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Mendocino_Rose(z8 N CA.)

Thanks. I'll do that.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 8:21PM
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harmonyp

Yes, thank you. Wasn't aware that there was already a procedure in place to handle these. Perfect!

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 7:51AM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

I haven't had it but I understand that antifungals are used to treat it. Wikipedia has a symptoms and treatment article. Sounds very curable.

Because we handle compost and also prune hundreds of roses for a fund raiser every year our dermatologist is concerned about MRSA. We double glove and use Mupirocin ointment when we get a thorn puncture or garden related abrasion.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2013 at 12:35AM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Susan, yes it definitely has some funky canes. I want to prune it, but it will have to wait until after it blooms. However, its not near anything, so I may just leave it as-is and let it do its species thing :)

Tammy

Here's a picture of it (I sooo need to get some mulch delivered!)

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 5:00PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Thanks Tammy. My canes are funkier than yours, I believe. Some of the canes have more curves than a kiddie coaster!
Can't wait to see it green up and bloom. Prickles are very different too.
Susan

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 9:29PM
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seil zone 6b MI

That saucer could be part of the problem. I always remove all saucers from my roses. Yes, the water drains out but then the bottom of the pot and that drainage hole sits in the water. Roses don't like to sit in water.

I really think this doesn't have anything to do with the soil being alkaline. The rose is just unhappy with it's conditions. Roses do not grow well indoors so take it out as soon as possible. Either take the saucer off or fill it full of pebbles so the bottom of the pot is above any water that goes into the tray.

    Bookmark   March 28, 2013 at 6:37PM
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evilscott(USDA=10, Sunset=24)

Roses have/need a dormant period. They will make one on their own when it is time.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 3:40PM
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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

OK, I read the directions and I can apply it anytime the ground is not frozen. So I will apply it next week when I'm off of work. I bought the powder form, not the granular.

kentstar

    Bookmark   March 27, 2009 at 8:55PM
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bethfriend

I have tunnels and mounds all over my yard. Should I apply milky spore now-April (Maryland.)Any other suggestions?

    Bookmark   March 30, 2013 at 12:08PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Not Loppers, but Costco has in some pruners that look EXACTLY like Felcos -- even to having the extra parts. It's a set of two pruners, one larger and one smaller.

Will they last as long as Felcos?
I don't know -- but at $25. for a set of two pruners, they're sure worth a try.

Jeri

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 7:42PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Jeri, I was so sad last year, I was going to buy a set and a gardening company must have beat me to the store and bought out the entire supply.

I got mom and I a set this year, I still want the rotating handle felco, but with a big garden and a ton of places to loose clippers-the costco price was too good to turn down.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 11:47PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Nummy, the shape and height will be determined largely by the variety of rose. They all have their own growth habits. For instance my PJPII is on the short side but grows a little wider. Memorial Day on the other hand is tall and lanky.

You can start planting when the soil is "friable". That means you can take a handful of soil and squeeze and when you open your hand the soil should crumble back apart easily, not stay in a damp clump. My ground is still frozen an inch beneath the surface so it will be a few weeks before I can even dig a hole. I'd pot those roses up for a while. It will keep them moister and healthier until you can plant them. What ever you do don't let them dry out. That's the kiss of death.

Today was beautiful! My snowdrops finally opened, my crocus are blooming and my dwarf iris Katherine Hodgkins bloomed! Yippee!

I'll start cleaning up the beds of debris this week and will peel off the layer of leaves on the top of the pot ghetto. I will wait and watch the weather before I pull them out completely though. I've been stung before with a late freeze.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 8:07PM
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susan4952(5)

We are getting there....slowly but surely.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 11:13PM
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DisplacedClevelander(6a)

Kittymoonbeam & seil-- thank you x 20

Burlington has her and she'll be shipping on Monday.
And seil, you're right-- the Burlington woman was a
genuine delight.

Will be sure to post a photo if/when she blooms
before I pass her along to my mother in law.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 9:50PM
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kittymoonbeam

I hope she's extra nice to you. What a sweet gift that is

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 9:56PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I do understand, Mad, but I live on the Great Lakes and BS is rampant here too. It's a humidity soup bowl all year. I can count on having it. I just have decide that I don't have to stress out if the roses aren't perfect or spot free all of the time. I've learned to except it. The blooms are still beautiful anyway.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 3:08PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

No. It is like somebody in zone 7 telling somebody in zone 4 that they know all about hardiness and winterkill because they sometimes lose a rose also.

Lake Erie is also a Great Lake and a source of humidity. The Atlantic Ocean is just a wee bit bigger.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 6:41PM
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kstrong(10 So Cal)

Is there a thornless , disease free red climber that blooms long ?

NO.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 5:47PM
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kris2001(6a - s.e.PA)

I have had eglantyne, winchester white from DA....they all got BS and mildew in my area , but molineaux did not get any disease! So I guess i am in a disease prone area .

