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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Are they only at the bottom of the plant? Is is speading? Are they on all plants? They could be the plant shedding old leaves, which will sometimes show disease because they are weak.

On the moving, moving while dormant is always preferred, but if you have to do it sooner, go for it.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 2:21PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

I'm doubting blackspot as well. I have alot of experience with blackspot on my roses here in 7b S.C. May I ask if you have sprayed these roses with anything recently, or sprayed around them?

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 7:13PM
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Night_Stalker(7a NYC)

This rose is to replace a rosebush that was there for years until her neighbors accidentally destroyed it.

The old rosebush just grew straight up. It didn't require any sort of pruning, tying, or training.

What sort of red climbing rose does that?

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 1:04PM
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farmerduck

The Brooklyn Botanical Garden has a number of well-established Dublin Bay. If you go this week, I should still catch the end of the Spring bloom cycle. You can take a look and see if you like it. Blaze is rose red, not true red, and the color scheme is similar to red double knockout (i.e., purplish reddish/deep pink).

Also, get Blaze Improved, which reportedly has better repeat. I have BI, which is not spetacular, but the flowers last and last.... It is starting to defoliate now, though, because of blackspot. I have BI growing by the side of Laguna, whch is another climber that does very well in our area and is also purplish/rose pink. The NY Botanical Garden has several breathtaking Laguna specimans.

Laguna has better flower form, is more fragrant, more disease resistant, but is armed with far, far more thorns than BI and stiffer canes, which makes it a little hard to train.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 2:36PM
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NOACCEPTANCE772(8a)

Thanks for the replies!
I think i forgot to elaborate, silly me.lol
The pots are on a tub and I placed salt around the bases of the pots.
The tubs are on a concrete floor and all the excess water (Rain, etc) go down a sewage drain.

Good idea, I might try bayer, but here, in Nottingham, we only have the spray type.

I have already finished all the salt and will plan on getting some organic slug killer.
Don't worry, no pets here.
Thou I should consider my neighbour's cat.
I NEED perfect roses! I love my little babies and I don't want anything happening to them! :)
Those slugs cause hefty lot of damage and it was evident from my poor little chrysanthemum.

Thanks for the replies and advice!

~Noacceptance772

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 12:22PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

My most favorite quote is by Jack Harkness in his book Roses published in 1978. I think what he wrote still holds true:

"Roses are food for insects and fungi, both of whom must be deeply grateful to mankind for planting so many larders for them. The chemical industry provides specifics to deal with them; and, as they are apt to improve their products one after the other, like bell ringers waiting for their turn on the rope, there is a strong chance that between my writing your your reading X will be withdrawn and Y will be sold instead. Learn to recognize the more important troubles you are likely to meet; and then obtain from your garden shop the appropriate specific. Apply it promptly because propagation in the world of insects and fungi occurs as fast as a brush fire."

I don't think it matters whether the "specific" used is considered organic or chemical. In Harkness's time, gardeners relied more on chemical solutions than many of us do today for many garden problems.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 1:14PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks for sharing another lovely picture, Steve. Seems like Olympiad stays pretty a long time. Jeri - I don't think you are being contrary about it having a light fragrance, after all fragrance is subjective. The other evening my daughter took a whiff of a Midas Touch and acted like it was almost intoxicating, to me it has a very light fragrance. Grand Amore is another lovely red, I do like to try the different reds to compare them and there are several really good ones.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 11:50PM
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SoFL Rose z10

Also I noticed she seems to shoot out three branches where ever i cut a rose off (all my other HT only shoot out one, rarely two) which makes her a much bushier shape than normal HT roses. She also puts out flower on each of those three shoots, so she's very floriforous. Has anyone else noticed this about her? I wonder if this is her nature or if its the Rose Tone i gave her. I give all my roses rose tone but I accidentally gave her a very large helping of it and she seems to have loved it. (Luckily because we all know over fertilizing can be disastrous!)

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 7:40AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I seen that stuff on one of our roses a couple weeks ago.
I just thought someone spit on it...lol

Spittle bug...I'll have to look that bug up ...

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 6:01PM
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roseseek(9)

We get spittle bug here all the time on rosemary and lavenders. I just hose them off and they usually don't come back. No need for chemicals or even soaps. A strong stream of plain old hose water does the trick. Kim

    Bookmark     June 17, 2013 at 3:12AM
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A Rosey Father's DayHappy Father's Day
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merlcat(7a)

Beautiful, Susan4952!
Thank you for posting this wonderful picture! :)

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 8:49PM
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lesmc

So pretty.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 10:04PM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

I would go on line and google images of rosé deficiency or problems. You could find something g that matches what you are seeing with a diagnosis. description and suggested treatment.

Ortho and others have "growing roses" books that can be helpful too.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 4:52PM
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andreark

I think Jerijen is right. Of my first 6 roses planted a little over a year ago, First Prize is the only one not gorgeous, healthy, and reaching for the sky. It is coming along VERY slowly. It is planted in the ground with everything wonderful that I can give it. The others have responded very well....First Prize. I wouldn't buy again. It had BS the worst and just looks puny. Since the others are so happy and healthy, I can only surmise that this rose doesn't like me OR where we live.

You should at least, get it into the ground.

andrea

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 6:08PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Most reliable safe and harmless deterrant for deer, rabbits, etc is The Scarecrow by Contech.
Seriously, it's the only thing that's reliably worked for me and i don't have to look at ugly chicken wire, spray liquid that washes off, etc.

