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Yes, this is the marketing group that brought us the Dream Roses. Their most successful rose promotion was Flower Carpet but that's losing steam now. They have to find a new nitch to stay in roses. They also have promoted other successes and failures. Tropicana canna being one of the better.

I really liked a couple of the Dream roses but cant find them now. I would love to try the Peach and Calypso. Wonder where these roses will be sold?

Good point, I didn't factor in the stock issue and that would make sense. I was wondering why their experts would supposedly want to ship that late as it made no sense to me. Thank you!

At this point, the owners of the J&P name are in fast & furious mode, bent on cashing-in to the max on the last, tattered vestiges of what once was a premium brand.

It's past time for all of us to recognize (and to inform others) that Jackson & Perkins is no longer a reputable source for roses.

Karolina11: ". . . (W)hy would their experts advise differently"?, you asked. There are no experts of the kind you have in mind left at J&P.

Working with the soil and using the suggestions of others who have posted in this thread is fine, as far as I know. It's just the wrong time of year to determine if they are getting enough light.

Smiles,
Lyn

If you are having soil problems, try putting in a raised bed with good soil. Your ph needs to be 6.3-6.5. IF you can't get it there you will have discolored leaves. There are ph charts you can see that shows you what nutrients get locked up at what ph level.

I have a small no spray garden,so I am very selective about what roses I plant as I live in the southeastern mountains. After much research, I planted a big three gallon Cinco De Mayo from a local nursery, knowing full well it black spots in some southeastern gardens and not in others. I also know the first year is not a true measure of the success of a rose in my area, but I'm happy to say the first year has been a great success. It has bloomed literally non stop, has some black spot, but everyone else does, too. The leaves are still full and healthy this late in the season. I love the color and the fragrance; she's a big flouncy party girl, always swirling and dancing in the wind.

Pat_bama - I haven't had it for about 7 years, so I just can't remember what the leaves were like. I'm glad that yours works for you. :)
Carol

Reading this reference on HMF,

"Monographie du Genre RosierEDIT
Book (1824) Page(s) 155.
R. sulfurea Var. minor. Pourpre jaune. This variety does not bloom unless grafted, and that rarely; it is double the former [R. sulpfurea]." R. Hemisphaerica is a synonym for sufphueera. Perhaps what you're looking for might be might be Sulpheraea flore plena? Kim

Here is a link that might be useful: R. Hemisphaerica flore plena

My understanding was it is a sport of species hemisphaerica? My interest is the 2ft stature read from modern roses12.

It is reported blackspot resistant in lots of places. Mine gets a touch of cercospora but not bad. It has excellent shrub habit, foliage, and fast repeat, nearly continuous.

Great to hear Michaelg!

Even though this one is young I've already noticed it has fast repeat.
Heirloom Roses band planted Mid July. They bloomed 2 1/2 weeks after planting and have been repeating quickly ever since.

Pretty much the same issue as Social Security. The money WAS there, until Congress and Presidents figured out how to steal it for other purposes. Both could support themselves, IF their money was used for what it was originally intended for. Kim

I have gotten packages where the boxes were cut up and used as spacers, etc. Seemed wasteful to me to use instead of crushed paper, etc. Maybe since it was a flat rate, they figured why not sacrifice the free clean boxes as packing material. But it makes it tough for the person who wants a box and can't find one. I like to reuse boxes when I can. Sometimes flat rate is a good thing, but its always best to be sure you're not overspending.

Kim, I didn't know those roses were descended from 'The Fairy.' That's interesting.

Jeri

Kim, I didn't know those roses were descended from 'The Fairy.' That's interesting.

Jeri

Jackie, I was suggested to look into two sports of "Bel Ange": "Angel Girl", 1973, U.S.
and "Colin's Salmon", 1970, Australia.

The second one ("Colin's Salmon") seems to be quite a good option! I wonder why it is sold in South America as 'Salmon Ange' and still appears this way in the American Rose Society. I would love to grow the three plants all together to compare.

Here I attach a picture of "Salmon Ange".
Thanks for your reply!

And here another picture of "Salmon Ange". Sorry about the poor quality of the pictures...

Thanks in advance for any contribution!

Wow, you have so much space! MG is right on -- Knock Outs that are pruned to the ground in spring here (northern Virginia) are 6x6 in August. I'm counting the tree trunks in your photo thinking that there will be a lot of root competition and I still vote for nandina or nandina plus perennials. Is there another spot in your yard where you could make an island bed for roses?

Okay, nandina it is. I can put the roses on the other side of my property. Unfortunately, I put them in a perennial bed thinking they wouldn't get much bigger than three feet. Oh well. What perennials do you suggest with the firepower nandina? I'm thinking of geraniums, coreopsis, and heuchera. Maybe also putting in a climbing vine on one or both the corner trees.
Thanks so much!

My pick for a yellow rose is Nacogdoches [named for the oldest town in Texas]. It is a healthy bush and the bloom is a bright non-fading yellow.
Judith

I have decided on the Mellow Yellow rose. There were a lot of great suggestions, THANK YOU. I really don't care much for the grafted roses so I looked at Heirloom's selection (all own root). Heirloom has some real nice roses to choose from and their delivery is fantastic, Mellow Yellow has been delivered and in the ground with not one leaf removed thanks to their packaging & looks to be strong and healthy. Thanks again. Pembroke

I found a crown gall on one rose. I cut it off, poured a bleach solution over the wound and dirt nearby and then covered the wound with pruning seal, on the off chance that I might be able to save the plant, which is a rare variety.

Galls will eventually kill the whole plant. If the soil gets infected, the next rose to live in that spot is at risk. Plants seem to grow slowly and stop flowering and then start dying off. You dig them up and find the galls.