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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yes. You can.

Jeri

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 12:47PM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

rideau

Impressive pic's. love your morden sunrise....I fell in love with that one this year......

Impressive all...you all make me rose envious..

SCG

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 11:59PM
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socks

Best picture: Fame (blossoms stay on the bush for weeks and even if faded they add color to the garden)

Best actor in a leading role: Mellow Yellow (planted front and center, always blooming, "look at me" kind of bush)

Best actress in a leading role: Julia Child (love those bright yellow blooms, bushy bush)

Best actress in a supporting role: Betty Boop (blooms and blooms, never has any issues with mildew, no need to deadhead)

Best actor in a supporting role: Christopher Marlowe (just a small bush, blooms regularly, trouble free)

Best visual effects: Gourmet Popcorn (a mini which really does look like popcorn)

Best foreign language: Yves Piaget (love the blooms on this bush, but sadly, a tree is shading it and it suffers mildew but blooms on)

Best visual effects: Dark Lady (love the blooms, but another mildew magnet)

Lifetime achievement: Snowfire (has been in place well over 30 years in a difficult, hot location. It carries on year after year.)

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 10:21AM
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dutchrose71(6b)

What about Lavaglut? I do not grow it-- it is on my "next year" list.

I have read and heard many good things about it-- though I'm not sure it would meet your height requirement.

Nor do I know firsthand about JB avoidance, but my experience this year is that JBs go for the yellow roses.
I'm also hearing good things about Europeana...

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 9:13PM
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Hanna0523

Hi everyone,

Thank you so much for your reply. glad I asked here. wow. Home Run is beautiful!

I found my local nursery was selling Flower Carpet Rose Scarlet for 20% off. I don't know about this rose so didn't take it. But is anybody growing Flower Carpet Rose?

thank you in advance for your input.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 10:20AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Dead-head and water and enjoy your roses.

That's about it for now. : )

Kate

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 6:30AM
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socks

Nadia, I enjoyed looking through your 11 roses. Very interesting.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 9:50AM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

I've seen it win some awards for form. ;-)

Fragrant Cloud has a true exhibition quality to it, and is relatively unique with it's habit of reflexing the bottom petals. Touch of Class is another rose that does that and we all know of its exhibition capability.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 10:24PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Rosetom,
I'm glad to hear that it hasn't been forgotten for it's great form. I thought it might have gotten lost in the barrage of 'newer better crazier' (ha!)

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 2:13AM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

mispelled- it's spelled Carmagnole! Sorry

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 1:28AM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

i found someone who can do a custom graft. My question is it worth having done for a show prospect? Is the form good enough? does anyone have any experience at all with this rose as far as exhibiting.

It's won several medals overseas but little data exists for US. It's such a lovely looking one.
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 2:07AM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Agreed! There are some really great roses that still win once in awhile. Last weekend Cleo HT won Queen. I don't even know where you'd get that one anymore.

Olympiad has done well here too. I hope they continue to recognize great form over the newest craze.

Anyone else have luck with an older rose?

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 2:01AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

Hi Emsie, If the canes are brown on the bottom, but still green and blooming on top, you should keep those. Only cut out the canes that are dead all the way up.

I'm not sure what zone you are in, but it could be that the rose suffered from black spot and that's why you don't have any leaves. Some of my climbers get like that if I don't spray them. But if you do trim back some of the tips, they will put out new leaves.

You can also try to trim back the lilac so the rose gets more sun.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:51PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Buford said it before I did.

Cut away anything that is dead from top-to-bottom.
Keep what still has green coming from it.

What I personally would do with this rose is sit on the ground and follow each of those short canes from the bottom to the top. If they're dead the whole way, remove them as far down as you can. If they're growing something, leave them be.

Once all the truly dead stuff is gone, you can see better.

Jeri

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 11:09PM
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mgleason56(Michigan 5b)

I have been using this Fimco sprayer from Rosemania now for a few years. I can do all my roses mixing just once, and the wheels make it very easy to cart around.

