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YUM. I've got two Heirloom body bags (which may not survive) and an heirloom own root. I will have to spot it where it doesn't fry. Can't wait for the scent. Hypnotic is what I need most days....
Also have body bag of Intrigue.
We shall see.....
And NanaDianne....I've planted two Ascots this year! and Wild Blue Yonder! and some of the other mauves. We will have to compare.
Susan

I grew it years ago but lost it. I haven't seen much discussion of it here or on the OGR forum. I suggest you contact Antique Rose Emporium, since that's the only place I've ever seen it being sold and ask them. They got it from the breeder, I think.
Here is a link that might be useful: ARE

Thanks, Clinton7719, for the input. It's good to know you got a purplish RdV from them.
:-)
Deervssteve, do you remember where you got yours? I'm wondering if you also got yours from Heirloom Roses, and if this is the growth habit I should expect from my band. The leaves on yours resemble the leaves on mine, from what I can tell in your pics.
:-)
~Christopher

Quadra
Ramblin' Red
Illusion
Red Corsair
If the spot is somewhat sheltered and forms its own little microclimate, then you might be able to get away with Amadeus. It will dieback more than the others, but is very vigorous. All have a good number of thorns.

I have Quadra, Illusion, and John Cabot. But in zone 5 S.W Ontario between Lake St. Clair and Lakr Erie..All three are totaly winter hardy for me. Quadra is a great red, but has a small repeat for me. Illusion is a surprise. I always felt it would be tender here, but has turned out to be as good as my explorers. And has a excellent repeat. All three are diease.free. John Cabot is not red, more a dark pink fushia (sp?) more a hudge shrub than a climber..


Nor for most of us, Caldonbeck. We are not rejoicing in Knockouts per se, but in the work that is leading to healthier rose *plants.* The general public will no longer buy a rose just for some all important blooms that need possibly dangerous chemicals in order to flourish.
And beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I, for one, am finding great beauty in some of the more disease resistant roses recently on the market. The rose 'Sunrise Sunset' by Ping Lim is as beautiful as any other shrub rose I've ever grown - and a lot less demanding of my time and energy to reach its potential. Star Roses' Hulthemia hybrids, i.e. the Eyeconic series are really pretty spectacular roses. I think what you are asking for, healthy roses with "at least moderate charm" is exactly what the hybridizers of today are working on. I am very excited to see what comes of this trend.


I added Dr. Nicolas to the garden two years ago, own-root plant from Vintage I believe. The flowers are beautiful and full and a delicious shade of pink ... the plant itself was the victim of a particularly vicious rabbit attack, and it spent the summer trying to recover. I ordered a budded Dr. Nicolas from Pickering last fall, in case I have to replace my original plant. The original plant seems to be doing well, and the new plant is in a pot right now. We'll see how things go over the summer.
Dr. Nicolas isn't particularly BS resistant, but it's not a disease-ridden eye sore either.
Last year, an older woman visiting the garden told me that her mother grew Dr. Nicolas and she was thrilled to see it in my garden.
It would be nice if we could delete the above posts which make reference to 'Dr. W. Van Fleet' (the sport parent of New Dawn, and a very nice rose in its own right) so we don't completely confuse new-comers. Since we can't, I'll just repeat the fact that Dr. Nicolas is not related to New Dawn and the two roses are not at all similar.
Connie


Mauvegirl8 -- these are not "named" roses. They have not been registered and are not for sale anywhere. These are the products of his own breeding program where he has taken pollen from one rose, applied it to the stamens of another, allowed the hips to ripen and then raised the resulting roses from those seeds.
Here is a link that might be useful: ARS Powerpoint on how to breed roses




I personally think they finally spent money on some rose food. The roses were kinda spindly before the winter pruning and mulching. I didn't see any manure, just wood mulch so I am thinking these fat canes and flowers are from some first rate rose food. I'm glad that they can finally spend some money on rose food as they have spent all the money previously on new buildings, galleries and the Chinese garden. Poor roses finally getting some love. They haven't looked this good in years.

I saw some hard clipped ivy borders in Denmark for rose beds and it looked great. I think they are much cooler with clouds though and it wouldn't be as nice in San Marino. This last week has been dream rose weather. Cool and overcast with a little late day sun. Those blooms got the benefit and are really oversized right now. I try and get there twice a month or more and I feel at home in the rose gardens. It's a little hard for me to see those bright oranges and yellows overlooking the view to the south. Pastels made it more peaceful to me but I'm sure there are going to be people that love that bold statement. I believe the trees were thinned to avoid wind damage. That big wind storm a while back caused so much damage and killed many large trees. It was very expensive for the LA Arboretum as well. The wind even blew all the leaves off the roses. The icebergs were all naked except for little buds at the tips hanging on for dear life.




I AM LMAO. How funny! Obviously the repellent works. Should send the manufacturer the photo. I swear by that stuff and rabbits!
Susan
I emailed the manufacturer the photo. Thanks.