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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Steve, your roses all seem to be doing fine, but I did just want to mention that in most climates, and of course especially the dry ones, roses really need to be mulched to be at their best. You may already be doing this but I noticed that the two short roses had bare ground around them. My roses really improved after I began mulching more, and of course with the scarcity of water in many places it's also a bonus that the mulch will keep the roots moist longer.

I had bunches of Glendora at one time since they were so easy to root and agree that this is one tough rose. It probably loved its haircut. Mine tended to get rangy if not pruned enough.

ingrid

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 4:13PM
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deervssteve(9)

All my roses except the three hybrid teas I just planted have been in the ground for 20 years. Before the great deer onslaught of the 90's I had bark down. I have roses particularly climbers all over the yard. But my "rose garden" just went from the two plants I photographed to five. I guess I'll mulch that area to protect the babies.

Between The squirrels an and the elements my drip watering system is toast. I use a lawn type sprayer (not rainbird) and soak the roses once a week. I'ts worked fine.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 10:14PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

I did a quick Advanced Search on HMF by country and got the most hits when I used "yellow blend" for the color criteria. Of course we don't have photos of all of the roses introduced in Australia, but there was one breeder in the early 1970s that introduced several roses that seem to be very similar to the rose in your photos. His name is George Dawson.

You could look up all of his roses by going to his breeder page on HMF and looking at the PLANTS BRED. It's a start.

Two of his roses that looked similar or had a description the sounded like it might be your rose are:

Great Venture
Olive McKenzie

The Roseville College Rose bred by Ronald J. Bell and introduced in 1990 is another candidate.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 1:23AM
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nastarana(5a)

You might try posting your pix on the Q&A forum at Help Me Find. There are some very knowledgeable Australian rosarians who are frequent posters at HMF who might recognize your rose. .

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 7:55PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Quite a few of my roses are already showing mildew and I have tons of aphids but I'm ignoring the negatives in favor of the positives, which is that quite a few of the roses have begun blooming, many of them the teas. Every day I check each of my about 80 roses as though some miracle could have been wrought overnight, and it's especially exciting with the new roses that I haven't seen bloom before like Devoniensis, Lady Alice Stanley, Duchess of Albany, Chaucer, Pink Rosette, Marjorie Palmer, Pink Soupert, Pink Lafayette and a few others. Almost equally exciting is to see some of the roses from the previous year like Pretty Jessica, Baptiste LaFaye, White Meidiland, Amazone and Bon Silene that hadn't really done much and now look ready to give me at least a few blooms. It's a big thrill every single spring and I don't think that will ever change.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 4:23PM
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t_bred(5)

Good to hear there is hope in sight! I'm still waiting to see what lived and what didn't through the winter- too early to tell.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 5:36PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Sure wish I could!

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 5:18PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Happy Easter All!

For the big croppers that's probably the case but I still like to think there is a niche for the small guys to produce some of these beauties that are a little less vigorous. I hate to think that we would just lose something really good just because it doesn't grow fast enough for the mass producers. Granted John Doe from Anytown might not be interested in it but there are a lot of real rose people who would be and are. That's why so many of us have been known to hunt for years and beg, borrow and steal if we have to to get a variety we've fallen in love with.

I fell in love with Canadian White Star. I hunted for it for several years and finally Hortico had it listed as available. It took me three tries to finally give in to the fact that George Mander was right about his own rose. It isn't very vigorous and is hard to grow and winter successfully. I still wish I could though!

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 2:45PM
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roseseek

Canadian White Star was REALLY expensive ordered directly from Mr. Mander way back when he initially introduced it. Those gorgeous, rose porn photos in the ARS publications were so terribly seductive. But, he was right, it is definitely a cold weather rose. I don't remember how many years I coddled that blamed thing until I replaced it with a rose happy to be where I was, but I did give it my best try. It grew, it was acceptably healthy but it never produced those perfect flowers. And, it had zero scent, really nothing to recommend it for hot gardens. When I think of how much my "rose education" has cost me....Kim

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 3:26PM
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susan9santabarbara

Kitty,

Are you sure you actually have Sharifa Asma? The reason I ask is that it definitely does not have a myrrh fragrance. It has a very strong complex old rose fragrance. I also don't find its petals to be translucent. I have had two of them for many years and your comment about the fragrance made me wonder about what you may have.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 12:18AM
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harmonyp

I have found numerous "special finds" at nurseries that have looked pretty tattered. I found 5 Austins at a nursery that had changed hands a few years ago. The new nursery only carried Weeks, and had these Austins that had never sold from the old nursery that they finally reduced to $12 a piece to move them. It's no wonder they hadn't moved, as they looked pretty terrible. Poor The Mayflower only had about 20 leaves in early fall. It was a stretch to take her home but I figured what the heck as I could tell she was still alive. I picked the best of the 4 Geoff Hamilton's. He was covered in PM, but the 2 little blooms with their super deep cups had such tantalizing form I just had to give him a try. Christopher Marlow had terrible chlorosis. Sharifa Asma and Windermere were better, but still not of the quality of the one you show.

