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subk3

Thank you all...I am so appreciative of this forum and how helpful everyone is!

There are a couple of the fungus looking white spots on the other cane--mostly on a few the laterals. Should I treat with a fungicide? If so which one?

Michael when do you plant your Spring bands? I intentionally waited until Fall thinking that would be better than shocking them in the heat of Summer...although perhaps I waited to late. Of the dozen I got last year this is the only one who seems less than happy. She is also probably the only one rated warmer than zone 6 so maybe just more fragile in my climate in general?

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 6:10PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I ask for delivery around April 15 and transplant a week later after checking the 10-day forecast. If I need to place a subsequent order, the sooner, the better.

If you look closely at the white spots, they are probably shiny or silvery. The outermost layer of bark has died and the fungus may be inactive. I see this all the time and don't worry as long as the cane supports vigorous growth.

    Bookmark   April 11, 2013 at 10:51AM
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susan4952(5)

Thanks. So I shall place her in the front!

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 10:25PM
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trospero(8)

'Pam's Choice' has always been a modest shrub (as are most of the odd colored roses) but of decent vigor and hardiness. Mine has never exceeded four feet tall, and somewhat less wide. It blooms generously and the bloom color is a consistent blend of cool mauve and warm tan.

If Blackspot is a problem for roses where you are, then this rose will suffer from the disease, sometimes defoliating badly, so be prepared to deal with it, if necessary. I consider this a nice addition to this color range, but is far from perfect.

    Bookmark   April 11, 2013 at 12:07AM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

I too, wait for my forsythias to bloom. The last couple of weeks have been a torturous test of "the gardener's patience" because the forsythia has been blooming all over town, but not on any of the levels in my garden. I garden on a slope.

Seil ... thank you for telling me the "why if it" as to why the forsythia is such a great indicator plant. Maybe the wait won't be so awful knowing the the soil has not warmed up enough.

Lola ... I live in the mountains of northern California, but it's still California. Even with a couple of feet of snow covering the roses for over a month, I didn't get much die back, but my day temps don't drop below freezing (they do at the higher elevations) ... only the night temps. There is not one bud on any of my roses while the other Californians you referred to in your post are sharing photos of this year's roses. Ya' just can't lump us all together .... lol.

There are times when I am sooooooooooo jealous because I am looking at winter while they are looking at spring, but I also don't have to do gardening chores 13 months out of the year. I get an annual break.

My forsythias popped last week while it was raining and all of the roses are completely leafed out. The buds were swollen for several weeks, but the roses held off, too, until it was the right time to leaf out. That's why I am learning to ignore anything other than the forsythias.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 4:08PM
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whaas_5a(5A SE WI)

All, thanks for sharing your experience! I know what to do now.

Here is a young grouping of Lady Elsie May (although the Japanese White Pine is taking the show).. Can't wait for them this year as they should be a bit more established.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 11:03PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

LOL...yep that's part of my pot ghetto on the floor in front of them :) There's also 2 more this size in the back, two 4x6 in the back, and one "real" greenhouse with actual panels and vents still boxed in my garage. That one is 8x12 I think. :)

Tammy

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 10:09PM
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gr8heather(6b)

That's the kind I have too, the clear one from Biglots. I got it cheap during the friends and family sale. I put my house roses straight into it, and it made their leafs a little burned at first even though I watched them carefully, but I think they are used to it now.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 10:13PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Those spots don't look like mildew to me. Like Michael said It usually starts at the top on the new growth first and the leave sort of look dusted with powder not spotty.

That leaf damage could have been caused by a lot of things so don't spray anything until you know what it is. Spraying for an insect you haven't seen or identified is a waste of time and money and could kill potential helpers needlessly. Also, most insecticides are specific to certain insects and usually work on contact only. If you can't see them to ID and spray them you won't hit your target with the right stuff. Keep checking them and look for the insect and photograph it so we can ID it and then you'll know what to use specifically for that insect.

That doesn't even look exactly chewed but more torn. I don't know what kind of weather you've had but that could be just frost or storm damage too.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 1:46PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Is your water pretty alkaline, and does it have a high mineral content? Ours is, and we see that all the time. It's the minerals left behind when water evaporates.

The leaf-muncher . . . Grasshoppers???

Jeri

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 8:46PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Good luck and make sure you wear protective clothing and goggles when you're cutting her back!

