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As well as climate in general; how heavily they're fed; how heavily they're watered, etc. Kim

It's Rules of Thumb. If it says 7' tall, I wouldn't plant it in front of a window with a long view.

Yes, "whatever works" is the theme of my garden! This area is always in partial shade (at best) because of our huge scarlet oak tree, and also 100 year old black walnut street trees. I have several old tea & china roses which bloom happily in this bed, but this is the first modern rose which has been able to cut it at all.

Jackie

I have been surprised that my Morden Sunrise and The Prince are doing so well in the shade. They each get a little sun, but not much. Your Blushing Knockout is quite pretty, Jackie. Diane

Does the yellow consistently start out a clear, strong yellow? Does the yellow fade toward off-white as the flower ages? Or toward pink at the edges? Or not change?
There aren't that many unfading clear yellow hybrid teas, and Oregold (1975) was, they say, the first. It was widely distributed.

Or, perhaps, 'Sunsprite.' That's always been a terrific garden rose.

Jeri

Am I imagining it, or did I just get an email in the past few days saying that "Portland's Best Rose" for 2013 was Sugar Moon? When I Google it, I can't find it, and I don't know the rose at all, but it got spectacular comments.

I agree with Jeri - the best advice you will get on here is from folks who live in the same area you do. Please give us an approximate location, and then I'm sure locals will chime in with suggestions which will really be useful.

Many people do not realize that roses, even modern hybrid tea or shrub roses, all do better in some places than in others, for various reasons.

Jackie

Very pretty. It could be a seedling dropped by a bird, or it could be an old planted rose that had not been getting enough sunlight to bloom in previous years. If the flowers are quite small and the canes long and flexible, it is an old rambler. These often survive in vacant lots and can travel a good distance from the original spot.

Cool!

Followup to my original post:

Almost a yeat later, Paw Maw went on to become my healthiest hybrid tea :)

Thank you, Tammy, for the posting! The growths in the pictures you posted looks EXACTLY like those on a pink Hybrid Tea I rooted last year. I saw it last Sunday, and my heart sank as i thought it was RRD. I almost yanked the poor thing out of the ground right there before deciding I should learn a bit more on RRD before removing it.

RRD seems fairly bad near where I live. You saw lots of diseased multiflora along the road side. The rose garden at the Brooklyn Botanical Garden has a sign that says that they have to replace their roses due to RRD. This scared me a bit as they are in the middle of Brooklyn (thus far fewer multiforas) and can presumably contro/eradicate l the mutifloria in area sourounding their rose garden. If they have to contend with RRD, imagine what gardeners in subaburns/rural ereas have to do.... Fingers crossed.

Yes, it is genetic in origin but expressed only under certain weather conditions. If it is a repeat-blooming rose, it should bloom normally later in the season. Would you share the name of the variety?

Thank you for your comments, that's very helpful. I'm afraid I don't know the variety -but I'll ask locally.

Lol, this so many wonderful selections I'm having a hard time picking!

I found a 3 gallon America rose at a private nursery, I remembered the name from this thread and it was the only fragrant rose in the lot, so I went for it.
It has a lovely salmon pink color that turned out to be a great compromise between the decking and white building.
The clematis Perle d' Azur is trained up the wall and the rose went in front of it next to a Clematis Arabella intended to scramble trough the border.
What surprised me was how much clay I found about 2 feet down while back digging the bed.
I dunked two bags of mushroom compost and mixed it up with two bags of fine gravel and one bag of sand but I'm kind of worried about what will happen to the root a few years down the line? Any predictions?
Is this enough amending ?

I left the hose on to soak the bush, a small trickle for about 45 mins, and when the bed was over flowing I turned it off and it took about 25 mins for the standing water to drain away. This was after I had replaced about 8'x2'x2' of the old dirt.

Anybody with more experience who can give me more insight on how this will play in to it's health?
There's a few spots on the leaves that I suspect is the dreaded blackspot.
I live inland, due west of Chicago, so not exactly coastal climate but still lots of humidity in the summer.
I made sure to clear about a foot between plant and wall and also at some distance from where another rosebush been before, I cleared about 2 feet from the original site but I essentially replaced all the dirt as well. I made sure of sinking the bush level with the dirt in the pot per instructions.

As far as I could discern, it's not a grafted plant, I felt up the trunk all the way down the to the ball of dirt and felt no bump.

I'm very drawn to the Romantica and English roses and am interested to learn more about the two series,
My new Colette is coming in this weekend with a Stormy weather who's supposedly a purple rose. These will be my trial experience before I commit to a full rose garden.

I understand ramblers only bloom once, no?
How do I know the difference between a rambler and a
climber?
What is the difference between a Grandiflora and a Wicheriiana?
My roses must be of the resilient kind and besides generous amounts of mushroom compost and a good trellis will have to fend for themselves. No spray, no chemicals.
I'm staying clear of any grafted stock and no Tea roses.
What would be the best US purveyors of either the Romantica or the English series? Is it possible to buy rootstock older than a year trough mail order?
Also, can anyone advice me on good online sources for reading up on the different categories ?

