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Actually it will stop the blackspot even after it starts. The leaves that are already spotted are goners, but there are leaves that have spores on them that have not shown spots yet. The Bayer spray will kill those spores.

And yes, you can spray it on new growth.

Thanks Buford,

Will do this weekend.

Andrea

I've heard she's a stingy bloomer no matter where she's grown, and that alone would prompt me to look for another rose. On another thread Austin's Huntington Rose (aka Alan Titchmarch) was praised as a nearly perfect rose for warmer climates and it's now on my list of wanted roses (not that I have any idea of where I'd put it, but it sounded so special). You might give that a try instead.

My GJ was grafted. For some reason, when the English roses first were being offered, J & P was pushing GJ.

Hi Carlota----I check over here once in a while but it sure is not like it used to be------I go to Antique Rose Forum and notice some old friends over there

How are you feeling?--There is a box at the bottom and you will know when someone posts---I don't remember having this service but it is nice

Florence

Hey all!
I am liking this tablet but am missing a key board and mouse. I must be old fashioned, lol.
I am trying to stir up a twitter hashtag for us #gwroses but I'm not sure it'll work. I hope it does I really miss the old days here. Y'all became such great friends.

I do get free books with kindle, but no free rose dictionary yet...here's hoping.

Florence, each day has been a struggle but my family and roses are my reason d'etre. How are you feeling???? I truly hope all is well!

Rosy hugs, carlota or @HobbesCarlota on twitter.

If the dirt you get is heavy clay (can form a rubbery noodle when wet), it's very important that you avoid compacting it. Don't work it or step on it when it is wet. Use lots of water to settle the soil after planting. With the organic matter you are adding, it will develop some crumb texture if you never compact it.

Thanks michael. The fill dirt that was used was not nearly as heavy and hard as what I ran into about a foot down in my yard. The soil and amendments were thoroughly mixed and look and feel great. The bed was built on Monday and I have watered both the roses and the entire bed (not as much) twice I think they have had enough BIG waterings. I will now lighten up on it. I will be putting an inch or so of lovely compost down Saturday

These roses are ALREADY happy and are making new babies. The quality of the plants is so much better than my first 6.

I brought them home from the nursery the prior Wed. Firefighter had several blooms on it when I brought it home. They still haven't opened fully. This is going to be another long lasting blossom like Brandy.

Sorry, I'm rattling on again. This is just so exciting for me.

andrea

It is a good deed to take the time to share bad experiences so that those of us who consider a particular company can consider your experience and then maybe go elsewhere with our hard earned money. So thank you, Joannemb.
There are some sites that rate plant vendors, it is helpful to leave your experience there as well. But also, you can leave a complaint with the state attorney general. Doing so is free. While they may not be able to recover your wasted money, if they receive numerous complaints from consumers they may launch an investigation.

Here is info you might need to fill out the complaint form:

Address
Direct Gardening
Division of House of Wesley
1704 Morrissey Drive
Bloomington, IL 61704
Phone
(309) 662-7943
E-Mail
customercare@directgardening.com

Here is a link that might be useful: illinois consumer fraud/attorney general/complaint form

I know where this place is...I've been there before and it's about 35 miles from my house. It's also a retail nursery with actual plants and a back room where they store the bagged plants. I believe they also do business as 'Interstate Nursery'. Their nursery stock looks a lot better than the bagged stuff, but even that plant material is mediocre. The business is a brick-n-mortar garage and parking lot...no greenhouse. Just a middleman and a poor one at that.

The pot is about 9 inches
the rose is still pretty small, the root system as well.
i re-potted it 3 days ago, before that it was potted for about a year.
im in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

yes ma`am, i think this is good advice too. thank you so much for your help.

Pruning doesn't promote growth unless the plant is already big, with plenty of nutrient energy stored in the tissues. What promotes growth in a young plant is sunshine on the leaves, so don't remove leaves unnecessarily.

Water, water, water. Once hot weather sets in I stick my thumb on the hose end and water the undersides, then the tops of all my rose. Spider Mites hate water and will go to a neighbor down the steet somewhere. Ever since I started this several years ago, I've never been bothered by them.

Another thing that seems to set spider mites free to reproduce like bunnies is continuing use of insecticides.

If you kill all of the insects, both good ones and bad ones, there are no good bugs left to eat the mites. (They are not insects, you see -- they are arachnids. Insecticides don't kill them.)

