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2,4-D is very dangerous stuff. It shouldn't be on the market at all. Here's a little of the info from Beyond Pesticides:
'Beyond Pesticides fully supports the cancellation of this dangerous pesticide which has been associated with a host of adverse human impacts, such as non-HodgkinâÂÂs lymphoma, endocrine disruption, reproductive and developmental effects, as well as water contamination and toxicity to aquatic organisms. The highly toxic chemical can be replaced by cost-competitive and effective management practices widely used in organic agriculture and lawn care. '
Here is a link that might be useful: Beyond Pesticides

This is good news!
The Houston Garden Center has a rose garden, and the gardener sprays every other week with insecticidal soap and the roses have no chili thrips. This was reported by someone in the Houston Rose Society, which sees systemic insecticides as the only treatment....

I find them glued in place by their mammas on the house window frames, tree branches, rose canes and even on the concrete retaining wall. You could use some Elmer's Glue and stick them to a tree branch where they'd be protected from being washed off by the hose or sprinklers as well as long periods of intense, direct, hot sun. You could try straight pins stuck through the bottom edge of the casing, being careful not to pierce any of the egg sacks, to pin it to a wooden stake in the garden or to a woody branch or limb.
The baby mantids do crawl all over, just like the adults do. They are excellent hunters, so I wouldn't worry about them "flying away". Kim

I've used Ornamec in my rose beds, and it worked well without affecting the roses. It only works on unwanted grass though, not broadleaf weeds. It is sold as Grass be Gone in stores. And it's the only thing that worked on the bermuda grass that grew under a 2 foot wide walkway into my rose bed.


Thank you for all the responses! I moved the seedlings. Unlike roses, sunflowers are almost effortless to grow and they're popping up in mulched areas all over the yard. We had record heat last summer and are in severe drought, so I plan to use sunflowers as shade plants wherever I can.


Yes shade cloth shelter, and making sure the soil stays moist, will reduce stress until the rose recovers. I use the handy old cylinders made of wire fencing and drape the shade cloth over that. Paired with bird netting, those cylinders are also keep the birds off the blueberry plants so we can get the fruit. The cylinders also work as rabbit guards for young plants and as composters.

Thanks all.
Surprisingly, it isn't doing as bad as it appeared that first day. I went out to water it this morning, and the leaves had perked up nicely, even in spite of our cool temperatures. Today was completely overcast, which probably has helped. I'm going to keep an eye on all of them and if they look stressed I'll probably put up some shade, but that has to wait until the weekend regardless. I leave the house by 7am, and don't get home until well after 7pm.


Good idea giving it another year.
Also though, sometimes roses just don't grow well in a particular spot. I have a spot along my fence line where I have tried to grow Julia Child, didn't grow a lick for 2 years, moved it to another spot and it is now growing like crazy.
Replaced the dirt there and tried peace. Same thing happened, it shrunk more then it grew. Moved it to the bed and it is now shooting up like crazy.
Don't know what the deal was, lots of sun, had roses growing great along the fence to the right and left, just not right there.
If you decide to change:
Depending on how dark you want--
Love Song--Great color lots of blooms light mauve.
Twilight Zone & Ebb Tide-both much darker, but lots of pretty blooms.
Stainless steel grows great for me, but is much lighter.

Ok Tammy, that seals the deal! I am officially inviting myself to your rose garden and to see those precious critters!
How much fun!
I'm down to one rabbit but it's nice having fresh poop from your own source!
Best wishes for your new property.
Susan

you can dip a cotton bud (I think you call them Q-tips) in methylated spirits (the purple stuff) and gently rub over the scale - they will loosen and you can wipe them off with a dry cloth or pry them, using a fingernail.
I get them on my lemon tree.

"Abstract Roses are incredibly diverse. It is not only about the number of cultivars (well above 25,000), but also about all possible features: colour, size, shape, growth rate, and leaf aspect. Due to these varied aspects, the system of rose classification is a very varied one: even so, some cultivars cannot be included in either category (Eckart Haenchen, M.A.S.T. 2005). As far as the flowers are concerned, some cultivars are characterised by a large number of petals, some others have fewer petals, and some have an unpleasant look because of their morphology. The most cultivated roses are scented ones and their production has turned into a real business (William Grant, 2006)."
H.Kuska comment. The actual paper appears very similar to the other.
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above




It really does remind me of a sunrise as it opens. The pale apricot margins and the deeper, warmer center. It's gorgeous. Buck shrub. Waiting on other Buck's and Comtesse du Cayla to be near each other.
It's new so I don't know much about performance. but I'm a bit obsessed with it.
Susan
And this is on a 1 gallon that is 18 inches tall!