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About 4-5 years ago I had trouble with our one neighbor to the point I installed a small hidden camera in our backyard...
I caught our neighbor on video tape purposely spraying our plants and a small tree with weed poison.
I confronted her and told her I had solid proof and if it happened again the law would be called in...
I never told her about our hidden camera.
Bad things stopped happening and she doesn't bother us any more...
Lazy mow guys blow weedy lawn clippings over to my flowerbed every week. I just hate that. I go out and stand there watering when they are there now and it's not so bad as it was. Tell your mow crew to be sure not to blow anything over there. I don't excuse his chemical attack on your plant. I think he should make that right. Someone put weed concentrate on some trees that someone planted and grew up to block an ocean view near Los Angeles. I think this goes on everywhere.
Bands do better potted up gradually but once they're a couple of years old bigger will be better. Since those big ones are on sale you might want to grab them now and save them for when your roses mature. In the mean time I would just get some inexpensive nursery type pots to grow them up in.
I've got both Quietness and Honesweet on order for next spring. Had a posting about Honeysweet a bit ago as I was asking about overall attributes.
Predfern (Chicago z5) stated, "Honeysweet blooms her heart out for me. Not much fragrance though. Color looks like an explosion in a lipstick factory." Everyone else seemed happy with disease resistance though no other comments on fragrance.
I just got Prairie Harvest as a present for a friend's weekend garden. Prairie Harvest is reputedly "moderately fragrant". Perhaps that means slightly. Anyway, I hope it is hardy and has has at least some fragrance. It does look very fetching. I was sold on it by attached link below.
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Leaving them on the cement is usually fine. Since eventually most roses go in fairly large pots, lifting them has its own issues.
They should stay out long enough that they get the idea winter is here. Usually, I end up hauling them in and out at least once since we often get a cold snap around the middle to end of October. There are a couple of nights below freezing, then things warm up again. I pay a lot more attention to when they come out in the spring, but I think the fall routine is something like they go in the garage for temperatures below around 30 (freezing is not the trigger point at all) They go in for good if temperatures are going to be in the low 20 for at least a week.
I have mine on wheeled pot trolleys to make them easier to move around and I just leave them on those to winterize them. I don't like putting mine on the cement because in my opinion the cement pulls moisture from the pots and dries them out too much. They need to have moisture all winter even though they are dormant.
In the past I used to start winterizing around Halloween. Lately, however, it's been warm way past that time and I've had blooms as late as Thanksgiving. For a few years we winterized on Thanksgiving weekend but last year we didn't until the second week of December. Not sure is it's climate change but it has been getting later before they go dormant.
I really can't give you an estimate of when it would be right for your area. You have to play it by ear and watch the weather. You'll be able to tell when they've stopped all signs of growth. Usually that takes at least a couple of hard freezes with temps dipping into the mid 20s. The leaves will start to look dried up and shriveled and if you have any tender new growth it will look frost bitten and wilted.
I'm not gonna give up susan. Still hanging in like a stubborn child!
Kate I grew my roses in the ground. They grew well the first year but then they would stunt. Problem turned out to be tree roots (I have huge trees everywhere) and they weren't letting anything flourish, from lemons to papayas to roses. So everything went into pots!
The whitish stuff are dead scale insects. Just gotta wipe em off!
Your roses had a tough time but I think you will be a better gardener after all this is sorted out. Minis root really well off the canes, so I would plant them deeper and see if you can get them to make new roots higher up. I do this with most of my bigger roses anyway. I keep planting them a little deeper in a bigger pot and hopefully, they are making roots just under the soil each time. Trees will stunt roses. You are right about that. Can you make some shade fall on the pots like putting the pot in a larger pot with some bark between or putting some low plants in front to provide some shade? Just in case the hot weather comes back. For right now help your roses to stop dying and then later work on regrowing them into full foliaged plants. I would keep the flowerbuds picked off for now.
Palatine has always promoted Kordes roses, but they're not making any association between Kordes and the rose they're offering as 'Nantucket'. In their online catalog, Palatine identifies Kern as the "breeder". Kern was the Ohio nurseryman who discovered the sport.
Palatine's description of the color blend sure doesn't match the photos or support some of the comments that have been posted here.
I am neutral in this discussion (I like both grafted and own root). I am not trying to be right in this discussion just offering an opinion. My comments are all based on my personal experience only. The plants that (seem to be) fuller (for me) own root are icebergs (pink and white), Frederic Mistral and Livin' Easy. I also have own root plants that I am comparing to grafted plants at the South Coast Botanical Gardens.
My apologies to anyone upset by my comments. They are my personal opinions based on my own personal observation and I am not stating them as facts.
This is an interesting discussion, thanks for sharing your experiences
Lee
That's interesting about your Frederic Mistral, Lee, because I have an enormous, fat, Fred that's grafted on Huey. It's so wide and thick we can't get by on the grass path around it, and have to stomp through a flower bed to avoid smashing into Fred. I think this rose would be thick if it were grafted on petunia roots! Ar least around here. Diane
Thank you so much Jackie! It was you who first suggested a white sport of MCT. I am so happy now, after more than 5 years I could finally name this old HT!.
Moreover, I found another plant of AD just one block away from that old house and I am planning to get some cuttings in a few months. Once I make some plants on its own roots I can send you some cuttings, if you are interested.
Greetings from BA! :)
Mariano
That would be great, except that I do not think it is legal to import plant material without all sorts of licenses, and quaranteens, etc. Also the State of California has even more stringent rules than the US does (to protect the agricultural crops).
Between my neighbor and I, we have 5 plants of MCT which were rooted from a 70-80 year old plant in her garden, so we will just have to keep an eye on all of them, and hope that one of them throws off this sport. Not very likely, but a fun thing to watch for.
Jackie
Pat - I'm not sure, but your Heart 'O Gold is one gorgeous rose! Since mine is own-root and this is its first year I can't tell yet. I think I am still leaning toward Granada. Thanks. Maybe if I plant a HoG and a Granada I'll know for sure, that may be the only way I'll be able to know for sure. Then it may not be either one. lol!
Oops, a double post. Pat - I'm not sure, but your Heart 'O Gold is one gorgeous rose! Since mine is own-root and this is its first year I can't tell yet. I think I am still leaning toward Granada. Thanks. Maybe if I plant a HoG and a Granada I'll know for sure, that may be the only way I'll be able to know for sure. Then it may not be either one. lol!
This post was edited by Sara-Ann on Mon, Sep 30, 13 at 13:32