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Grab yourself a Tamora and an Ambridge Rose from Chamblee's. Both excellent and reasonably tidy roses.

I only try own-root roses because I'm sick of suckers and having the scion die off in the winter. I don't grow many Austins because they blackspot to hell over here on the east coast, but I have to say, James Galway is one of the most blackspot resistant roses I have. It's on par with Knockout and La Marne and Monsieur Tillier. And it's bigger than all of them put together, although MT gives it a run for the money.

Anyhow, I think it depends on the specific rose and also on your soil and climate.

The name of the rose is a c de Montarville. Yes, what a shame that they didn't place importance on the development of hardy Canadian roses. I have a few of the explorers and I like them, especially for their hardiness in our climate.

I have both Henry Kelsey and Alexander Mackenzie. Both are fantastic. Alexander Mackenzie is a beautiful, elegant shrub and I love it even when not in bloom. Henry Kelsey is a monster when it comes to blooms. I'd recommend both in a heartbeat.

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This post was edited by kitty on Sat, Jun 22, 13 at 1:10

Thank you kitty,
I think you are right about the "floribunda fabulous." I googled images of it and it is exactly like mine. Thank you so much for identifying it for me. Do you think the peach colored ones in the picture might be floribunda.as well? they grow in clusters too, there are two bushes there and they are similar but two different roses, and a slightly different color.
Also I have seven cuttings that are thriving, and I am hoping there is a mr Lincoln among them. Two of them have buds, and I am watching to see, anxiously! I got them from another neighbor and he didn't know what they were. I only pray the rain doesn't get them, they are so tiny. I will post pics whan they open and see if you can identify them for me, if you would be so kind..

I am going to shade some of the newer planted roses with shade cloth today, just too hot for them. But Yves kills me with all of those buds, first big big flush and fried.

Yves is one of my favorite bushes, even tho' mine looks mildewy and cranks out only a few blooms. Maybe someday I'll move it to a sunnier location.

Checking the blooms today, Double Delight blooms look the most fried. The yellows and pale pinks look better.

Desertgarden- I haven't had RRD in our area, but I've read that it might help to mix in perennials with the roses. The Brooklyn Botanical Garden did this, when it redid their rose garden after RRD problems. Initially it seemed to help...but I haven't seen anything recent about their progress.

I always mix in lots of shrubs and perennials with my roses. Also, we don't have the same problems with wild roses (too dry) for them to grow anywhere but along fence lines and ditches. They seem to get more water and snow melt here...maybe that helps.

I doubt that the perennials themselves would have any effect, but the space between roses would slow the spread of RRD within the garden. A rose touching an infected rose is very likely to be infected next.

Thanks! I thought maybe I was stressing them too much! It really is an interesting phenomenom! One day when I have some extra time, its one of the things I'd like to do some research on. Mary Rose sure is pretty though!

Tammy

It's important to understand that reversion is not systemic. It is not something the whole plant is doing. Each reversion is a mutation that starts at a particular spot, usually a growth bud at a leaf axil, or maybe just a flower bud. It affects only tissues growing out of that spot. If you remove the reverted stems, you will always have the variety you started with. That's how 'Rosa Mundi' has survived for centuries.

I agree that it could be Folklore, especially if it has a nice fragrance. There is another rose out there that is very similar - Sundowner. I have two of them and they get 8-10 feet tall like Folklore is supposed to do, but they don't have a fragrance. The blooms are identical to your pic.

I agree also that it's not Voodoo. I have one of those - great rose, but it's strongly orange and will burn into a brilliant red in sun. It also does not have the high-tight centers that are in your pic/Folklore/Sundowner's form.

BTW - it appears that you have a case of PM beneath that bloom.

Pat, thank you for those images, your VooDoo is gorgeous! This rose does not have that shading and hasn't really darkened.

Beth, thanks for the info. The actual Maid of Honor is gorgeous! What a beautiful light apricot! I am enjoying this rose, whether it is Folklore or not, it is an attention grabber!

Rosetom, thank you for your input! It does have a nice fragrance. Funny you should mention Sundowner. I also have Sundowner and I agree they are very similar! I think my Folklore (or whatever it is) is maybe a shade lighter than my Sundowner, but you were thinking exactly what I was, I kept looking at them both when this bloom opened, thinking, "are you the same rose?!?" Yes, I unfortunately do have PM on that rose and a few others. I think it is from keeping my pot ghetto too crowded. I have not sprayed yet either. Lots to do!

Thanks for all of your answers!

Andrea

Thanks again everyone for the wonderful complements! I have absolutely no skills whatsoever at the visual arts like drawing or sculpture, so it's nice to think I may have a knack for visual skills in the garden. Holy Cannoli (chuckle) - I'll have to remember that one, Scott.