They're $50 but worth the investment when you consider the amount of money you put into your yard. I got mine from Do My own Pest Control. It arrived in 8-9 days. (you don't have to apply the silly beak and eye stickers. Mine's all black and can hardly see it)
There are lots of videos on YouTube about it. For the smaller critters it's helpful to point it slightly downward.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 4:35AM
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Lady_of_Shalott(FL 9b)

I am so sorry to hear about your roses. I have tree squirrels in my backyard and they are real pest. They dig up all of my plants in pots including several herbs that I was trying to grow. They also stand on the pot and eat the hibiscus leaves. They haven't eaten any of my roses as yet. But this morning I had a bud on Evelyn and later when I came out, I noticed that it was gone. Not sure if it was the squirrel. I have two dogs which I just let loose in the yard whenever I spot them. Lately, I haven't seen them around much. Hope you can find a solution.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 6:01PM
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ladyrose65

Thanks for the rose suggestions, I will be looking them up.

    Bookmark     April 14, 2013 at 12:50AM
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eclecticcottage(6b wny)

I have Queen O The Lakes, and she's covered in blooms with the first one open now. This is year #2 here for that particular plant. It's up close to the house, but we do get high winds here and it seemed uneffected by them.

This is my the open bloom

This post was edited by eclecticcottage on Sun, Jun 16, 13 at 22:34

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 12:57PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Rabbits will eat thorns and all...lol
They mostly just eat smaller tender growth here.
When the roses get larger they leave them alone.
But that's here and our rabbits...
So protect your smaller roses until they grow
bigger...

In the winter when food gets scarce rabbits will really eye
up those smaller rose stems...

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 10:40AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I agree there is probably a damage by some critter. Rabbits tend to strip off the leaflets and leave the leaf stem. They also nip off new growth tips (as do deer).

If you decide to keep it--the black areas are cankers (fungal infections of the bark) that have girdled the stem and caused the part above to die back. These canes should be cut to a bud eye (leaf stem or bump where one used to be) at least one inch below the canker. Then they should make healthy new growth from the bud eye. With the dead lateral cane that is cankered at the very base, you can just take this off where it attaches.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 10:48AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

In your zone, it should be enough to push them against the south foundation of the house and pile leaves (if you have them) around the pots. You need to be more concerned about the root ball than the canes.

The unheated garage should also work. A slab or dirt floor will conduct heat from the earth, so do not insulate the pots from the slab.

Check the soil moisture every 2-4 weeks and don't let it get totally dry. Don't try to overwinter roses in the house. Keep them cold (ideally 20-40 degrees most of the time).

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 10:05AM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

There's a quiet space on the side of my home. Pavers create the walkway and I have placed a bistro table and two chairs next to the house. Because it is a quiet place, my garden colors are soft and calming. White iceberg roses and climbers, agapanthus, blue iris, blue plumbago, and thyme which will have a soft lavender flower create the color scheme.

Around the corner is a different story. It is where the grilling area, covered patio, and swimming pool are. This area is often lively and much of it is subjected to many hours of Las Vegas heat and direct sunlight. Subdued colors cannot withstand the sun. Also, I want this part of the garden to look alive, lively, not be subdued and calming. As a result, this is where the multi-colored Joseph's Coat lives, Don Juan, America, Mardi Gras, golden celebration, knock out roses, ( so deep red, multi-colored roses that read ivory with rose pink, soft gold, and apricot tones here in the heat, and salmon pink) , and a medium/deep pink floribunda which unfortunately I do not know what the variety is. These are the lively colors. I shy away from bright orange colors in my garden because with the colors already present,
it could be too much for my senses... I prefer apricot or salmon, and use golden yellow sparingly. When I look at color, yellow can be the shockingly brightest color there is.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2013 at 8:28PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Contrast and complimentary colors together. (get out your color wheels!)

I live in the seasonal depression capital. I like things that are bright and cheerful to look at in the garden.
Red tone purple with coral orange and hot pink is vibrant yet works together. White to cool it and make them pop.
Softer versions for blending between colors too.

I never use yellow or true red. Always an off version.

Current combo Fragrant cloud, Sugar moon, Tropicana, Lucille Ball, leonardo Davinci and Stephen's Big purple.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 4:10AM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Thanks for the info, Kate. For an "easy" rose it seems a bit temperamental. I have it in what I would consider an ideal spot but I'm willing to move it or do whatever I have to if at the end I have a rose that looks like yours. I don't think mine will ever have that gorgeous lilac pink color since my soil is alkaline, alas.

Ingrid

    Bookmark     June 15, 2013 at 8:01PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Susan, I wanted to mention how elegant your wisteria is (that's a plant not very many gardeners grow, at least around here), and the spirea is lovely, too.

Pat your roses are abundant and so lush and healthy looking. Your cute sign reminds us to focus on the beauty of roses and forget for a moment all the chores waiting to be done.

view1ny, your James Galway and Teasing Georgia make a luscious view.

Jackie, a look into your garden transports me me back to an earlier time--there has got to be a secret garden in those lush plantings, and I'd love to find it, at least in my imagination.

Diane

    Bookmark     June 16, 2013 at 2:24AM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

I am not familiar with the varieties you listed, just the actual colors listed:) A lavender rose could be lovely with your color scheme. I am not familiar with your zone but, if you can grow Austin's , Young Lycidas could be an option. It has a strong fragrance, good repeat and is a gorgeous rose.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2013 at 8:38PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

You might search this site for Oshun--I remember some posts about her--she was quite lovely, if I remember correctly.

Or check her out at helpmefind.com--wonderful resource.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 15, 2013 at 9:07PM
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