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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

Pictures would really help a great deal. Both of the blooms and of the foilage of the apparent non-Iceberg variety.

Also, climbing Iceberg is not really a great choice for our climate and zone. It isn't hardy enough to be a true climber each year and since it is also somewhat BS prone, this tends to weaken the plant going into the following year. The shrub version of Iceberg does just fine here however and has enough vigour to regrow each year despite the BS.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 3:10PM
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clax66

Hi Diane,
I just went outside to take some photos and sure enough..the closed rose had opened up a bit since a few hours ago and is looking more like her sister. I've uploaded the photos here.

They...look the same....she says sheepishly:(

Well, that's a good thing! Problem solved!

Thank you for your kind response;)
Mira

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 3:13PM
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bethnorcal9

Mmmm.. I can't really say where I got my plant from. The person who rooted it doesn't have any left and doesn't want to propagate any more as they felt it wasn't stable enough. I'm just thankful I was able to acquire a plant.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2013 at 10:28PM
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Airen21(8a)

This one is also advertised on Amazon:

Black Dragon Rose Seeds Bush Flower Seeds

its very obviously a scam. but alot of people actually buy them!

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Dragon-Rose-Seeds-Flower/dp/B007G2KBXQ/ref=sr_1_14?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1371219254&sr=1-14&keywords=roses

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 10:19AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Looking good DNTQuilter! :)
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sunflowersrus222,

We have a large calendar hanging in which I write down the days it rains, when I fertilize or whatever...
Keeps me on track... lol
We have had so much rain that I only have had to
handwater my newly planted baby Heirloom Roses once since May 15th...

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 9:54PM
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sunflowersrus222(7a Pa)

Same here Jim1961. Lots of rain. I've only hand watered mine 2x's. Loads of rain. Doesn't look like there is an end to the rain either. We get breaks from time to time but it's rained nearly every day.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 7:42AM
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111janm

hi tammy,thanks for that. im in the south,really cold and not much sun on north wall at the moment

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 9:07PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Roses don't need sun in the dormant season.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2013 at 12:08AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks, Tammy!

dsd, love your patio pot garden! That's sort of what I was trying to do with mine, decorate the edges of the patio, but yours is much prettier!

I think my oldest potted one is Folklore at 7 years. You do have to occasionally root prune them and repot them. For me I can go a round 4 or 5 years before I have to do that but for you, with your much longer growing season, that may be only 2 or 3 years. It's usually pretty easy to tell when they need to be repotted. When you water them the water will immediately start running out the bottom of the pot because there's little soil left to hold it. I pull the root ball out of the pot, cut it back by about half and then repot with fresh soil...or find a bigger pot, lol!

I'm always hunting for pots and pick them up when ever I come across a good deal and just stash them until needed. End of season sales at places like Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes or Big Lots are good places to get them cheap. Also check your local hardware stores. I've gotten some good deals at Costco too.

I start out the spring with a slow release granular fertilizer scratched in. Then at least once a month with some liquid spray or drench fertilizer and organics, like fish emulsion. Watering depends a lot on the weather but I have a moisture meter and I use it! It help save me a ton of money on my watering bill because before I just watered about every third day because I didn't know if they really needed it or not.

A 3 gallon pot is pretty small and a full size rose will out grow it in a season. A mini might last a few of years. A lot depends on the rose itself and how vigorous it is. Most of my pots are at least 15 gallons and I have a collection of 20/25 gallon ones for those permanently potted HTs..

For years I used Lowes Stay Green potting soil because it was the cheapest. I recently switched over to the Miracle Grow Moisture Control because we found it at a great price at Costco. As long as it's a good quality potting soil it doesn't matter which brand but I do try to stay away from the ones with fertilizer in them. I want to have control of when and what they get.

I hope I got all your questions, lol!

Yes, displaced, one of my beds is along the street and people regularly help them selves to blooms. I don't mind usually but when they do it the day before my rose shows I freak out! I've put signs up telling people to ask and I'd be happy to cut some for them but it did no good so now I pot the show roses.

Frenchcuffs, yes and no. Usually it's whatever ones give me a decent bloom to cut show week, lol! I'm still working on my HT collection and haven't done very well with those. But I have won mini queen a couple of times, once with Robin Alonso and once with Snow Ruby so I'd say those were my favorites! My show Is Saturday and SR has a very promising bud coming!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 2:53PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Wowo Seil- Good luck! Mini's are fantastic, love 'em.

let us know how it goes and post pics! I love seeing all the beauties on the tables

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 11:28PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Oh Deb, I'm so sorry. I had to do the same.

