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dublinbay z6 (KS)

If your plants are coming bareroot, they've probably been kept in the freezer throughout the winter, so just soak them overnight in a bucket of water so they dont' dry out (in the garage, for instance, away from the light) and then plant them.

If they are coming planted in a pot, I might leave them outside in a semi-protected spot for several days to make sure they are hardened off--and then plant them.

50-60 degrees isn't really cold for a rose. Worry when the temps drop down to 18 degrees--OK? : )

Kate

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 9:26AM
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alameda/zone 8

I live 3 hours from ARE - we have been having on and off temps of 50-60 and had 3 days of freezing weather last week. Your roses will come in pots and you will be delighted. I would protect them from extreme wind, etc. for a few days then plant them. Remember, Peggy survived hurricane Katrina - I would imagine 50 degrees sounds like heaven! I would mound with mulch or chopped leaves when you plant.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2013 at 12:58AM
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collinw(7b)

That is not Kerria Japonica. Bloom and form of bush are wrong. I agree that it is Lady Banks. It is a wonderful rose that will happily take over if you let it!

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 10:43PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

HEY, DUDE! I had a thought this afternoon . . .

If you liked the look of R. banksia lutea, and maybe think you could go for the same thing in WHITE -- but you want a remontant (re-blooming) rose . . .

HOW ABOUT . . . 'PUREZZA' . . . ???? ("The Pearl")

Bred in Italy by Mansuino, this is a cross of R. banksia lutea and 'Tom Thumb' (a teeny Micro-Miniature). It is a bit less rampant than the pure Banksiaes -- but definitely gives the same effect.

I'm pretty sure it will put on more bloom in Texas heat than it does here in my coastal chill -- but here's what it looks like (see below).

I have more photos, if you're interested.

Jeri

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 6:54PM
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GardenWannabe007

Thanks for the advice, I will do so.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 2:40PM
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kittymoonbeam

If it keeps stretching in one direction, you could put a few stakes behind it to tie it up but I think it will be fine without a support.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 6:30PM
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Krista_5NY

There are some roses that are thornless, although most have thorns.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 5:38PM
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Krista_5NY

Your roses might not be dead; there could be live cane below the soil line, or at the soil line. I would prune off the dead wood, and see what happens this spring.

I'm not familiar with Don Juan, but it might be prone to dieback in a cold zone.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 5:32PM
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catsrose(VA 6)

The current stake is unnecessary and you will have at least two years before you really have to decide on a support. The bamboo tripod will work up a certain height, depending on how tall the rose gets. You may want a tall trellis or pillar of some sort.

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 9:59PM
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GardenWannabe007

Thanks, will do so, I'll then just let it grow upwards for now.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 2:40PM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Any guess what "rose sectarian" might be?

Also why the species 'multiflora' got attached to a local rose that from the picture looks a lot more like a Damask?

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 11:28AM
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jaxondel

Ann -- I'm mystified by "rose sectarian" too. My first inclination was to guess that the writers might be referring broadly to hybridized varieties of roses. Then reading the article linked below (3rd) paragraph, I wondered if perhaps the term they're reaching for might have a geographical connotation -- "sector", for instance.

At any rate, there are obvious problems with translation throughout both articles. Perhaps we're reading the results of a computerized auto-translation program. The final sentence of the linked article probably says all we need to know.

Here is a link that might be useful: Taif, City of Roses

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 2:26PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

HT = Hybrid Tea.

I caution on standards (aka. "Tree" roses) in colder zones. They are usually not winter hardy, and will need to be protected (usually by bringing into a sheltered area) in the winter months. I won't recommend them to be planted here (although several local nurseries sell them), I am on the border of zones 6b/7a.

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 9:31AM
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victory_tea2085(z6 Ny)

Going by what you 2 say, think I'll try to focus on another flowering plant. Have an "orange" garden and am having trouble finding this color in shrubs- any suggestions? Thanks, Paul

    Bookmark   April 2, 2013 at 8:45AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I'd be more inclined to think that damage was the result of over-enthusiastic pruning, by people who don't know what they're doing. Even the director of the garden has a background in Camellias -- NOT roses.

