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raingoaway12

I got confirmation of additions to my first order on Monday. I am still wondering if the import roses which they did not sell out of two years ago will be available again this year to purchase.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 3:46PM
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susan4952(5)

Lots of the import roses are not ready to ship this year. I ordered two years ago and am still waiting. I have only received the email requesting that I not contact them. I know they are swamped.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 5:25PM
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minflick(9b/7, Boulder Creek, CA)

Multigenerationally pregnant! No fair!!!

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 8:00PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

If you're REALLY trying to talk yourself into using a spray rather than a hose -- consider that, if you DO spray, you'll get rid of the RELATIVELY harmless and easily-eradicated aphids. BUT you will open the door to spider mites. Those devils DO damage roses, and they are what's more FAR harder to eradicate.

The more years we are away from spraying, the more ladybugs, birds, and lizards live here. And the fewer aphids. There are probably some here, SOMEWHERE, but not so's you'd notice.

Jeri

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 3:53PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If it's not doing well do it now. Fall may be too late and you could lose it. You want to find out what's wrong right away and get it squared away and growing well for the season. Even if it's starting to get hot for you now the rose will still do better if you fix it before the heat makes it suffer more. You can always shade it with something for a while to protect it from high heat.

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 6:50PM
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deervssteve(9)

Since you planted the roses the same way in the same soil conditions, maybe the one that isn't doing well is a dud.
I planted a LRV and it didn't do well so I planted another one in the same hole and it's survived for over 15 years.
At one point I had over 100 bushes. Most of them are gone now and none were dug up.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 3:27PM
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jacqueline9CA

MAC was hybridized in 1875, which is antique enough for me.

Here is the pic I think kittymoonbeam was talking about - we have three MACs growing 20-30 feet up trees - this is one of them, taken out a window of our house. All of the white roses in the background are from one plant of MAC. I have never pruned it except when branches fall off the trees in storms, which has only happened a couple of times in 20 years. All I can tell you is, unpruned they bloom here in the No SF Bay area 11 months of the year.

Yours is gorgeous! Since it does not appear to have anything to climb on, it is making a huge bush. If it were mine I would just prune it to keep it off any paths or humans walking by.

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 1:22PM
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debora(10/18 CA)

Wow, that's impressive, Jackie! Really lush and beautiful!

Actually, as thick as it is, you can't see that my MAC is climbing up and over a wooden arbor, which I hope is strong enough to last! It's really nice to sit at the table underneath for breakfast or tea. And yes, I do keep her up out of the way of anyone walking by.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 2:50PM
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kstrong(10 So Cal)

I say

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 11:38AM
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Campanula UK Z8

mmm, always pricks my suspicious nature when posts of this sort are sent by people who have just joined that very day........

So yep, Kathy, another cynic here, I'm afraid.

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 1:26PM
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eahamel(9a)

If "thornless" is on your list, don't even think about New Dawn.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 8:02PM
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kris2001(6a - s.e.PA)

Thanks all!

As per Barb_in_DC....I think I will get "Climbing Pinkie".
Where can I get the authentic/best breed of
"Climbing Pinkie"?

Will any of these thornless climbers work?
http://www.davidaustinroses.com/american/Advanced.asp?PageId=2026

Zephy seems too big for a small porch like mine. I have one 12 ft pillar thats all.

Will Annie Laurie McDowell work for me?

If anyone else suggests any that fits my need pls advice!

Thx again:)..Kris

This post was edited by kris2001 on Tue, Mar 26, 13 at 16:59

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 11:39AM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

In what part of the country do you garden? Do you know which rootstock (if any) the roses are/were grafted onto?

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 10:10AM
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intris(6)

My roses are currently putting out tiny leaves. I always thought that it was because it was the first of the season and they needed to get some leaves out before getting the energy to make the larger leaves.
Since you just pruned it, give it some time to get used to the new height?

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 11:22AM
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KillarneyBob

Thanks for the responses everyone. Surprised I didn't figure this out given all the images I can find now! At least now I have a plan of attach. Thanks again!

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 6:09AM
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onederw

The only thing I might add to the diagnosis and treatment outlined by others is to take a look at your adjacent plantings--particularly if there are roses nearby--and make sure that the neighbors aren't likewise affected. All the diligence in the world won't do any good if the rose keeps getting reinfected.

Kay

    Bookmark   March 26, 2013 at 11:07AM
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subk3

Handy until you actually try to use your own hand to measure one! ;-)

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 10:20AM
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kittymoonbeam

You are all so clever!