I have narrowed down to Victorian beauty/isabella skinner since it blooms long , no disease or thorns.

OR

RdV - But this doesnt get too high my porch has a 12 ft pillar , not long bloom time too...So I am still debating between the 2 !

Both are awesome colors. My porch gets good direct sun till 12:30 and bright reflected sun after that (east facing)

Does it matter where I get these from within USA? Will they all be the same strain?
Thanks much all of you :)

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 6:28PM
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henry_kuska

See the following link for a discusion of Dr. Brownell's roses.

I would expect that, if virused, the chance of it appearing in the first few years would be greater in a cool climate than in a hot climate (the rose virus immune system does not function very well in cool climates for PNRSV - one of the more common rose viruses).

http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/high_temperature_effect_on_pnrsv.htm

Here is a link that might be useful: Discussion of Dr. Brownell's roses

    Bookmark   March 28, 2013 at 7:33PM
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nummykitchen

Tammy -- good luck with your Reine des Violettes! I debated on that one so I can't wait to see how yours turns out!

Thank you very much for that link, Henry! Very interesting and informative read!

This post was edited by nummykitchen on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 18:31

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 6:17PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Susan -- I think pretty much all successful climbers need to be "trained." But I have to admit that SGMC, once given its structure, has pretty much done its own thing.

Looks a little ratty this spring, because we did not prune AT ALL, so I think it needs removal of some old canes. Big job, with something that large. ICK. My back hurts already!

Some folks we know grew MAC up a structure to the top of a latticework patio, where it spread out and bloomed, and I don't think they messed with it much, up there. I guess, up there, they couldn't see the mildew, either.

Jeri

    Bookmark   March 28, 2013 at 10:16PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Jeri--"up there" mildew doesn't matter right? ; )
I've only had mildew on Europeana and after I moved her to a sunnier spot she was fine. BS is a much bigger concern than mildew and rust here. I know you are older than me and I don't know how I'd make it without a garden "helper"! Your SGMC is gorgeous!
Plan 9, interesting you say Mermaid because I've been thinking of her....I just have this mental image of my house being swallowed by giant squid-like trunks of canes....I admire her though in photos.
Fortune's 5 up and died on me here near the spot where I want to put the climber but yes, it's likely 10 degrees or more hotter on that wall...
Thanks for the suggestions you all.
Susan

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 4:46PM
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kittymoonbeam

A few years ago, before I knew anything about soils, I planted budded roses in 5 gallon pots. I liked to see the rose before I planted and then if I didn't like the color or something, it was easy to give away rather than wait for next December to dig it out and pot it. The rose roots would be down lower and up above the potting mix would get too wet so I started planting annuals to dry out the upper layer a bit. After a few months, the roses would be ready for the ground and the cool season annuals would be on the way out ( we have 2 growing seasons here cool- late fall/winter/early spring, and warm - mid spring/summer/ early fall ) This was entirely my own fault since I was planting them deeper and covering the bud union trying to get them to self root.

If I tried to keep them in 5 gal. pots the summer would stunt them. If I planted them up into 15 gal. pots, I had to replant with summer annuals to keep the top of the mix from getting too soggy. I would always notice that the volume would drop as the mix deteriorated. I had to take them back to bare roots and replant in new mix in December or else the plant would grow poorly the next year. This will be my first year trying a more permanent pumice and sand based mix for my 15 gallon pots. Hopefully, the extra weight will help the pots stay upright when the fall winds begin to blow.

My dwf. apple tree did fine last year on a sandy loam soil in a 15 gal. pot but it was so heavy that I had to tip it out in place this year for bareroot planting into the ground. I like moving my roses around when the summer heat comes on so heavier pots might be difficult to manage. I'll just try a few on sandy loam and see how it goes this year.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 11:34PM
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susan4952(5)

Michael, I got the MG orchid mix. I think I need a finer blend or I may need to add it to regular potting soil. I got the coarse blend, and it doesn't seem to be dense enough to insulate for zone 5 winters. Thoughts?

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 2:48PM
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avgusta_gw

You need to shoot them in the hunting season, not all year around.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 4:26AM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

I use to throw golf balls at them. Now my old arm has lost its zip.

Shooting them with a BB gun works best for me. My gun is weak and the BB's just bounce off their tough hide. But they don't like it and do stay away if I'm lucky enough to hit one.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 1:20PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Thanks Buford and Jeri, I guess it concerned me because of the rate at which it grew! This is the first season I've had potted deliveries this early and I guess it shicked me that the plant doubled in size within 2 weeks! I guess I should be happy :)

Tammy

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 7:02AM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

It looks great to me. My Pink Pets that I rooted last year are doing the same thing already this spring. Now, If the rest of my roses would jump like that I would one happy camper.

    Bookmark   March 29, 2013 at 10:25AM
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