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If you're REALLY trying to talk yourself into using a spray rather than a hose -- consider that, if you DO spray, you'll get rid of the RELATIVELY harmless and easily-eradicated aphids. BUT you will open the door to spider mites. Those devils DO damage roses, and they are what's more FAR harder to eradicate.
The more years we are away from spraying, the more ladybugs, birds, and lizards live here. And the fewer aphids. There are probably some here, SOMEWHERE, but not so's you'd notice.
Jeri

If it's not doing well do it now. Fall may be too late and you could lose it. You want to find out what's wrong right away and get it squared away and growing well for the season. Even if it's starting to get hot for you now the rose will still do better if you fix it before the heat makes it suffer more. You can always shade it with something for a while to protect it from high heat.

Since you planted the roses the same way in the same soil conditions, maybe the one that isn't doing well is a dud.
I planted a LRV and it didn't do well so I planted another one in the same hole and it's survived for over 15 years.
At one point I had over 100 bushes. Most of them are gone now and none were dug up.

MAC was hybridized in 1875, which is antique enough for me.
Here is the pic I think kittymoonbeam was talking about - we have three MACs growing 20-30 feet up trees - this is one of them, taken out a window of our house. All of the white roses in the background are from one plant of MAC. I have never pruned it except when branches fall off the trees in storms, which has only happened a couple of times in 20 years. All I can tell you is, unpruned they bloom here in the No SF Bay area 11 months of the year.
Yours is gorgeous! Since it does not appear to have anything to climb on, it is making a huge bush. If it were mine I would just prune it to keep it off any paths or humans walking by.
Jackie


Wow, that's impressive, Jackie! Really lush and beautiful!
Actually, as thick as it is, you can't see that my MAC is climbing up and over a wooden arbor, which I hope is strong enough to last! It's really nice to sit at the table underneath for breakfast or tea. And yes, I do keep her up out of the way of anyone walking by.


Thanks all!
As per Barb_in_DC....I think I will get "Climbing Pinkie".
Where can I get the authentic/best breed of
"Climbing Pinkie"?
Will any of these thornless climbers work?
http://www.davidaustinroses.com/american/Advanced.asp?PageId=2026
Zephy seems too big for a small porch like mine. I have one 12 ft pillar thats all.
Will Annie Laurie McDowell work for me?
If anyone else suggests any that fits my need pls advice!
Thx again:)..Kris
This post was edited by kris2001 on Tue, Mar 26, 13 at 16:59


My roses are currently putting out tiny leaves. I always thought that it was because it was the first of the season and they needed to get some leaves out before getting the energy to make the larger leaves.
Since you just pruned it, give it some time to get used to the new height?


The only thing I might add to the diagnosis and treatment outlined by others is to take a look at your adjacent plantings--particularly if there are roses nearby--and make sure that the neighbors aren't likewise affected. All the diligence in the world won't do any good if the rose keeps getting reinfected.
Kay


You are all so clever!
I learned from a woodworker at a local craftsman's fair that you can use the parts of your hand to measure things accurately. If you bend your fingers, you can use the distance between the knuckles. I can measure an exact inch one one of mine. It's useful because then if I need to know a half inch or a quarter inch, I just take some scrap paper and make a crease at one inch, and then fold it to find the other fractions.
The wood worker was so amazing, he could judge by sight very small increments. He made beautiful arts & crafts/ art noveau furniture from recycled wood with hand carved jointing and inlay.

I just finished planting a bunch of bare roots today that had been soaking for 3 weeks. They look just fine and I am sure they will grow. About the first of December, I got an order that I wasnt expecting, about 12 plants. Due to the hectic holiday season and I had sold 10 horses out of the country and getting the vetwork, transportation, etc. organized took up all my time. I covered the soaking roses when we had freezing temps, but that was literally all the time I had to give them. One sunny day in late January, I potted them up. Was afraid they wouldnt do well and I might lose some. Well, you ought to see them today! They havent missed a beat, they are getting buds, the folliage looks great and I am ready to plant them in the ground. I really dont like doing this.......but sometimes time gets short and it is just impossible to plant when you should. This might be a different matter if it was not dormant season for roses, but noone gets bare root orders in summer anyway. I have only fertilized them twice with a combination of Spray N Gro/Bill's Perfect Fertilizer and they are really thriving! I plan to spray my just planted ones with just the Spray N Gro to give them a boost. Good luck with yours - from what the others have said, they should do fine.
Judith

Whimsy is a miniature rose whose parent is a double knock-out. I haven't grown this rose, but I heard that it's disease resistance is similar to a knock-out.
Here is a link that might be useful: HMF - Whimsy

Since you don't have any forsythias to go by you'll need to keep an eye on it and when you start to see the little leaf nodes growing you can go ahead and prune it. I would, however, suggest you go with Jim's advice and not prune it all that much. I know it looks gangly but it needs time to fully mature. For most roses that's a good 3 years at least and for some slower growers it could be as long as 5. It's building a good root ball so it can support more top growth. When it feels it has enough roots it will begin to put out more canes. I had Easy Does It and it was not a fast grower for me.


You're lucky, Pat. I never find anything like that. Most everything here are the old out of patent HTs. Never any OGRs.
The Camelot has leafed out really nicely under the lights. The Blue Girl is just sitting there. I'm starting to worry that that one won't make it. If it would warm up some I could get it outside and it might do better. Where the heck is spring?

Seil, I keep on trying. I work at a garden center, and the only roses we sell are repeat bloomers.. tons of Knockouts.. but, I LOVE the old one time bloomers.. less trouble, and a gorgeous show once a year, instead of a piddling disease-soaked showing all the rest of the summer. The Austin roses are the worst here in the humid Jersey shore summers. The teas ya gotta keep on spraying. So.. I bought an "America" Climber, Rosa Rugosa "Crimson King", and a Brownell Sub Zero "Curly Pink" (have since heard bad things..(LOL!),
We shall see! Hope springs eternal. (at Walmart and the Xmas Tree Shop~ :-).. keep in touch.. pat




I got confirmation of additions to my first order on Monday. I am still wondering if the import roses which they did not sell out of two years ago will be available again this year to purchase.
Lots of the import roses are not ready to ship this year. I ordered two years ago and am still waiting. I have only received the email requesting that I not contact them. I know they are swamped.