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fig_insanity Z7a E TN

Not much even there, but there's an entry on HMF, and some lovely photos.

Here's the link to the page...

Here is a link that might be useful: HMF Love Me Tender

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 9:01PM
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jardineratx(zone 8, Texas)

Thank you for your help in establishing an ID for my rose. The thing that is striking about the blooms, other than the constantly changing of color, is that the mature blooms have petals that curl back deeply (quilled?).
Molly

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 3:51PM
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Joyce91(10A FL)

what a pretty Joseph's Coat.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 7:15PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I go with seil on this one--though one wonders how soon global warming will affect the last frost date in many locations.

I'm in Zone 6 also.

Kate

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 3:25PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'm in zone 5b-6a right on the line and we plant
leafed out roses in mid May...

So what Seil said...

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 5:40PM
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kittymoonbeam

Velvet Fragrance because Kim said it was his favorite red and another Medallion because I am finding out that Medallion has little variations and I am looking for the one I used to have. The one on the left is Duchesse de Rohan. I am finally giving away all of my Charles Lawson and that leaves a big area open.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 10:36AM
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Love Northland Rosariums roses. Can hardly wait for California Dreamin' and St. Patrick. Carol's hubby is bringing them to my home! Fantastic roses and rose growers! :) P.S. St. Patrick is already sold out so folks who really want this rose might check for next year! I ordered mine early in the season.

Deb from Spokane.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 4:17PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

I don't like Rainbow Knock Out. The blooms fade color fast, and (I think) they look ratty when they get old. I don't recommend it when asked.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 10:09AM
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Susanne27(5a Ontario Canada)

Diane thank you for the comment. When looking at roses on the web they always show just the perfect blossom and you don't get a feel for the whole bush in all stages. I am in zone 5. Do you have any suggestions for a rose that would bloom all summer? I certainly don't want ratty looking as these will be prominent next to our main door into the house.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 2:42PM
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zack_lau

Sounds to me like you did just fine! Now you just need to be patient and wait for the roots to grow back.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 10:29AM
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seil zone 6b MI

II would wait to give it any more fertilizer until after first bloom. In the meantime just keep it watered and let it grow roots.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 2:37PM
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roseseek

You can only upload one photo per post from your hard drive, Molly. For multiples, you need to use a Photobucket, Flickr or some other on line photo hosting account. From most of those, you can upload many photos per post. I use Flickr because it is easier for this, my blog and the Rose Hybridizers Association forum. But, many others use other photo sites with success. Kim

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 1:34PM
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lola-lemon(5b East WA)

Granada is widely available in bodybags this year-- that's my guess.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 2:28PM
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jacqueline9CA

Rouge Valley Roses in Oregon carries it, and says that it re-blooms constantly, and grows to 15-20 feet!

Jackie

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 12:30PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Jackie, thats where I got her from, I dint know why it didnt occur to me to look and see if they had anymore info. I think I need a vacation!

I would still be interested in hearing more first hand experience and seeing any pictures :)

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 2:14PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Have several scars from over the years. When I slice myself while working on a rose I'll rub the blood on that particular bush. Just a "quarky" thing of mine. By the way, if you can graft apples you can graft roses.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 11:51AM
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martinca_gw

Made in Taiwan, not China......though I've about given up trying to avoid it.('made in china'...sigh)

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 12:29PM
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kittymoonbeam

I can't help say who it might be, but looking at it the canes seem smooth. A plus on such a beautiful climber.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 11:07AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Cane lesions of blackspot disease are reddish or purple.

I'm with Harry. I don't know what it is, but, unless it is canker (Hoov's link) I wouldn't worry as long as the plant seems happy. Sometimes maturing canes change color variously in springtime.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 10:23AM
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forensicmom

Thanks so much. I'm being hopeful because I noticed the same spots at the knockouts at the nursery.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2013 at 7:13AM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Wow cat litter. I never thought about that. I think that would help slow things down a bit. Thanks.

Mary

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 2:41PM
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lainey2(7a)

Thanks for the info. An interesting observation: I had to remove four big shrub roses with RRD last year. Three I had planted in carefully prepared holes with enriched soil and additives. One I had planted in a hastily prepared hole in mostly clay with good topsoil on the surface. The three in prepared holes had widely spread roots. The one in the unprepared hole had roots that went down to hell, but were not wide spread.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 10:10PM
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jacqueline9CA

Cl Iceberg is trying to swallow my house. HMF says it is hardy to zone 4b. However, someone who grows it in a cold climate could do better at telling you how big it actually gets in zone 5. Mine in zone 9 grew up an 8 foot tall arch, over 7 feet to the house, and has gone another 6 feet up the house so far, and still going.....

Another rose which is trying to swallow my house is Sombreuil (the mystery large flowered climber). It is reputed to be a wichurana hybrid. If that is the case, it seems as if it should be more cold hardy than the zone 6 assigned to it by HMF. It is on a similar arch to Cl Iceberg, and it has made more progress up the house when it finally got there than Iceberg has. I don't have a picture of it doing that, but here is a cool picture of part of the same bush on its arch with Cl Crimson Glory and the clematis Jackmanii.

Jackie

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 6:05PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Let's try this again.

GET A SOIL TEST!

At some point in time, you are going to need to know the soil pH because it is going to bite you. The sooner you do this, the sooner you can begin to understand the consequences of what you have.

Normal pH around here can be anywhere from 5.0 to 8.0. There are plants that prefer under 6, like multiflora, rugosas, blueberries, and rhododendrons and that entire family. There are things that prefer over 6.5, like lawn grass, lavender, and most vegetables. The usual assumption is that in the northeast, soil is going to be acidic. Since both the Catskills on the west side, and the Taconics on the east side, used to be enormous limestone mountain chains, all that lime has to have gone somewhere. It is in my backyard, and it sounds like it may also be in yours.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 6:47PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

"treatment probably depresses the amount of viral particles temporarily below the threshold level of detection of used diagnostic methods. In the course of further cultivation, the virus recovered-up and re-accumulated to a level of detection. "

Not unexpected, but depressing, nonetheless. Even if only for that particular study.

OT: it's a darned shame that the CAB database isn't accessed by more university systems.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 3:33PM
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henry_kuska

Regarding the comment: "Even if only for that particular study."

The following link gives evidence that I have collected that I feel shows that that study is similar to what others have reported.

http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/discussion_of_whether_virus_have.htm

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 4:55PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Ramblers have long, whippy canes, and don't rebloom. I've seen things like this done with large multiflora ramblers. I have setigera ramblers that seem capable of getting that big. They are traditionally pruned somewhat in the spring, and rather thoroughly redone after they bloom.

Now for the fun part. I am very curious what makes people think this rose is hardy? Where is the coldest place it has been successfully grown? What is the coldest temperature it has seen? In a brief web search, the coldest place I was finding was Providence, RI, on the New England Riviera.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 12:00PM
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Gabrielsyme

Pictures I've seen of Peggy growing at ARE look like she MUST be bigger than 10' in Texas. When I talked with them before buying they said they had customers growing her in Idaho and Michigan and she seemed even happier in cooler zones; re-blooming when the weather cooled off in the fall which I don't think she does down south.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2013 at 3:15PM
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