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 2:14PM
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susan4952(5)

And make sure the local hospital has a few units of your blood type on hand.
Lol

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 6:03PM
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debandroses

Thanks for the replies. I first saw the pic on heirloom and loved it. Then the fact it had fragrance and hips added to it. It's just that I don't always trust what the seller says, although all the other roses I have planted from Heirloom has pretty much performed the way they said.It would be nice if it was continuous bloom but I would be happy with a repeat.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 3:16PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Deb....

I have brought forward as much information as I could from the listed REFERENCES on HMF to the rose page.

HMF is very much a work-in-progress, just like our gardens, and there was a time when we could not add plant characteristics to the main rose page. Of course, there were tens-of-thousands of roses already in the database when this feature was added. It's going to take years to bring all of that information forward for all of the roses.

In the meantime, I suggest you do check the REFERENCES on the rose page, (if we have them ... there was a time when we didn't have that feature, too.) for additional information.

From what I have read about 'Scabrosa' in other sources, it's a solid plant and can be a wonderful garden rose.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 3:38PM
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Campanula UK Z8

Municiple plantings of mass HTs never look very good to my mind. I wouldn't be racing to go and see it, having been utterly underwhelmed by similar displays (Queen Mary's in Regents Park, Stanley Park's gazillion Austin plantings, our local cemetery's dull rows of clumpy, ugly bushes). But hey, horses for courses, just not mine.
Piper Alpha was a gas rig which blew up killing a number of workers.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 1:51PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

If it is a bit of comfort to those who have lost loved ones, then it's good.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 2:41PM
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wirosarian_z4b_WI

Dead heading may be the key to repeat here. I remember seeing info that some of Dr. Buck's roses were noted for shutting down new bloom production as soon as they set hips.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 6:02PM
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predfern(z5 Chicago)

Quietness may be Buck's best. Lots of blooms all season, vigorous and hardy.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2013 at 12:03AM
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New cameraBetter pictures. Beauty of Glazenwood blooms
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kittymoonbeam

Oh I don't know....I go out and take pictures of my roses when they are covered with buds and none are opened yet. I like my roses at all stages. Fresh red growth, buds, blooms, heps. It's all good.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2013 at 11:36PM
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deervssteve(9)

reine de violettes

Buds are having a tough time opening. I guess the weather needs to warm up. I cut a flower and put in water.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 9:05PM
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thonotorose

Currently, I am enamored with Barfield White Climber and plan to get it this year. Thornless!

Here is a link that might be useful: Barfield White Climber

    Bookmark   April 8, 2013 at 8:10PM
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mikeber(6a)

Try Sombreuil. Its an old fashioned beautiful climber and may be great for your zone.
I live in NY and the winter cold killed mine a few years back.

This post was edited by mikeber on Tue, Apr 9, 13 at 20:17

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 8:16PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

You should feed at LEAST two times during the growing season. Once in the spring and once again in August. Try this mix; 1/4 cup fish meal, 1 cup Alfalfa, one cup Milorganite per bush. I'm sure you're roses will be happy with this mix.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 4:44PM
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campv

I use fish emulsion once per month - easy- natural -smelly- but the roses love it.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 4:54PM
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seil zone 6b MI

The only place I see listed is in the Netherlands and it is listed as a florist rose like hoovb said. Longwood may have imported it, which is a very involved, lengthy and expensive process that they would have the resources to do. It's fairly new and patented so I doubt you'll find it available anywhere here.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 2:01PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

Helpmefind.com shows two roses by that name, one a floribunda and one a hybrid tea. Can you describe the one that you saw? Perhaps we could recommend something similar. I won't get to Longwood until early June.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 2:47PM
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mysteryrose(z5)

jaxondel, seil, TNY78:

Thanks for your help. I'd always thought that bareroots should be soaked for no more than 24 hrs. Good to know that 5 days won't do them in. The supplier is in a warmer clime (California), so I hope they haven't broken dormancy. I like the unheated garage suggestion too. This Friday, while I'm drinking a mint julep in Savannah, an expected Chicago snow will cool those beauties out in the garage.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 1:18AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Enjoy your trip with a clear conscience!

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 2:04PM
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jardineratx(zone 8, Texas)

I am in the "put all your information out there" camp. I will decide whether I wish to read it, gain from it, or ignore it. Even when reading posts regarding growing roses in England, Canada, or Minnesota, I feel that I learn something even though I am in the heart (and heat) of Texas.
Molly

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 12:35PM
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jacqueline9CA

I agree with most above - all posts are potentially of use, or amusement, or valuable to someone (except spam, of course), and we should not try to discourage folks from posting whatever they want.

Jackie

    Bookmark   April 9, 2013 at 12:59PM
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