They went into the ground last fall. I did remove all the leaves this winter. This spring they are covered with perfectly heatlhy foliage and look fabulous. I'm so glad I took the chance now. As I watch Mary Rose in her 3rd year just explode with buds, and Princess Alexandra of Kent in her 2nd year giving me the first of her perfect blooms, I'm in heaven.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 7:58AM
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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

Thanks. I'll do that.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 8:21PM
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harmonyp

Yes, thank you. Wasn't aware that there was already a procedure in place to handle these. Perfect!

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 7:51AM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

I haven't had it but I understand that antifungals are used to treat it. Wikipedia has a symptoms and treatment article. Sounds very curable.

Because we handle compost and also prune hundreds of roses for a fund raiser every year our dermatologist is concerned about MRSA. We double glove and use Mupirocin ointment when we get a thorn puncture or garden related abrasion.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 12:35AM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Susan, yes it definitely has some funky canes. I want to prune it, but it will have to wait until after it blooms. However, its not near anything, so I may just leave it as-is and let it do its species thing :)

Tammy

Here's a picture of it (I sooo need to get some mulch delivered!)

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 5:00PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Thanks Tammy. My canes are funkier than yours, I believe. Some of the canes have more curves than a kiddie coaster!
Can't wait to see it green up and bloom. Prickles are very different too.
Susan

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 9:29PM
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seil zone 6b MI

That saucer could be part of the problem. I always remove all saucers from my roses. Yes, the water drains out but then the bottom of the pot and that drainage hole sits in the water. Roses don't like to sit in water.

I really think this doesn't have anything to do with the soil being alkaline. The rose is just unhappy with it's conditions. Roses do not grow well indoors so take it out as soon as possible. Either take the saucer off or fill it full of pebbles so the bottom of the pot is above any water that goes into the tray.

    Bookmark   March 28, 2013 at 6:37PM
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evilscott(USDA=10, Sunset=24)

Roses have/need a dormant period. They will make one on their own when it is time.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 3:40PM
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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

OK, I read the directions and I can apply it anytime the ground is not frozen. So I will apply it next week when I'm off of work. I bought the powder form, not the granular.

kentstar

    Bookmark   March 27, 2009 at 8:55PM
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bethfriend

I have tunnels and mounds all over my yard. Should I apply milky spore now-April (Maryland.)Any other suggestions?

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 12:08PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Not Loppers, but Costco has in some pruners that look EXACTLY like Felcos -- even to having the extra parts. It's a set of two pruners, one larger and one smaller.

Will they last as long as Felcos?
I don't know -- but at $25. for a set of two pruners, they're sure worth a try.

Jeri

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 7:42PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Jeri, I was so sad last year, I was going to buy a set and a gardening company must have beat me to the store and bought out the entire supply.

I got mom and I a set this year, I still want the rotating handle felco, but with a big garden and a ton of places to loose clippers-the costco price was too good to turn down.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 11:47PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Nummy, the shape and height will be determined largely by the variety of rose. They all have their own growth habits. For instance my PJPII is on the short side but grows a little wider. Memorial Day on the other hand is tall and lanky.

You can start planting when the soil is "friable". That means you can take a handful of soil and squeeze and when you open your hand the soil should crumble back apart easily, not stay in a damp clump. My ground is still frozen an inch beneath the surface so it will be a few weeks before I can even dig a hole. I'd pot those roses up for a while. It will keep them moister and healthier until you can plant them. What ever you do don't let them dry out. That's the kiss of death.

Today was beautiful! My snowdrops finally opened, my crocus are blooming and my dwarf iris Katherine Hodgkins bloomed! Yippee!

I'll start cleaning up the beds of debris this week and will peel off the layer of leaves on the top of the pot ghetto. I will wait and watch the weather before I pull them out completely though. I've been stung before with a late freeze.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 8:07PM
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susan4952(5)

We are getting there....slowly but surely.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 11:13PM
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DisplacedClevelander(6a)

Kittymoonbeam & seil-- thank you x 20

Burlington has her and she'll be shipping on Monday.
And seil, you're right-- the Burlington woman was a
genuine delight.

Will be sure to post a photo if/when she blooms
before I pass her along to my mother in law.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 9:50PM
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kittymoonbeam

I hope she's extra nice to you. What a sweet gift that is

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 9:56PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I do understand, Mad, but I live on the Great Lakes and BS is rampant here too. It's a humidity soup bowl all year. I can count on having it. I just have decide that I don't have to stress out if the roses aren't perfect or spot free all of the time. I've learned to except it. The blooms are still beautiful anyway.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 3:08PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

No. It is like somebody in zone 7 telling somebody in zone 4 that they know all about hardiness and winterkill because they sometimes lose a rose also.

Lake Erie is also a Great Lake and a source of humidity. The Atlantic Ocean is just a wee bit bigger.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 6:41PM
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