I learned from a woodworker at a local craftsman's fair that you can use the parts of your hand to measure things accurately. If you bend your fingers, you can use the distance between the knuckles. I can measure an exact inch one one of mine. It's useful because then if I need to know a half inch or a quarter inch, I just take some scrap paper and make a crease at one inch, and then fold it to find the other fractions.

The wood worker was so amazing, he could judge by sight very small increments. He made beautiful arts & crafts/ art noveau furniture from recycled wood with hand carved jointing and inlay.

    Bookmark   March 25, 2013 at 10:51AM
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alameda/zone 8

I just finished planting a bunch of bare roots today that had been soaking for 3 weeks. They look just fine and I am sure they will grow. About the first of December, I got an order that I wasnt expecting, about 12 plants. Due to the hectic holiday season and I had sold 10 horses out of the country and getting the vetwork, transportation, etc. organized took up all my time. I covered the soaking roses when we had freezing temps, but that was literally all the time I had to give them. One sunny day in late January, I potted them up. Was afraid they wouldnt do well and I might lose some. Well, you ought to see them today! They havent missed a beat, they are getting buds, the folliage looks great and I am ready to plant them in the ground. I really dont like doing this.......but sometimes time gets short and it is just impossible to plant when you should. This might be a different matter if it was not dormant season for roses, but noone gets bare root orders in summer anyway. I have only fertilized them twice with a combination of Spray N Gro/Bill's Perfect Fertilizer and they are really thriving! I plan to spray my just planted ones with just the Spray N Gro to give them a boost. Good luck with yours - from what the others have said, they should do fine.
Judith

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 9:40PM
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Tuggy3(9b NorCal)

Thanks for this great information. I've always wondered about time underwater vs roots only. Very helpful.
Mary

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 11:07PM
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intris(6)

Whimsy is a miniature rose whose parent is a double knock-out. I haven't grown this rose, but I heard that it's disease resistance is similar to a knock-out.

Here is a link that might be useful: HMF - Whimsy

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 7:40PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Roseseek--Thrive is lovely! If I didn't already have 3 HomeRuns, I'd get some Thrives!

My only complaint about Home Run is that it is probably the thorniest rose in my garden. It attacks if you even just walk by it!

Kate

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 10:19PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Since you don't have any forsythias to go by you'll need to keep an eye on it and when you start to see the little leaf nodes growing you can go ahead and prune it. I would, however, suggest you go with Jim's advice and not prune it all that much. I know it looks gangly but it needs time to fully mature. For most roses that's a good 3 years at least and for some slower growers it could be as long as 5. It's building a good root ball so it can support more top growth. When it feels it has enough roots it will begin to put out more canes. I had Easy Does It and it was not a fast grower for me.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 4:22PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

FYI, there isn't any forsythia blooming in this part Monmouth County (eastern), I'm about 40 miles south of Manhattan. It usually blooms in the city about the same time as it does here.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 10:15PM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Thank you.

I do not feed Rotesmere at all. All I do is remove dead canes and suckers which invade the space of adjacent plants.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 10:04AM
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professorroush(6A)

Galiana, my Purple Pavement has never been pruned and has yet to reach the 4 foot stage. Stays nice and bushy.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 7:40PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You're lucky, Pat. I never find anything like that. Most everything here are the old out of patent HTs. Never any OGRs.

The Camelot has leafed out really nicely under the lights. The Blue Girl is just sitting there. I'm starting to worry that that one won't make it. If it would warm up some I could get it outside and it might do better. Where the heck is spring?

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 7:03PM
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jerseyearth(z6NJ)

Seil, I keep on trying. I work at a garden center, and the only roses we sell are repeat bloomers.. tons of Knockouts.. but, I LOVE the old one time bloomers.. less trouble, and a gorgeous show once a year, instead of a piddling disease-soaked showing all the rest of the summer. The Austin roses are the worst here in the humid Jersey shore summers. The teas ya gotta keep on spraying. So.. I bought an "America" Climber, Rosa Rugosa "Crimson King", and a Brownell Sub Zero "Curly Pink" (have since heard bad things..(LOL!),

We shall see! Hope springs eternal. (at Walmart and the Xmas Tree Shop~ :-).. keep in touch.. pat

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 7:23PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Wow, you're really being ruthless with those pruners! Don't some of these roses resent that heavy pruning?

    Bookmark   March 24, 2013 at 6:54PM
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