when the fish die. I sent you a friend request. I love to see other people's yard projects.

My husband uses real charcoal for grilling (not the briquettes). I regularly put the ashes and left over pieces in my compost pile. Last fall, we did a burn of a lot of garden waste and I have the ashes of that left over. I was going to mix it in the soil over some of my roses. I think any organic material is great. If not to 'feed' the roses, just to improve the soil. I was really happy digging around some of my roses recently. 10 years ago I started out with playdoh type clay for soil. Now, at least in the rose beds, the soil is light and fluffy like Duncan Hines German Chocolate cake mix. It's all about organic material.....

    Bookmark   April 27, 2013 at 7:59AM
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