Anyhow, your Natria is just canola oil. I don't think I'd depend upon it.

Can you put the rose out in the rain???

Jeri

I have Heritage here in Dallas, which is more humid. I have not had any black spot issues with it. It has few thorns and smells wonderful.

Geoff Hamilton has a beautiful fragrance with a hint of fresh strawberry, to my nose. It's 5-6 feet tall here. The blooms have an elegant look to them.

Bishop's Castle is a lovely medium pink with exceptional fragrance.

Gertrude Jekyll is too thorny for near a walkway; I love mine in a mixed planting with other roses. It drops its leaves from blackspot, but it's hardy and gives some repeat bloom.

I think Harlow Carr would be too thorny to be near a walkway.

Seil I lifted it up and added soil underneath and then put it back into the hole. Its raised up a bit more now and looks good.

I have another question for you. Another rose I planted near this one at the same time now has a couple of yellow leaves. The others I planted along the same flower bed are looking nice and green and already showing new growth. This one in particular is called the Just Joey. The soil is still pretty wet from a couple of days of heavy rain so i doubt its thirsty. Could these just be older leaves getting ready to drop? There are no spots or lines. The leaves are just yellowing as if they are old. These are all own-root about 6 inches tall. Just this one is not looking as good as the others. Am I just over reacting? Is this normal in such a young plant?

wish I could get these photos onto my computer from my phone. My usb cable for my cell looks like it needs to be replaced.

Anyway, I just took a photo of the leaves since I keep forgetting exactly what they look like by the time I get to my computer. The leaves DO have yellowing veins and some black spots. The outer edges of the leaves are still green but the veins are yellowing. Is this the sign of a deficiency?

Here is a bigger picture of the roses. Hope this helps.

Rosarium Uetersen. A very good, much overlooked climber.

I'm not so sure that the colour is all that is different about the sports of Iceberg. I have the original, Brilliant Pink and Burgundy versions as do many neighbours and the pink and burgundy versions are just not as prolific as the white version. I've also heard from others that the blackspot susceptibility is different amongst the sports as well; my own experience is that the original white is more prone to spotting than the two sports.

Maybe it's a climate thing and maybe I ought to put my 2 cents in on the roses you hate to love post...my Burgundy Iceberg is a fine rose. The color is deep and rich and never has been otherwise, save that one pink cane, which was kinda cute. I wouldn't call her prolific, but she's never without flowers. Yes she blackpots but pretty much everything in New England blackspots. I also have a couple young white iceberg climbers. BS resistance seems about the same, but hard to judge because I do spray.

Freddie Mercury has a rose??? Like your middle rose. A bicolor?

Freddie Mercury... Of Queen??? Cool!
If so maybe someday we will see a bi-color KISS rose from the KISS Army...lol

You really don't have a choice. I've had to do it a few times under similar circumstances. They will grow back.

Thanks for the guidance. Sounds like a good weekend project...after I find some body armor!

I'm with you Kentucky rose - I was very surprised to see bare roots still for sale a good month after the Canadian companies have stopped shipping, but the free shipping plus the $10 or so each rose special was too good to pass up. There were quite a few that I've only seen around on grafted varieties, so on sale is the way to go for me, since my grafted roses have a higher winter kill rate than own-root. At these prices I bought, well, more than I want to admit.

At this late date I was expecting either dried up small specimens or bare roots with gigantic gangling sprouts hanging off them like old potatoes, but to my surprise they looked both substantial and not too far along in development. With our unusually cold and wet spring, it was still a pretty safe bet planting here in zone 5, and I got them all in this past weekend before yet another rain storm. I was particularly happy to see this sale since two of the ones I bought were Hulithemas that I suspect are not going to be hardy in my zone - Bull's Eye and Eyeconic Pink Lemonade - but I'd been wanting to give those a try and the lower prices they were worth the gamble.

Always fun to have a pleasant surprise!

Cynthia

Oh yea....trust me I ordered a LOT...I ordered the first time when they first had the mix and match and paid shipping and couldn't resist then when they had mix and match with no shipping so I ended up buying 23 all together. I just moved into a house with 1/3 acre that hasn't been taken care of for years in San Jose, CA so really hoping that they all live and do well....ordered pretty much the same roses that everyone else did including the mustard & ketcup since it is gorgeous! I hope to get a lot of help from this site because I am sure I am going to need it :)