Here is a link that might be useful: Battery operated sprayer

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 9:59AM
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roseperson(z5 S/E MI)

Thanks to all of you for your feedback. SpotShot is a bit expensive for me; I will have to do some more research before I come to a conclusion. Atomist probably is not a choice because of health hazard.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 10:47PM
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vtstar

Thanks everyone for your help in identifying this rose. It has been a favorite of mine for years. And it looks like now I can have it in two colors! Janice

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:41PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

ALL of the Kosters are neat. I wish more of them were more-readily available.

Jeri

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:43PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'm in Tyrone Pa (Central Pa). I did not have much luck
with outta the blue or easy does it... They blackspotted badly here. (no spray)...
But your strain of BS may be different in your area...?

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 8:36PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

I can't help you with info on roses, but just wanted to say how happy I am for you. It sounds as though you got everything you wanted in a home, and beginning a new garden is always so exciting.

Ingrid

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 9:27PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Your Lavaglut is beautiful! Sorry about Purple Rain. I though maybe shade would help too. What are the petals like? Are they very thin. Sometimes roses with very thin petals just don't hold up well. Ones with more substance seem to last longer.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 7:42PM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

PR is a new bare root planted this spring, so not an established plant. I hadn't thought of this as possibly just a new rose problem, but good point.

The petals are quite small, but thin? I'm not sure. So far they've shriveled up so fast I can't tell! I've been looking on HMF and everyone else's pics look great, nothing at all like what mine looks like, darnit.

It's in a pot so I'll give it a trial in a spot with afternoon shade. It's a really BIG pot, my husband will be so thrilled. Or maybe I should just dis-bud it this year anyhow since it's a new plant. There are dozens and dozens of blooms and probably that's too much stress for the first year.

Could this be an indication that it doesn't like growing in a pot?

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 8:35PM
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Hrose(6 A)

yeah I'll pick off the buds and see if it puts out larger blooms

I really don't think the bloom size should be this small

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:50PM
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Hrose(6 A)

seil was right I went back to the store I bought the don juan from and there were a few other don juans with blooms that looks exactly the same as mine

I guess this rose in particular has to be well established for it to be able to produce regular sized blooms

ps right now it looks like a miniature rose

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 7:59PM
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DNTQuilter

To hopefully wrap up this thread, I'm declaring myself out of the woods. I've searched and searched for beetles and the like, and really, I have every day for some time.

After reflecting on the situation, I feel that the impacted buds were probably munched on in the days preceding the morning that I felt it absolutely necessary to spray.

On the Peace rose, a new bloom has opened, and is damage free. Likewise, JFK had a candelabra situation going on. The first to open was lacey, I dead headed another because of fuzzy mildew on the bottom of the bud, but two more have opened and are looking nice.

Thanks again to all who chimed in. Your passion for roses and willingness to help us "newbies" is so very much appreciated.

Scott in PA

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 6:36PM
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roseseek(9)

I think you nailed it, Scott! You HAD beetles before you sprayed, when the buds were immature. You took care of the problem (at least temporarily) by spraying; or your "beetle season" expired about the time you noticed the issue and took action. Roseblushlyn has issues with curculios in her garden. Instead of spraying, she theorized she could control them by disbudding her roses when they were active. She was right! Instead of a garden full of them, she eliminated their food source and a whole generation of them being raised in HER garden. Now, she has some, but not the swarms of them she had previously. That's something you might consider in the future so you might actually be able to control them without pesticides. Congratulations! Kim

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 6:55PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

It's amazing what you can find at Lowe's and Home Depot if you know what to look for and if you get there on days of delivery.

I found some great roses at my local supermarket in May for sale-- for about $17.99-- 'Julia Child', 'Easy Does It' and 'Electron'. I recently found 'Koko Loko' at another supermarket for $12.99- all were in 2 Gallon pots!

I love 'Julia Child' and have had mine in the ground for about 3-4 years already. The other 'Julia Child' I bought for my MIL's property to give the backyard area some 'curb appeal'. That is going like gangbusters too!

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 11:32AM
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bunnicula03(z6b NJ)

Yes, the key is to be there close to the plant deivery time, before the roses get picked over and scruffy. I work at an HD, though not in the garden dept. I scoped the roses out daily during May and early June. I picked up Elle, Yves d' St Laurent, Mother of Pearl, California Dreamin', and Adobe Sunrise. I missed out on Julia Child (the few they had sold quickly), and passed on Koko Loco and a few other interesting varieties.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 2:57PM
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