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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Lovely photos, Sharon! Are Powerhouse and Show Stopper minis? They have a great "bang for the buck" of saturated color, however big they are.

Cynthia

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bethnorcal9

Gorgeous pictures of gorgeous blooms as always!! SHOW STOPPER is my favorite.

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Nice photos, Jacquie! I like the Liatris behind the roses. For me, in my zone 5 Nebraska garden, The Generous Gardener is a floppy biggish bush that might only be 4 feet high but the canes reach out 6-8 feet to the side for something to climb on. Mine happens to be at the bottom of an arch with real climbers behind it, so I tuck the canes of TGG into the arch to keep them out of the way but put them horizontal so it'll bloom more on laterals (hopefully). Mine is about 6 years old and at best it has maybe 2 or 3 flushes a year. It has quite notable winter dieback - the canes don't look cankered but are dark brown inside - and it's a bit slow to come back from regrowing. The pictures below are a section of the bush this week that show a fairly lackluster bloom cycle.

In a really mild winter like we had before 2013, and TGG had surviving cane, it did want to climb. Here it is on the arch looking white among a variety of other climbers (the white on the tripod in front of it isn't TGG - it's Crown Princess Margaretha). That's the best it's ever looked, as well as the biggest, and I don't think it rebloomed at all that year.

I think your plan to have a tripod over it sounds good given its growth habit. In most zone 5 years, it wouldn't cover an arch like the photo above, but it would appreciate something to hang on. It's a nice enough rose, but I would put it behind other roses so it can shine when it's nice and not be annoying when it just sits there.

Cynthia

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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

Thank you so much Cynthia for your feedback, I will take your advice and do just that!

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altorama(5/6 MA)

You're not an idiot!! Glad you figured it out!

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rosecanadian

Thanks Altorama!

I'm still waiting for the other rose to bloom again. It's a darker pink that was supposed to be Broceliande. So I'll be needing your help again then. :)

Carol :)

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SoFL Rose z10

I was just reading about this. I'm glad to hear about the bicyclist project. I wonder if we could do something like that here in south Florida where milkweed grows easily, but many gardeners don't grow it.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Asclepias incarnata is the one that does well up here.

Diane... I was raised on a farm and the day was you could always see milkweed on the fence rows and ditches. Those days are gone. When I mentioned the farmer that was spraying. Later that night on the local news they mentioned the farmers were spraying a mix of liquid ammonium and a herbicide. Every house and yard in the block east of the field was getting hit with it.

It certainly won't do much good to plant it if they hit it with herbicides

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I know St. Ethelburger is a Beales Rose, but that name is so unusual. Until I saw the rose I had never heard of a St. Ethelburga. Must be a saint dear to Brits. Diane

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

St. Ethelburga was the wife of a king in England.She converted the king to Catholicism. After his death she founded a convent at Lyminge.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I have never grown any, but have observed several climbing hybrid teas and other climbing sports of modern bush roses.. The general view is that most do not repeat as well as the better climbers and should be expected to give little or no repeat bloom. A further drawback that some have is blooming on long, 2-foot laterals that are good for cutting but look awkward on a climber. I hope someone can give information about the varieties you mention.

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Haven't grown the climbing sports of Blue Girl or Tiffany - though I'd like to. Do grow Talisman, Climbing, the Western Rose Company 1930 sport of the HT. The current one's from Angel Gardens & only 2 years old. A previous one from Rogue Valley some years back perished from unintentional neglect when it was young & I was ill, but its beauty & fragrance prompted me to replace it. This one's given 2 flushes already this season at only 3' tall, so quite promising. http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.22066&tab=1

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Same here as altorama. Lots of little sprouts, easy to pull up, that must have escaped from someone else's garden. They are a minor pain, but don't threaten anything. I have LOTS worse things to deal with. Like 101 today when things were starting to look a little better. Phooey. However in Jackie's case the year round mild climate may have created a mint monster (plus being ignored for years helped, too.) Diane

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Turtleturtlemeow(USDA zone 9b; Sunset Zone 13)

The mint is more than a foot tall in the rosebush and the temp is typically 107 in the afternoon. Today it was only 100 because it rained last night and it is cloudy. We ignore ours as well, except for mowing it with the grass.

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HiRoses are doing well and the young deer are fearless.
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kittymoonbeam

Are you out of room yet or are you going to order more roses this winter?

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deervssteve(9)

I've got the room not so much the time and with the water rationing, maybe the following season. Everything is doing well so no replacements.

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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Thanks for the kind comments everyone. Holly, I just went outside to check scent and didn't smell all that much. If OR means own roots then no, mine is grafted. I posted an earlier photo of Mohave and was told the colors reminded her of a desert sunset when there is smoke in the air. I think that a neat description. Again, thanks everyone.

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roseseek(9)

Beautiful, James! It looks like a catalog photo from sixty years ago!

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

I don't think mmjau's rose looks like Burgundy Iceberg. The form is different.

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susan4952(5)

I think it's intrigue but I was shot down. Lol

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Cool experiment!

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

I got 13 in the little bucket on the front porch yesterday. LOL! I haven't checked the others today.

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msdorkgirl(11)

Your leaves do look healthy, by the height it looks like own root? It looks like a mini rose but pictures are sometimes deceiving.

Prune to the next five leaflet and wait 6-8 weeks for its next flush (or 3-4 weeks if it is a mini)!

Good luck!

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bart_2015

I'd think that it is working on growing roots ,and therefore can't afford to spend much energy on producing good blooms. The leaves look fine; I'd say give it time. I bet next year it will be consistently pleasing.

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Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville

Ok thanks Ann. These are softwood cuttings. There is one plant that has leaves unlike others but this is my first rodeo at cuttings. The mother plant has not shown any signs. I will post a photo soon. What I see may be entirely normal. I hope you know what a help your knowledge and willingness to share is for all of us. I'm truly grateful!

Susan

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stillanntn6b

Thank you for the kind words. This is something we learn by sharing.

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altorama(5/6 MA)

It could be reblooming, just in between flushes right now.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

A lot of climbers don't rebloom until they get to a certain height. Three feet isn't nearly tall enough.

If it still doesn't rebloom five years from now, there may be a problem. Before that, it is probably just getting established.

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enchantedrosez6a

Kate your 'Eden' is stunning. I bought her own root from Heirloom last year. She survived the winter pretty much unscathed but only had one flower this year. But I've read that she's a bit stingy at first so I'm willing to be patient with her since her flowers are so gorgeous and she has been disease free.

I also have Clair Matin and Compassion. Both are own root from last year. Compassion died back to the ground and seems to be putting all her energy into growing canes this year since she only flowered once so far, but I'm hoping some of the new growth has buds hidden within :). I hope she'll get more cane hardy with age since her flowers are gorgeous and have such a nice scent and she has hardly any thorns so perfect for an entrance arbor. Clair Matin was very winter hardy with little cane damage and is on her second flush while being grown in partial sun so not the best conditions. She is very healthy so far, the flowers are a beautiful soft peachy rose with dark buds, are bumble bee magnets and have a wonderful soft scent. Overall I'm very happy with her.

New this year are Kordes 'Rosanna', 'Golden Gate' and 'Moonlight'. So far 'Rosanna' is growing the best and is now setting buds. 'Moonlight' and 'Golden Gate' don't seem very vigorous and have not flowered but they were both pretty small when I got them so I'm learning patience. These are all own root as well and none are sprayed for disease or insects.

Sharon

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Kate, your Eden is gorgeous! Ive always thought that it is such a beautiful rose!

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