It's really very sad.
Almost all of the Secret Garden Musk Climbers in commerce today trace back to the two plants at the entrance to the Children's "hidden garden" there. (And don't ask me why I know that to be true. )

There are Alister Clark roses there that you just can't get here. And there are all those Japanese-bred roses.

Jeri

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 1:07PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Gorgeous! I love going on your field trips Kitty. Thank you for sharing.
Susan

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 11:07PM
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susan4952(5)

I like the Grant's Ant stakes. They work really well.

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 9:50PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

We've always had good luck with Grant's Ant Stakes (but make sure pets/children cannot access them -- and cannot get to ant granules).

Once the ants are gone, buy a big package of CINNAMON STICKS, AND STICK THOSE IN THE SOIL. They will discourage ants.

Jeri

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 10:40PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Welcome to rose gardening, it can be fun, and a bit addictive as you have already showed signs of the latter, lol. My first concern with your post was the comment of lots and lots of shade. Your roses will want lots and lots of sun, at the minimum 6 hours worth so find sunny locations for your new roses. Other than that like others have posted read everything you can on how to plant a rose correctly from the start, that's the most important thing in my opinion. After that, roses are not low maintenance plants but they are so rewarding that their proper care is well worth it. Bookmark this site and read it frequently, I have learned so much here!

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 7:24AM
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intris(6)

"predfern" offered some very good advice. I was going to type something along the same lines. (great minds think alike?)
I read an article the other day that I think you might be interested in. They have some further recommendations for roses hardy in your zone (and some even colder!). The skinny of it is that these roses are distantly descended from the species roses from the North American prairies as opposed to the Tea roses from China.

You might also want to check the local extension office associated with the university and see what roses they think would do well.

Best of luck! We'd love to see the fruit of your labors. :D

Here is a link that might be useful: HMF - Canadian Roses, Eh?

This post was edited by intris on Mon, Apr 1, 13 at 17:51

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 5:49PM
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kstrong(10 So Cal)

I've got Sparkle & Shine -- really good rose -- go for it. It's a healthy, vigorous bloom machine here.

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 3:09PM
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Terry Crawford

Fuzzles thanks you for your compliments. He came to our home as a 7-month old that someone had dumped, and is now a treasured 3-year old member of our household. I cannot imagine life in the garden without my boy 'helping me'. He makes me laugh, sits up and 'taps' for treats, and keeps vermin out of the roses. He is quite the hunter...all 15 lbs. of boy.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 7:40PM
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rosarama

I once saw a lady walking her dog near my roses. I sweetly told her she had a beautiful dog but to be careful as my yard was full of pesticides that could harm the little beauty. She walked away quickly and has not been back.

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 3:03PM
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peachiekean(z10A CA)

I grow hybrid musks for their ability to withstand half day sun. A good 5x5 is the Jeri Jennings rose which can be found at Rogue Valley Roses. Soft yellow, blooms in clusters, smells nice, disease free and little if any pruning needed. I have mine in the same exposure you require and it's one of my favorites.

Here is a link that might be useful: Jeri Jennings Rose

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 11:11PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Just want to say thank you to everyone for all your help. I went to the nursery and I came home with "Grimm Bros.Fairy Tale

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 2:26PM
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Pamela20621

Thanks so much for all your input! The roses do not have to be knock outs - I was just thinking of them because I have had great luck with them in other areas of my property. They have been super sturdy for me, and shrug off drought summer after summer. I also appreciate that after the Japanese Beetles decimate them in July (I don't use pesticide anywhere,) they come right back for the rest of the season. If you can suggest other roses that are equally rugged, I am all ears. Thank you again for your suggestions!

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 8:17PM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

I think a soft pink is right with the blue of a hydrangea.

    Bookmark   April 1, 2013 at 10:44AM
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