I miss Sharifa Asma the most. With a window open she would perfume the whole house.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 11:15PM
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plantloverkat north Houston(zone 9a)

Hi, Deb.

I lived in Bartlesville for a couple of years over 10 years ago. We lived about 5 miles east of town, and really liked it. I hope you end up liking it as much as we did.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 11:25PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Your pics are fantastic! :)
Heck its been colder here and our roses just
started blooming about 6 days ago...

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 9:41PM
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frenchcuffs13(z8a)

Yep- I'm completely green with envy! Really gorgeous roses you have there. Twilight Zone looks fantastic too. It's been nothing but twig here.
Thanks again for sharing!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 11:10PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

A real nursery or some one you found on eBay who lives in Tennessee?

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 10:12PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Looks like USA Seed is located in McMinnville (Warren or Dekalb Co Maybe?) They have all but 1 negative review on Dave's Garden. Pays to do research before you buy. Just sad that they get away with more times than not.

Tammy

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 10:24PM
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hartwood

In answer to the original question ... when I have a little bit of spray left in my sprayer, I go back and respray the roses that I know are the most susceptible to blackspot. The diluted solution doesn't keep, and it's bad for your sprayer to leave it in there.

For the side discussion on the use of combo products ... I always recommend that folks take the most direct, most effective way to solve a given problem. Fungus on rose leaves? Spray fungicide on the leaves. (Instead of using granules or a drench on the soil then hoping that the rose takes up enough of the chemical to be effective.) I don't use insecticide of any type in my garden ... not even soap.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 12:30PM
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DNTQuilter

Buford - I realize the BS didn't come from the mulch. I stand corrected, as my post did imply that I was attributing the powdery mildew and BS to the mulching.

Kate - I respect your opinions on the multiproducts, and I thank you for expressing them. I set out to get the Bayer Advanced Garden Control last weekend, but alas, Lowes did not have it.

I did what I did, and hopefully I won't have to do it again. However, I could not have what looked like flies and more on S%^& in my front yard for any length of time. I am 100 percent certain that the flies etc. came from the mulch.

Scott

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 9:05PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

The last flush we had was more of a silvery pink

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 7:18PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Pepto Bismol pink

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 7:45PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I just use ordinary bamboo garden stakes you can get anywhere, you can cut them to the length you need, and garden twine. Sink the stake in the ground opposite the canes you want to lift and tie one end of the string to it. Carefully thread the string underneath the canes and gently lift them to the position you want them in and tie the other end of the string to the stake. You can use one stake and thread through several canes or use separate stakes for each cane. It's up to you.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 3:36PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Perfect! Thx Seil

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 7:42PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh, what shame! I think the tour sounded marvelous! I hope it works out better next year.

I had already guessed the good Doctor, lol! I think he's the most "grown" rose in the entire country!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 3:16PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I had been thinking photographing the lovely examples of the doc next spring.

Note the hints of red in the mass of white

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 7:36PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I can't even imagine only seven inches of rain for an entire year...
I think our rainfall averages 40+ inches yearly...

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 6:08PM
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campv

No rain for months!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 7:25PM
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pat_bamaz7

I think you will be happy with Firefighter. I'm not a big fan of red roses and only grow a few, but Firefighter is a rose I wouldn't want to be without. It's my favorite of my reds (Mr. Lincoln, Love's Promise, Veteran's Honor, Rouge Royale). It will "blue" a bit as it ages, but holds its bright red color for quite a while. Attached picture is of blooms that are several days old. Mine is in full sun from sun up to sun down and edges still don't burn too badly...unlike a lot of reds. It's constantly in bloom, blooms last forever on the bush and in the vase, the fragrance is to die for and lasts until the very end.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 6:03PM
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andreark

Thanks Kim for the info. I will listen to hear if it quacks
like a duck...But if it does, my pups will bark at it.

And thank you Pat for the words of encouragement and
beautiful pic.

andrea

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 7:22PM
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Can Anyone ID this Rose BushCan anyone ID this rose bush?
Posted by gardenheat(9b) June 13, 2013
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gardenheat(9b)

LOL.. My friend is sure the photo was taken in Portland but the garden.... she really isn't sure. I wish I had never seen it:(

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 5:19PM
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roseseek(9)

You know, it doesn't really matter WHO the rose is. Nothing in a Portland garden is going to look anything like it will in your zone 9 garden. Find something resembling it which will look as good where you are and be happy. Kim

    Bookmark     June 13, 2013 at 5:39PM
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