22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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buford(7 NE GA)

I have Caramella, it does get black spot and does throw out long canes. I wound up 'pegging' it into a round shape and it looked great. Of course that only lasts 2 years, this year I had to prune it a lot and repeg. This way, it gets covered in blooms. One other not so great thing about it, it is not self cleaning, and the spent blooms are ugly and ruin the look of the other fresh flowers around it. However, the blooms, from bud to open, are beautiful.

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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

I ordered BG for spring but my other FT roses have grown like gangbusters on multiflora. Not much bloom but I am hoping after spring pruning it will bloom.
So healthy!!! And I am no spray. Like Diane, mine got the late season crud but lost maybe 2% of leaves and those were low and interior which I should've removed earlier in the season anyway to prevent BS.
I highly recommend them!
Susan

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roseseek(9)

From how own root plants of it performed here we propagated for Huntington sales, properly budded ones should do significantly better than own root in harsher conditions. The main issues with that supplier were chronic virus (often quite severe) and his shipping bare roots year round, including the high heat of summer, because he found it "worked". OK. Kim

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shellfleur(z7a Long Island, NY)

You all have me wishing I had asked about September Morn before I selected it as my "free rose." It sounds like its going to "cost me" much aggravation. Hopefully not. Thanks everyone, for your input. I stand warned. :)

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

For what it's worth, that bloom looks a lot like my Yankee Doodle in cooler temperatures, including that slightly yellow cast on the reverse of the petals. In hotter temperatures, it tends to be a more pale apricot (most of our summers). Of course, I misidentify roses in my own yard, much less someone else's, but if that's a rose that's in your records this would be a very plausible match.

Cynthia

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susan4952(5)

How bout Dixieland Linda?
Thank you, nippstress.

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faerie_princess

Hi Kim,

Thanks for all of the information!

I am looking forward to learning more and more about Roses, they are fascinating.

Thank you for all of your advice!

Faerie

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roseseek(9)

You're welcome, Faerie. Yes, they ARE fascinating! I hope my suggestions help you figure out the mildew issue. Good luck! Kim

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montana_rose

Thank you all. The growth is definitely from above the graft point, but thank you anyways. It appears I am going to go root-hacking! Thanks again.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Be sure the new soil has about the same texture as the old root ball. Boundaries between denser and lighter soil create problems with the movement of water. Old potting soil has become finer and tighter as the organic matter is digested by bacteria. If you can't get a good match, remove as much of the old soil as you can and start the plant over in a uniform mix. It will need to be shaded for a while if you have to break up the root ball.

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bethnorcal9

I think it's kind of a tough one to get going as an own-root. I have tried it from Vintage Gardens on numerous occasions, and it always died on me before it got very big. The one I got from RVR has done pretty well and bloomed once. Ya gotta look quick tho, cuz the blooms blow pretty fast.

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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Well if it is a special rose for your Mom maybe you could see if you could find or have it grafted. Mine is a total creeper (if you don't have the time or patience to wait).
The bloom I got was gorgeous.
How thoughtful of you.
Susan

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joshtx(8a)

Collin County Agrilife extension has confirmed cases of RRD.

The plant is potted on the porch, so I am unsure what has caused this but I did cut the cane off the plant.

Josh

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anntn6b(z6b TN)

RRD/RRV has been in and around the DFW area for over a decade.

Generally RRD hits one cane first. It looks as if your rose got visited by a single vagrant mite. Unless there's a source of the vector mites not all that far away....but it's not on other roses, so that argues for the lack of a local vector source.

Also the heat of a Great Plains summer seems to have suppressed the vector mites up in Iowa in published papers; I wouldn't expect Dallas to have cooler temps until later this month (and the mite population surges that go with the non=100F temps). But, again, a single mite can come from anywhere upwind.

Those photos are some of the worst multiple axillary breaks I've ever seen. And the buds are not forming in an orderly fashion.

One other pestilence to check out: chili thrips.

I think you may have saved it by cutting the support cane as low on the plant as possible. Watch where you cut it for odd replacement growth (which would show up in a couple of weeks in the weather you're having now.)