In the interests of honesty, since people have enjoyed the names of the roses, I have to correct the name of one of the climbers at the back of the fourth picture (with my shed in the background). It's Antique 89, not Handel - see why I don't chime in on rose ID questions? I have both of them, just forgot where they were planted. I tried editing this on the original posting but I didn't see the option listed.

Anyway, glad you enjoyed the pictures - I love sharing this enthusiasm!

Cynthia

Your roses are absolutely stunning! Thanks for sharing the photos....they are a wonderful companion to my cup of coffee.
Molly

I agree good advice from hoovb to look for reasons why the leaves don't look "normal". My Peace rose in the garden will often have puckered leaves but blooms normally. It is the only one in the garden that does this. Again as hoovb said, it could be the nature of the plant.
A comment about growing roses in the pots: I have done this for the past couple of years. When I receive the "own root" roses from the growers, I pot them from their shipping container into a pot that is at lease twice the size of the shipped pot or larger. They usually come in a one gallon size so I put them into a three to five gallon pot. I fertilze with a liquid fertilizer on a regular interval with a reduce concentration mix at first then change the rate as they grow. I follow the same spraying rotation for insecticides and fungicides as the rest of the roses in my garden. I prune as necessary so new growth is encouraged. I place the newly potted roses in a moderate shaded area at first and transition them into the sun/shade area where they will be growing when planted in the garden. I try to plant these "newbies" into the garden sometime during the mid to late summer so they have a chance to adapt to the ground for wintering.

Identify any "dead end" growth and prune these back gently to encourage new growth.

I was told once that own root roses have very limited blooming in the first year beacuse they are new, but as the get older they bloom more and more each year, and I have found this to be true. Good luck.

Wow thanks for all the great advice. Ill check them and report back.

The photo is of a cluster of four blooms. The picture is darker than real life. The blooms are darker than your picture.

I attached a picture from pickering.

Your rose is absolutely 100%, not Ballerina.

mommom, your roses are just going through their normal blooming cycle. The rose will look better if you trim off the ends that are no longer blooming.

Water well (but don't drown them) and regularly. . . and wait. After a rest (anywhere from a few weeks to a month or sometimes even 6 weeks), the bush will bloom again. At the end of that blooming cycle, again trim off the spent blooms, water, and wait--for the next bloom cycle.

One reason your rose isn't doing much right now is that it is still trying to grow roots in your garden. A newly planted rose will probably take about a month or 6 weeks before it starts putting out new vigorous growth.

Patience is a virtue all gardeners have to learn. : )

Kate

Thanks nickl. I somewhat suspected that, the watering of the knock outs, despite the claims how drought tolerant they are. But I was surprised how quickly the cuttings rooted, and rooted very well in just 6 weeks or so. I really didn't expect to see anything so soon, but I had to move them and discovered the well developed root systems. I figured next spring I'd be seeing the results! Thanks again.

You need to dead head the spent blooms off and wait for it to rebloom. All roses will bloom in flushes and usually the first flush of spring is the biggest and best. KO's are no different. Otherwise that bush looks exceedingly healthy!

Nothing is wrong. Cut off the old, dead, blooms. The blooms on Knock Out don't last very long. More blooms will come. Water.

You mentioned in a different thread that the blooms were "peach". I'm assuming that what you have is Rainbow Knock Out (maybe). Please let us know if that is correct. If so, I find that the blooms of Rainbow Knock Out get very ugly as they age. The care is the same, but the colors of Rainbow Knock Out and the original Knock Out are vary different.

This post was edited by diane_nj on Thu, Jun 27, 13 at 18:57

I moved all mine when they came with us to the new house. We potted them up and keep them in full shade until fall then planted them in the ground.

Yes, you can take your roses with you. I know of many people that have moved they're roses anywhere from a few blocks away to across the country. We need to know some particulars on the move. When are you moving and how far? How many roses are we talking about?

Here is a rambler to be preserved - America (Walsh, not J&P). This still available and is sold nowhere else.

It was in bloom upon arrival and it was such a surprise and delight. I had been uncertain when I bought it because there are few clear photos of this rose online. But wow, was I thrilled at my choice.

I took this picture which doesn't do it justice. Then the next few days it rained and I never got a chance at a better picture before it lost the petals. I wish I could show everyone how really special it is. I stuck it straight in the ground and it's growing like a weed, waist high at least.

Very nice rambler, ratdogheads. One that I got just recently and still listed as available is 'Mary Lovett' -- perfect quite double creamy white flowers, nice scent, excellent foliage. Even more unusual for a rambler, it's listed as "fair" rebloom. In fact, my band of it bloomed a day or two after I got it about a month and a half ago and now has a half-dozen buds and is set to bloom again. Vintage sole source, it seems, in U.S. (another nursery listed, but it looks defunct).

I got the "Marlowe's Soft Orange", too, Cynthia, but no blooms yet, so glad to hear the good report.