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susan4952(5)

Oops...here he is.

Here is a link that might be useful: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=258833130809968&l=efa5bde95f

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 10:00PM
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susan4952(5)

Oops...here he is.

Here is a link that might be useful: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=258833130809968&l=efa5bde95f

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 10:01PM
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socks

No, but it would be an interesting addition to a garden. Colors look like a tropical sunset.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 6:49PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It's different! I have a sort of similar seedling but the petals aren't quite as separated as those. It's from an OP hip of What a Peach.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 8:48PM
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growing_rene2

The link is, unfortunately, not connecting to the site.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 6:18PM
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henry_kuska

I used the edit function. Hopefully it should work now.

If not, you can reach it at:
http://www.rosebreeders.org/forum/read.php?2,52924

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 7:50PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

The leaves show some minor early infection of blackspot. They also have some whitefly damage and it looks like a rose slug larvae may also have been chewing on some of the leaves. None of it terribly serious.

You should have just left the foilage on the plant as even damaged leaves still provide energy to the rose. It will shed them itself when the leaf is no longer viable.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 6:12PM
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socks

Those are really pretty flowers. Some rose bushes hold their flowers longer than others, and this one may be just a bush that lets its flowers go pretty quick after they open.

The only thing to do now is wait and see how it does after losing so many leaves. I think it will come back, but keep an eye on it for new growth. Keep it watered, how much depends on whether it is in direct sun or not and your daily temps. Roses do best in direct sun.

Not sure about that wire holding it up. If it's an important wire, you might want to get a narrow trellis to support the bush and get it away from the wire.

Good luck.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 7:06PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

All the Knock Out roses are "shrub" roses--they grow about 4 ft tall and 3.5 ft wide--but depending on what region you live in (and which Knock Out rose you select) they might be bigger or smaller than that.

About all you need to do with Knock Out roses is dig a nice hole--(you can mix some humus in, if you wish), plant it about the same depth it is in the nursery container, and water in well--as in very, very well. There--now you are ready to go. If the weather gets dry, water it--otherwise let nature water it.

Don't worry about feeding it the first couple months, or even for the first growing season. Next spring, feed it with something like Rose-Tone (or Plant-Tone).

You might want to put a couple inches of mulch around it, keeping it back several inches from the main stem.

Now, enjoy the bright color Knock Out brings to the garden.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 6:08PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

I just received an e-mail last night stating that they had extending their ordering season since so many roses are still available. I think it will be to August at least, if not September.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 12:21PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

I got that email too....and what did I do? Go right to their site and start making a wish list! LOL

Tammy

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 4:43PM
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wirosarian_z4b_WI

In my z4 area, I plant grafted roses with the bud union (graft point between the root stock & the above ground branches) 3-4" underground. Own root roses, which is how Morden Sunrise is usually sold, I planted 1-2" deeper than the soil depth in the pot they came in.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 3:58PM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

Thank you, Henry. I was also told by a nursery that I should prune my roses to avoid the disease. He said that it takes more time for the mite to travel inside the rose than they previously had thought, and it usually enters high on the rose since it floats in the wind. I good deterrent is to prune hard in the winter.

I appreciate your links on this disease, and am pleased that the site here in Oklahoma, at least, is asking for samples to be tested.

Sammy

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 7:18AM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

There's a difference. MG is a fertilizer. MM and Rose Tone are soil amendments formulated especially for roses.

I've used MM for over 10 years and wouldn't switch. As others have said, Rose Tone didn't have alfalfa in earlier formulations and had that feather stuff (yuck). Lots of rose societies started buying "home-mixes" that competitors came up with to compete with MM. AFAIK, none include the milorganite - only MM. I tried such a mix and it wasn't as good. Neither is alfalfa tea (I will never do that again!!) as good as MM.

Don't buy MM if you're looking for lots of blooms. That's not where it's focused. However, if you want to maximize new basal shoots and very strong new stem growth, then MM is the trick.

Use fertilizer separately to promote blooms and good leaf health - but sparingly. Use as much MM as you can afford. ;-)

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 12:48AM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

I guess MM is for me. I need some basal shoots. When I used alot of Miracle Grow one year I had huge tall growth and the roses got so heavy they were falling over. Too much of a good thing I guess

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 1:41AM
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henryinct

The manure has to rot. I have been using rotted steer manure which I put in a 32 gal plastic trash barrel with water. I water the roses with it at least every other week and they seem to love it.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 8:01PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Thanks, so it looks like I'll be busy fertilizing my pots this weekend!

Tammy

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 1:12AM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

Agree with many of the posters - Peace can vary considerably, depending on conditions. I have had flushes with almost no pink whatsoever. Keep in mind that the pink in Peace is very subtle. It's mostly a pale-yellow to white, with pink highlights in good sun. Lots of rain and cloudy days combined with high heat will turn mine into a pale yellow with little highlights.

The leaves look right to me - although as some have said, the photo and lighting are not exactly conducive to a good ID.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 12:29AM
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jockewing(9a)

Well after moving out into the sun i did notice some blush developing on some of the blooms, so I think it is Peace. I also repotting into Al's 5-1-1 mix. Anxious to see how it responds.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 1:05AM
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KarenPA_6b

Thanks, Kim. I got my roses from online nurseries. I hope they will improve their quality control.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 10:04PM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

I hate to be contrary, but that does not look like Touch of Class to me. It's pretty, but it's not Touch of Class.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 12:23AM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

There is no such thing as "an enclosed back yard" when it comes to deer. They laugh at 6 ft fences and higher.

If you can see no tell-tale signs lower down on the bush - broken stems from being bent, etc. and the flowers are up high, but cleanly be-headed - it's deer, period.

They will also go after new shoots at the tops of stems - but leave the woody parts and mature leaves.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 12:18AM
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rosetom(7 Atl)

I should've added - classic deer signs are when you are looking straight at a mature bush and nothing whatsoever appears to be wrong. Then upon closer inspection, you notice that all the buds the bush had the day before are suddenly gone with neatly trimmed stem tips remaining, instead. ;-)

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 12:21AM
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catspa_NoCA_Z9_Sunset14

Here in Livermore (hot and dry summers with occasional marine influence usually -- but a lot of marine influence for some strange reason this year), I cured the persistent powdery mildew on shrub-form Devoniensis by moving the plant from the east side of my back yard to the west side of my back yard. Like magic, no PM thereafter.

I have also (inadvertently) done the experiment with too little water and instigated PM. The same plants, if well-watered, do not get PM nearly as bad as when they are not watered well.

And, as said before, some roses get terrible PM no matter what you do. They are soon gone from this garden (so, the answer to your question about avoiding is "yes" in my case -- too many great roses that don't get PM to suffer with the blight and effort required with one that does. Every day I see my neighbor's 'Dorothy Perkins' peering over the fence as a reminder of what a dedicated mildew-er can achieve, blight-wise.)

This post was edited by catspa on Fri, Jun 21, 13 at 19:10

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 6:55PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I've become ruthless about roses that insist on mildewing. If I can't prevent the problem by changing the location, I can live without that rose. Period.

Jeri

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 11:02PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

No word yet. You know how local government is, hurry up and wait. Meanwhile I have fluorescent tape and spray paint all over my front yard :( My only positive though on the subject is if I do have to dig all those teas up is that I could move MBRC slightly left and back in the bed to allow her to get even larger. If you do plant MBRC, leave plenty of room!

    Bookmark     June 15, 2013 at 7:09AM
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reemcook(8a PNW)

Oh...how I wish I could get a Mrs. BR Cant for my garden. It is enticing!

    Bookmark     June 21, 2013 at 10:11PM
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