I'd like to hear from someone who grows the Zepherine Drouhin, Queen of Sweden, or the Polka in zone 5.
My priorities are as follows: Repeat bloom, disease resistance, fragrance, cut life, color...
God bless and thank you!
Kerstin

Oh vey, I just looked up a picture of Japanese Beetles.
Last year, after I moved two unamed roses, they were loused with these beetles! Like no foliage was showing for all the beetles crawling around on it!
I read they breed in the ground, does that mean they'll be back this year?
How do I deal with this? Do they go after Clematis as well or is this restricted to roses only?
Anything I can do to nip it on the bud? I haven't seen any grubs in the dirt while digging but plenty of those lil brown ones that looks like a bug version of a armadillo..
Any advice greatly appreciated!

The Zephirine Drouhin came from Humber Nurseries which is close to Toronto/Brampton, the others I will check their tags in a bit and see were they came from as they were purchased from a local walmart and lowes.

While it is upsetting to know that I may have roses dying in a short while, I have learned a good lesson. However, some of the unidentified roses which were purchased at Walmart are doing very well in my garden. Maybe l have gotten lucky. When I have my own place I will seek out the nurseries you have recommended. This is my mothers yard, and so I do hope the roses I planted will last. I just wanted to fill in her yard quickly since I am staying with her for a while and have the time to do so (new graduate that is job-hunting!).

Here is what I gathered. I hope this is helpful.

Portrait, Hybrid Tea Rose - AARS but grown in Canada
Chuckles, Sub-zero Rose - Own root, product of USA
Hansa, Hybrid Rugosa - Product of USA, potted in Canada (part of Pan American Nursery, Canada)
Zéphirine Drouhin, Climbing Rose - Humber Nurseries. Tag is missing.
Climbing America, Climbing Rose - AARS, product of USA
John Davis, Climbing Rose - Product of the USA, potted in Canada (part of Pan American Nursery, Canada)
Pink Supreme, Flower Carpet - Pan American Nursery (Canada)
Appleblossom, Flower Carpet - Pan American Nursery (Canada)

The following are of unknown origin and type, but all purchased at Walmart in the GTA.

Mini Kordana Roses, Various
Unidentified, Red Climbing Rose (Blaze, Don Juan?)
Unidentified, Yellow Climbing Rose (Golden Showers?)
Unidentified, White Climbing Rose, sometimes soft pink (Iceberg?)

My red rose, the one I believe is Blaze or possibly Don Juan is doing very well, it is pretty much to the top of my fence now, and this is its second year.

My white (iceberg?) rose has been around for 3-4 years now and is doing well, although it is a bit slow to grow.

The yellow was planted the same time as the red, but I have moved its location, so I think I may have hindered its growth, though it looks like it is about to bloom a good amount very shortly.

All roses, identified or not, look healthy. I hope everything will be alright. Most of the roses seem to be products of the USA but have been potted or grown in Canada. Maybe they'll last? They came in large black squarish pots or long green ones with lids..

No publicity is bad publicity. ;-)

Yes Kim, I cut out the rose name story from my first response. I'm glad they added that edit feature. I was just chatting away at you like we were sitting here having a cup of coffee talking roses. Then after I thought about it I decided it might not be too appropriate to post that one on the forum. Never thought about you getting it in your inbox. Well, I'm glad you got a chuckle out of it, anyway.

1. Yes
2. Doesn't matter, we discuss Austins in both forums.
3. Yes, but it depends on the variety and your location.

See the thread linked below for a recent thread on disease resistant Austins. Austin roses are typically in the (modern) Shrub class. There is nothing different in care than other roses.

Here is a link that might be useful: Blackspot Resistant David Austin Roses

Andrea, this is how the addiction begins. Generous Gardener climbing up my porch.

Beautiful pictures! Thanks for posting!

That distance drum is so beautiful. Please keep the pictures coming.

Alcohol will kill just about any organisms it comes in contact with, and it doesn't pit metal. It is an excellent disinfectant

But it is also quite expensive especially for the end of work soaking. If you only have a few roses to work with. no problem. With the amount of pruning, deadheading, and removing of dead and diseased wood that we do on an almost-daily basis, it's just too expensive for us. We had to find a more economical, yet still effective, product to use. YMMV

I use my alcohol over and over, I keep it in a coffee-can, inside a larger can-pail... I keep 2 clippers in the larger can and rotate them, it's 'clip-dip....clip-dip....clip-dip.... when I'm done w/my 150 +- roses I just put the lid back on my smaller coffee-can w/alcohol, and it's ready for the next foray, I get a 16 oz. jar of alcohol at Publix and it lasts for months, cost under $2. No need to throw it out, usually I have to add more to the coffee-can only when I knock it over with my clumsy feet! works for me....sally