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grandmothers_rose(z6b VA)

Rose cones?! Sound like an elaborate form of grower torture. I'm glad to know these roses grow well despite frost in zones close to mine. I don't prune until the roses break dormancy, not in the least reason because it *always* catches me by surprise and I scramble to get my pruning done. I meander around saying "crap, how did that happen so fast?!" I try to pick roses that survive without perfect care and these three are my experiments in pushing that envelope. Mr. Shovel takes care of poor performers for me, too!
Thanks for the advice on Pink Traviata. I love Traviata and was seriously considering the pink variety. I'll wait and see if someone around here has grown her.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

'Traviata' is easy for me and needs no protection. Chances are the pink one is the same except for color, but I haven't grown it. Sometimes a particular plant will wimp out on a competent grower for no apparent reason.

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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Another place you could look for information is the New York Botanical Garden where they switched out all the roses in 2007 to more disease resistant and are growing without chemicals. They offer a list of which roses they are growing too.

I have 'Julia Child' and so far I've found it to be one of the easiest and most dependable to grow without chemicals. Medium size yellow flowers, lots of rebloom.

Here is a link that might be useful: Peggy Rockefeller Rose Garden

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

I think I would plant blueberry bushes rather than roses. Blueberries are quite ornamental and the berries are one of the most nutritious.

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

That is a nice mountain. My friend used to share photos of it regularly on his drives in to work or from the river (he works for the state water department)

Hope they get that fire out quick

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

That is a nice mountain. My friend used to share photos of it regularly on his drives in to work or from the river (he works for the state water department)

Hope they get that fire out quick

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

It's not clear to me how they got back to exporting in one year, since grafted roses are grown for two years before harvest. Does anyone know whether there has been any change in how they are producing roses, other than not using rootstock imported from Europe?

But I'm relieved that we haven't lost another quality producer of roses.

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lynnette

Their wording worries me. "We EXPECT to be ABLE to ship to the States....sounds like they are not quite sure.

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grandmothers_rose(z6b VA)

I'm pretty sure my PJPII had RRD this spring. The new growth turned a weird combination of red and green and never outgrew it, plus the leaves and flowers were distorted and the canes stayed super flexible with soft thorns. Last year he grew so well and produced amazing numbers of fragrant flowers. I will try him again, but not for a few years.
Your PJPII looks normal to me, too. My PJPII had very red new growth that startled me at first, but greened up nicely, until this spring, that is.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Nice healthy new growth! Congratulations.

Kate

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Campanula UK Z8

Oh, sorry, Susan....mea culpa - all those other numbers 2495 confused my brain so I didn't notice you were another freezy zone 5 type. Obviously, everyone who can keep roses alive in those temperatures has a depth of committment I can only guess at.

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elks(US5 Can6)

I have kept new cuttings, including The New Dawn, alive over winter by siting them in their pots along the uninsulated, north foundation wall of my house and covering them with 2 L pop bottles, from which I have cut the bottom, and oak leaves. The only tricky part is removing the bottle caps when it's warm in the spring so that fungii aren't too happy.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Should work. Just aim for at least a 24" pot (the bigger the better) and an outer pot to provide some insulation from the heat is a great idea. If you can possibly site your pot such that it's in the shade most of the time (with the rest of the rose in the sun) then that will help. Also if you can run drip irrigation to the pot so that it is assured of regular water, that doesn't hurt either. Potted roses need regular fertilizer, so plan on that as well.

Your "2B" is obviously not your USDA growing zone if you are in Benicia--you might want to change that...

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roksee(Benicia SF Bay Area)

thank you for your response.,.. yes, I'm not sure how to read the zones...I'll check that out.

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Campanula UK Z8

I guess, if I was being conscientious, I would step on the potassium more than nitrogen or phosphorous....we were always taught potassium was good for hardening woody growth for winter. Probably be more reticent with the nitrogen though.....although, it frequently depends what's left in the shed at this time of year, also.

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sunflowersrus222(7a Pa)

I dead head till there are no more old dead blooms to remove and fertilize till I no longer feel like doing it which is usually October.

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