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The only place I see listed is in the Netherlands and it is listed as a florist rose like hoovb said. Longwood may have imported it, which is a very involved, lengthy and expensive process that they would have the resources to do. It's fairly new and patented so I doubt you'll find it available anywhere here.

jaxondel, seil, TNY78:
Thanks for your help. I'd always thought that bareroots should be soaked for no more than 24 hrs. Good to know that 5 days won't do them in. The supplier is in a warmer clime (California), so I hope they haven't broken dormancy. I like the unheated garage suggestion too. This Friday, while I'm drinking a mint julep in Savannah, an expected Chicago snow will cool those beauties out in the garage.

I am in the "put all your information out there" camp. I will decide whether I wish to read it, gain from it, or ignore it. Even when reading posts regarding growing roses in England, Canada, or Minnesota, I feel that I learn something even though I am in the heart (and heat) of Texas.
Molly

Christina, this is a perfect example of how a rose can be great for one person, and terrible for another. Zephy and Baronne Prevost are two of my best performers here in Knoxville :) I wouldn't be without them...but I'm sure some of the roses that do terrible for me, would do wonders in your garden!
Ogrose, I'm feeling the same way about my Souv du Dr Jamain! I left him in the ground for 3 seasons and he didn't do a thing! Last spring I dug him up, repotted him, and he still didn't grow. He's healthy, just stunted! So for now he's living happily in a pot...not sure what else I can do for him :( I'm also having the same experience with Golden Celebration's BS tendency, but I've only had it for a year, so it will be given at least another year to show me what it can do.
Tuggy, Honey Dijon=Grey Poupon...completely agree! It decided to leave my garden on its own terms last year when it finally died. Good ridence!
Tammy



Yes I have heard of being in one location and the weather being quite different just a few miles away...
Right now here our roses only have swelled buds...
I will be happy to just see leaves come on them...lol
Here is a link that might be useful: Rose Societies in your area:

JenniferinFl----What part of Central Fl are you in??? I lived in Winter Haven for 20 yrs. That's when I first started growing Spectra. I had 2 of them growing on a 9' high by 14' wide trellis next to my carport. They covered the trellis and then some. If you're not happy with the one you have, don't fight with it. Go directly to Nelsons and get a good healthy one. I'll be in Central Fl some time this summer and will be making a trip to their nursery to get what I need. (will also be getting Christian Dior and JFK)

I'm in Deland, so not that far from Winter Haven. In all fairness, the Spectra had a rough start as it was pretty late in the season when I planted it, then it got chilli thrips on top of the blackspot it already had. Lost a couple canes to that, than I missed that it had scale this spring and that didn't help.
I sure learned my lesson though, always buy a beautiful looking rose! I bought the last three roses the nursery had left in July and they were all pretty ugly and sparse. Prosperity and Belinda's Dream bounced back fine, but, I probably didn't pay enough attention to Spectra.
I still haven't made it directly to Nelson's, should one day though! I would like a Christian Dior, but the ones at the nurseries have all been a bit runty. This week I picked up Queen Elizabeth, Mr Lincoln, Mardi Gras, Hot Princess, Lynn Anderson and a large shrubby rose missing a tag but on clearance.. lol I went to get a Queen Elizabeth and we see how that turned out.. lol
Now if I heard they had a Maria Stern, I would be driving to Nelson's tomorrow as that's next on my wish list.


Seil's advice to prune to white pith is correct for young canes of hybrid teas.
The OP asked when to fertilize. There is no point in fertilizing until there are green leaves to utilize the nutrients. Be sure not to exceed labeled doses of fertilizer, and if you are using more than one kind of fertilizer, reduce doses accordingly. (Labeled doses are always on the generous side.) If you overfertilized last season, there should be plenty of nutrients left over except for nitrogen. Available nitrogen is transient in the soil, so N needs to be applied every year, in several small doses if you are using a fast nitrogen source. By contrast, excess phosphate can build up harmfully in the soil if you keep applying more than is needed.

I was given some HTs which I planted and eventually SP'd because of horrible blackspot. Years later I got a Dr Huey, which I believe came from one of them. Unless, of course, it came from my Abe Darby which is close by, has been in the ground for about 30 years. Who knows...

This is fascinating. I've gardened all my life, and grown roses since 2004 and I like to think I'm pretty knowledgeable but I have a lot to learn. I may re-think the grafted roses approach in the future. The suckers I found yesterday from the shovel pruned Alba Maximas were very large. Thicker than a pencil and very deep. I purchased these plants several years ago from David Austin Roses. Grafted onto Dr Huey, they were simply enormous in size and grew with great vigor. I think I can expect a lot more of these things in the future. Thanks everyone for your responses.

Mrs. B.R.C gets much larger than BD in my garden. BD is bushy all the way to the ground and extremely healthy. No bare ankles here. She's on Fortuniana here. As they say, YMMV. Natchithoches Noisette, own root, is a beautifully rounded, healthy four foot rose here. Is Zone 6 too cold for Noisettes?

You might also try Rugosas. They are nearly maintenance free. They will take the cold, many are nearly continuous bloomers if it doesn't get too hot, don't need to be sprayed, and most have good autumn color and lovely hips. Many also sucker, so if you are looking for a 'hedge' they will grow into it easily.
Hybrid Musks and Polyanthas have more the knock-out look, but you want to be careful on size, as many of the HMs can get quite large and the Polys can be very small. Both will handle zone 6.
Hybrid Teas and Floribundas require more work and are less cold hardy even on grafts.





Currently, I am enamored with Barfield White Climber and plan to get it this year. Thornless!
Here is a link that might be useful: Barfield White Climber
Try Sombreuil. Its an old fashioned beautiful climber and may be great for your zone.
I live in NY and the winter cold killed mine a few years back.
This post was edited by mikeber on Tue, Apr 9, 13 at 20:17