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anntn6b(z6b TN)

For an annual, I'd suggest the French Marigold, Targetes spp., which are supposed to be good at suppressing A. tumifaciens in the soil.

I'm trying them in a part of one bed that is where tobacco was planted for decades, but this year I had trouble getting Targetes seeds with a good germination rate.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 3:17PM
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susan4952(5)

My old aBe Darby has one large gross tumor every spring. It is disgusting. I cut that branch off and disinfect the pruners. This is a monster healthy rose in close quarters. None of the surrounding roses ever develop gall. The only time I have let an area go fallow, was when I was suspicious of RR.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 3:43PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

If I lived in a low disease area like yours, I would keep GJ. It's not only the fragrance but the perfect rosette form and nuanced color that make the flowers so special. I don't have experience with extreme heat, but you wouldn't expect much summer repeat under the best circumstances. If the plant sulks in summer, so much the less yardage of thorny cane to deal with.

And yes, the thorns are truly terrible.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 2:22PM
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pat_bamaz7

I got 2 RdR bushes early spring...clearance of last year's roses at a nursery. They were sad looking when I picked them up, but recovered quickly and are already on their second flush...loving them! I've been wanting RdV, but don't have enough room for a big girl like that until I get a new bed ready. How is she on repeat for you...I've heard conflicting things on whether she repeats at all or only after several years of establishment?

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 11:02AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks everyone!

None of them are great repeaters here. RdR has the best with scattered blooms all season. RdV and HdB only give me a second bloom if I dead head deep in the spring. So after this flush is over I'll prune them back rather than just dead head. that usually gives me a smaller second bloom in late August.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 12:38PM
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jacqueline9CA

Plant it in at least a one gallon pot ASAP. Then put that pot in partial shade for a few days. Then put the pot somewhere where it will not get so hot that it fries the baby rose - depends on your weather, etc. I tend to put mine on top of the soil in huge pots where other things are growing, so they are not sitting on hot pavement. Be sure to protect it from deer & other critters.

I leave mine in the one gallon pot for at least 6-12 months. Perhaps you should wait until next Spring to plant yours into the garden.

Jackie

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 11:11AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I haven't tried growing any Austin in threes, but I can think of at least two which might work this way because of their smallish, compact growth: Tamora, a creamy soft apricot and The Prince with its very dark purple red blooms. I've had each for several years, and they don't seem to want to get huge, which is what I want, given their locations. They both, especially Tamora, have really lovely growth habits. No shooting canes, nothing popping out at odd angles. Diane

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 1:34AM
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SoFL Rose z10

Diane! OMG your roses are like my dream come true! I've never seen austin roses growing in my climate so I have no idea if mine will ever get like that but one can only hope wish and dream. If I wish it enough maybe it will happen!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 10:20AM
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catsrose(VA 6)

It seems to take DJ a while to get established. I'm with Ann--give it time. Do be careful of watering, tho. Clay can have drainage problems. Another thig to check is that there are no air pockets. Stick a couple of fingers in deep. The soil should be firm. Often, when bareroots get planted by nurseries, the soil is too loose. When it settles, it leaves air pockets.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 8:50AM
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gardenheat(9b)

Don't give up. Don Juan is a vigorous climber that produces an abundance of deep red roses. I grow two in full sun in Las Vegas. These plants receive sun from the a.m. Until about 4 p.m. .. It has been over 100 degrees for two weeks or more and the 90s before that. My first blooms were in early April and the bushes have not been absent roses since then. Anything that does well in this heat... Should survive moderate temperatures in other places barring winter damage....Good Luck! I hope you get to the bottom of it.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2013 at 12:02AM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I have a rose bed which has a border of at least 2 feet wide walkway, then my lawn (bermuda) the Bermuda grass can grow underneath the 2 foot walkway and invade the rose bed. I don't think stone edging will keep it out. I just edge any beds with a gas edger attachment and pull out any stray grass that gets in my beds. Usually after a rain, they are easy to pull out.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 6:14AM
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lainey2(7a)

I believe it, Buford. I was looking for an easy way out.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 11:47PM
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TNY78(7a-East TN)

Really pretty, Susan! Even with as many roses as I have, I don't have a single standard...not sure why, I love when others post picture of them :)

Tammy

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 9:36PM
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susan4952(5)

Thanks, Tammy. I am just so shocked at how well she has done! You should give them a try. I have black cherry and April in Paris in the ground in Chicago, so you could do very well in your zone. Another pic. Just Joey.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 11:42PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

After looking at the roses that Dewars are selling as 'Red Sensation', then looking at Sensation on HMF, they look like an almost perfect match. Only way to know for sure is to e-mail Dewar and ask.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 9:50PM
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Chaoticdreams(8)

Hey, thanks for the help! I really appreciate it. :)

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 11:03PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Roses are more vulnerable to PM when their foliage isn't getting enough water from their roots, which often happens on young or transplanted roses. Keep the plant well watered though not drowning and as it settles in it may be more resistant, if it is not a cultivar prone to PM. Some are. You can spray off the foliage with water every morning, provided it is sunny/warm enough to dry in a few hours, to wash off spores. You could spray with a fungicide if you are really concerned.

PM spores float through the air for miles and miles, there isn't anything you can do about that except keep your plants as strong and healthy as possible, so their natural resistance can best protect them.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 10:44AM
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seil zone 6b MI

As hoov said the PM is just out there and only needs the right conditions to show up. Often times greenhouses have those conditions so it will show up there. Transplanting a rose can stress it and make it more susceptible too. You've planted it now in a good location so chances are it will clear up on it's own.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 6:27PM
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mgleason56(Michigan 5b)

I saw this at a local nursery here and it looks great! For anyone in the Detroit area it is available at Telly's in Troy.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:15PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh, that's beautiful!

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 5:32PM
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jacqueline9CA

Can you post a picture? That would make it easier to respond. Many roses show different shades, and sometimes even different colors, depending on the weather.

Jackie

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 5:04PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Pictures will help. Do you know the name of the rose? What color is it? Is it cooler now? A lot of roses will have a deeper color in cooler weather.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 5:25PM
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archoo16

Thanks guys. I never would have thought just taking them outside would have made such a difference! They gt sun all day at their old spot , yet they were sickly. Like Seil said must be the lack of humidity.

Now I cant wait for the red gorgeous blooms. Will update a pic when they start.

    Bookmark     April 7, 2013 at 11:11PM
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sunflowersrus222(7a Pa)

I'm wondering how your roses are doing now. Been following this thread and watching for updates.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:55PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

OGRs (or any rose) can have better vase life if cut at the right time. If cut too late, then yes, they will have a short vase life. Most do best when just starting to open, sepals down, first row of petals unfurled. I have kept Marchesa Boccella for 5 days when cut at the right time (I exhibit from time to time).

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:39PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

OGRs (or any rose) can have better vase life if cut at the right time. If cut too late, then yes, they will have a short vase life. Most do best when just starting to open, sepals down, first row of petals unfurled. I have kept Marchesa Boccella for 5 days when cut at the right time (I exhibit from time to time).

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:40PM
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greentiger87

Thanks Henry. That is a little mystifying.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:18PM
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henry_kuska

greentiger87 I can send you a copy of the paper if you e-mail me your e-mail address that accepts PDF attachments.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2013 at 4:29PM
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